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SOURCE: CA Prop 8 held to be unconstitutional under due process and equal protection.
Drudge Report ^ | 8/04/2010 | Drudge

Posted on 08/04/2010 1:45:48 PM PDT by tsmith130

Court enjoins enforcement of Prop 8... Will be released at 2 pm pt...

Judge strikes down 'Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California'..


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To: jerry557

marriage is a social/cultural institution codified/regulated in law and has always stood as husband and wife and for having/raising kids.


341 posted on 08/05/2010 6:40:05 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck -)
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To: ScottinVA
The SCOTUS will slap this one down.

You are more optimistic than I am.

342 posted on 08/05/2010 6:41:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: American Constitutionalist

I’d prefer to stick to actual arguments against gay marriage, rater than delving into nutball mysticism and numerology.


343 posted on 08/05/2010 6:42:00 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: TomasUSMC

Yep!!


344 posted on 08/05/2010 7:04:24 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: kcvl
Shouldn't this judge recuse himself from this case because of a possible conflict of interest? Or is honesty no longer required to be a judge?
345 posted on 08/05/2010 7:31:04 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Second Amendment Spoken Here)
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To: tsmith130

Although this offends me as much as anyone else on the forum, I am sure this will be appealed and overturned. It had been repeatedly ruled as constitutional and then this rodent judge reverses it. Don’t get too discouraged (yet).


346 posted on 08/05/2010 8:13:10 AM PDT by Ham Hock
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To: DesertRenegade

The case was randomly assigned to him. Interesting coincidence, though.


347 posted on 08/05/2010 9:25:48 AM PDT by Kahonek
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To: Edgerunner

“Shouldn’t this judge recuse himself from this case because of a possible conflict of interest? Or is honesty no longer required to be a judge?”

Would you expect all gun owners to recuse themselves on 2nd Amendment cases? Scary precedent you’re pushing there, I think.


348 posted on 08/05/2010 9:37:23 AM PDT by Kahonek
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To: Mad Dawgg
Yes but you are treating Society and Government as one in the same. You are guilty of the same sin as the leftist you wish to Social Engineer via government goodies. Both you and the leftists are wrong to do so.

No I am not even suggesting this. I would compare society to the free market economy -with government but an observer. Just as the free market determines economic value so does society determine moral value. The homosexual disorder and those that purse and promote it has never been highly valued and or given preference or privilege by society. The government in the interest of promoting the common good in addition to not involving itself in manipulating society the way it sees fit should accept this -just as it accepts that society chose VHS over beta and SUV cars over compact cars...

349 posted on 08/05/2010 10:38:38 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers
"Just as the free market determines economic value so does society determine moral value. The homosexual disorder and those that purse and promote it has never been highly valued and or given preference or privilege by society. The government in the interest of promoting the common good in addition to not involving itself in manipulating society the way it sees fit should accept this -just as it accepts that society chose VHS over beta and SUV cars over compact cars..."

But once the government chooses a side as in the case of marriage (monetary goodies for being a man and a woman who marry) it opens up the equal protection clause. As far as I am concerned morally you are right but Legally the Constitution sez you are wrong. This is why the Government should not be involved in promoting marriage of any type. It should provide the same legal coverage as any contract between two or more people and allow for safe dispensation of underage children as regards to custody.

But I fear we can never undo the damage done by what was probably an honest attempt to help American Families. As I've said before this should be a lesson to us all on the law of unintended consequences stemming from Government meddling where it shouldn't.

350 posted on 08/05/2010 10:51:51 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
I tend to agree with you about government involvement -less is best.

There are areas where government is tasked by the people with enforcing laws premised upon protecting unalienable rights endowed by the Creator. With unalienable rights there come necessarily unalienable definitions of terms -necessarily as well, defined by the Creator. What I suggest we see here is a government redefining the unalienable term "marriage" as a method for promoting and protecting the innovation. In my opinion, government is overstepping and taking the role of God in this pursuit...

In essence the unalienable redefined becomes alienable -with this we see government moving toward tyrant...

351 posted on 08/05/2010 11:13:11 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Jim Noble

Great bullet for the GOP Campaign in Nov. But then we had great ones last time around too. I guess the bullets depend on the shooter don’t they.

Good info thanks


352 posted on 08/05/2010 11:41:22 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: txrangerette

Yes, I’m aware of the history of gay marriage in California. Judge Napolitano on Fox made the statement about California having previously granted the right to gay marriage.


353 posted on 08/05/2010 12:38:49 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: tsmith130

The people mean nothing to these tyrants.


354 posted on 08/05/2010 12:39:04 PM PDT by Force of Truth (Yes political conservatives are libertarians. They want to have their rights and eat them too.)
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To: dfwgator
So polygamy is a go as well? Probably. Consenting adults and all ... Then bestiality following close behind.

The homos rode in on the backs of the black slaves to get their fetish classified as a civil right. The blacks said nothing. The polygamists and bestial will ride in on the backs of homos, and the homos won't be able to argue against it.

355 posted on 08/05/2010 1:19:02 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: mquinn
" I’d prefer to stick to actual arguments against gay marriage, rater than delving into nutball mysticism and numerology. "

Come on now, lighten up.... I didn't figure that out myself, I saw it on a you tube video.
356 posted on 08/05/2010 1:48:46 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USAis no civility in)
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To: tsmith130

"There's hope for us yet Honey ..."

[Pic from "Everything You Wanted To Know About Sex" - Woody Allen movie]

357 posted on 08/05/2010 2:35:01 PM PDT by Lmo56 (</i><p>)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"That's because liberals believe that our laws exist to protect minorities from the majority."

Some do. Take the 1st Ammendment. A majority could vote representatives into Congress that may makes laws to limit free speech. The 1st Ammendment exists precisely to protect the minority from the majority. That's the point.

Having said that, I agree that there is no right to gay marriage and that this ruling is incorrect. Let's just not forget that the majority doesn't, and shouldn't, always get its way.

358 posted on 08/05/2010 10:46:05 PM PDT by mlo
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To: tsmith130

ANOTHER gay “Judge” with AIDS dementia!


359 posted on 08/06/2010 5:52:14 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Puppage

If the judge’s order is ruled correct, than yes, every state must allow gay marriage under the equal protection clause.

It won’t matter what the constitution says.


360 posted on 08/07/2010 8:26:39 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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