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What's In a Name? (Vanity)
Vanity | 8/17/10 | Friend

Posted on 08/18/2010 1:18:24 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui

Satan was known to the ancient Hebrews as "Lightening from Heaven" which later evolved into "Lucifer" or "Light Bearer". Lightening (falling from) Heavens"!? In the New Testament Jesus said it in Luke- I beheld Satan as lightening from heaven, or falling from heaven.

How do those words sound in Hebrew?

> From Strong's Hebrew Dictionary, word number 1299 a primitive root word: lightening, cast forth, falling

BARAQ pronounced BAW-RAWK

And word number 1300, BARAQ, means lightening.

Satan has fallen from the heights or Heavens. The Hebrew word used for heights or heavens is Strong's Hebrew Word 1116. BAM MAH. to be high, heights, heavens.

It is pronounced: BAM-MAW.

The Hebrew U or O, is a conjunction to join words together. So to join in Hebrew the concept of lightening "falling from" heaven or the heights, BARAQ O BAM MAH would mean Lightening from Heaven.

So, if spoken by a Jew back then, "I beheld Satan" would have been- "Baraq O Bammah".


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1 posted on 08/18/2010 1:18:24 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

True?


2 posted on 08/18/2010 1:21:06 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
Nah...it's just a coincidence. {;^)
3 posted on 08/18/2010 1:21:44 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

I have gotten this in email form a few times but assumed it was a fabrication. Is there any truth to this? If so, quite compelling.


4 posted on 08/18/2010 1:25:22 PM PDT by camerongood210
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To: To Hell With Poverty

Bump for later. Wigging me out.


5 posted on 08/18/2010 1:26:51 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (The War on Poverty is over. Poverty won. - Howie Carr)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
What's in a name indeed!
yollopoliuhqui: loco, demente
You're crazy!
6 posted on 08/18/2010 1:29:42 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: This I Wonder32460

I just downloaded Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary as a pdf and sure enough it’s there.


7 posted on 08/18/2010 1:35:03 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (The War on Poverty is over. Poverty won. - Howie Carr)
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To: camerongood210
Is there any truth to this?
Strong's Concordance
1299...baraq baw-rak' a primitive root; to lighten (lightning):--cast forth.
1116... bamah bam-maw' from an unused root (meaning to be high); an elevation:--height, high place, wave.
8 posted on 08/18/2010 1:35:10 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

I was able to use an online ancient Hebrew translator, and indeed, baraq is lightening. There was no results for bammah or o. Could all be true.


9 posted on 08/18/2010 1:36:08 PM PDT by paintriot
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Is the word you use “lightening” misspelled?
Do you mean to use the word “lightning”.
The “e” makes a big difference...


10 posted on 08/18/2010 1:36:43 PM PDT by etcetera ("Jihad Is Compulsory." Mohammed)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Verse 6 contains “baraq” or lightning:

Psalm 144:1-11 (King James Version)

1 Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:

2 My goodness, and my fortress; my high tower, and my deliverer ; my shield, and he in whom I trust ; who subdueth my people under me.

3 LORD, what is man, that thou takest knowledge of him! or the son of man, that thou makest account of him!

4 Man is like to vanity: his days are as a shadow that passeth away .

5 Bow thy heavens, O LORD, and come down : touch the mountains, and they shall smoke .

6 Cast forth lightning, and scatter them: shoot out thine arrows, and destroy them.

7 Send thine hand from above; rid me, and deliver me out of great waters, from the hand of strange children;

8 Whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood.

9 I will sing a new song unto thee, O God: upon a psaltery and an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto thee.

10 It is he that giveth salvation unto kings: who delivereth David his servant from the hurtful sword.

11 Rid me, and deliver me from the hand of strange children, whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood:

Verse 29 has bammah

Ezekiel 20:24-34

24 Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers’ idols.

25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live ;

26 And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate , to the end that they might know that I am the LORD.

27 Therefore, son of man, speak unto the house of Israel, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Yet in this your fathers have blasphemed me, in that they have committed a trespass against me.

28 For when I had brought them into the land, for the which I lifted up mine hand to give it to them, then they saw every high hill, and all the thick trees, and they offered there their sacrifices, and there they presented the provocation of their offering: there also they made their sweet savour, and poured out there their drink offerings.

29 Then I said unto them, What is the high place whereunto ye go ? And the name thereof is called Bamah unto this day.
30 Wherefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Are ye polluted after the manner of your fathers? and commit ye whoredom after their abominations?

31 For when ye offer your gifts, when ye make your sons to pass through the fire, ye pollute yourselves with all your idols, even unto this day: and shall I be enquired of by you, O house of Israel? As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will not be enquired of by you.

32 And that which cometh into your mind shall not be at all, that ye say , We will be as the heathen, as the families of the countries, to serve wood and stone.

33 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out , will I rule over you:

34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered , with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out .


11 posted on 08/18/2010 1:38:13 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: paintriot

oops. lightning.


12 posted on 08/18/2010 1:38:47 PM PDT by paintriot
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Perhaps there is no birth certificate?


13 posted on 08/18/2010 1:40:45 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: etcetera
1300 baraq baw-rawk' from 1299; lightning; by analogy, a gleam; concretely, a flashing sword:--bright, glitter(-ing sword), lightning.
See reply 8.
14 posted on 08/18/2010 1:40:51 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Now you tell me!


15 posted on 08/18/2010 1:41:13 PM PDT by DCmarcher-976453 (SARAH PALIN 2012)
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To: Quix

Ping to quix...and I know this has been ‘around’ the FR ‘block’ before, but it never ceases to amaze (mey how the pieces come together.


16 posted on 08/18/2010 1:53:59 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( (((((((((((((((((((PALIN/BACHMANN 2012))))))))))))))))))))
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To: To Hell With Poverty
It must be black magic.

You know, like they found some guy whose astrological signs were all in the right places so they groomed him from childhood to think and be certain things and then to make sure he'd be the perfect vessel for their most powerful demon, they named him that in a secret ceremony in some Egyptian crypt . . .

OMG . . . just creeped myself out . . .

17 posted on 08/18/2010 2:01:17 PM PDT by tisket (If someone yells "You Lie" in a room full of politicians, how do they know who he's talking to?)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

>>So, if spoken by a Jew back then, “I beheld Satan” would have been- “Baraq O Bammah”.

No - “lightning from heaven.” As in, “I beheld Satan as baraq o bammah.”


18 posted on 08/18/2010 2:06:10 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: philman_36

It would seem then that Baraq Obama means someone with a light complexion who likes to get high.


19 posted on 08/18/2010 2:41:18 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Interesting, alright . . . . to a point.

Certainly sobering.


20 posted on 08/18/2010 3:21:45 PM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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