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From Burning Heretics to Burning Books
Family Security Matters ^ | September 8, 2010 | The Editor

Posted on 09/08/2010 4:10:58 AM PDT by captjanaway

Currently, the airwaves around the world are reverberating to the news of the proposed actions of a few angry evangelical Christians. The congregation of the Dove World Outreach Center, led by Pastor Terry Jones, intends to incinerate a few thousand Korans on Saturday, the anniversary of 9/11. The small church in Gainesville Florida has no more than 50 members.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bloomberg; koran; terryjones
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Michael Bloomberg, surprisingly, makes much sense in this article....
1 posted on 09/08/2010 4:11:00 AM PDT by captjanaway
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To: captjanaway

Gainesville Florida has no more than 50 members.

... so, who exactly is making the big deal out of it?


2 posted on 09/08/2010 4:14:13 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: SF_Redux

The MSM, to divert attention from the continued failures of “The One”.


3 posted on 09/08/2010 4:16:13 AM PDT by Pecos (Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: captjanaway

Bloomberg is still an idiot extraordinaire!


4 posted on 09/08/2010 4:18:08 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: SF_Redux

As compared to the 50,000+ burning bibles and American flags in universities around the country.

Leftists only get shocked when Islam is defiled because they share their love of oppression, genocide, and other assorted acts of cruelty towards the innocent.


5 posted on 09/08/2010 4:18:08 AM PDT by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: captjanaway
Whether one agrees with mosques at ground zero or not, or whether one thinks burning Korans is distasteful or not, both issues involve freedom of expression, and freedom of worship. And here, to his credit, Michael Bloomberg is being morally straightforward and uncontrived.

I think burning the korans is pointless, but I'm wary of what Bloomberg is saying here. He's nothing if not political, and his position here is merely a way of saying "Burning korans is protected speech, just like building the mosque is a protected action" or whatever.

He is attempting to conflate two completely different ideas that seem closely related to the inattentive.

I'm not falling for his trap.

6 posted on 09/08/2010 4:18:20 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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Bloomberg is definately a political hack - however the point he makes is a good one.
When Bibles are burned - or even our own flag - for that matter, it is freedom of speech.
But burn a Koran....... NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 09/08/2010 4:27:25 AM PDT by captjanaway
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To: captjanaway

Bloomberg has a stake in islam (Dubai), in sharia, and in sharia banking (read: terror finance). Of course the swine is making all the right noises.


8 posted on 09/08/2010 4:29:20 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: captjanaway

What an ignoramus Bloomberg is.

First, there is no moral equivalence between burning a “heretic”, who is a living, breathing human being made in the image and likeness of God, and a silly book, especially when the book is nothing but a hate-filled screed taken from the rantings and droolings of a pirate, pedophile, rapist, murderer, torturer, extortionist, racist slave trader LIAR pretending to be a “prophet”.

Second, there is no moral equivalence between the senseless and horrific murder of 3000 people on 9-11-2001 at the hands of the Pedophile Pirate’s proselytes and the burning of the abovementioned hate-filled screed taken from the rantings and droolings of the abovementioned Pedophile Pirate.

To make *ANY* moral equivalence between the violent, murderous acts of the Mohammedans and the burning of their silly book is not only preposterous, it is SHAMEFUL and plays right into the hands of our ENEMIES, who want to see us hand-wringing and bed-wetting over every possibility of bruising their sensitive egos.

The murderous Mohammedan hordes need to be spanked often and hard, not pampered and fretted over.


9 posted on 09/08/2010 4:29:48 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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“However, the hysteria on the part of the establishment in reaction to this upcoming event shows how much they apparently fear the volatility of Islamic extremists. “

This is the most telling point in the article.

Nobody really supports burning a book, even a Koran. But when doing that helps expose extremism throughout the globe, I think it’s a worthwhile thing to do.

This two-bit preacher is about to make a farce of 9 years of government policy. I like that.

If Iraq and Afghanistan erupt in violence as a result, just what have we accomplished there?

This “nobody” preacher is laying bare the carefully woven propaganda of a “religion of peace” from the Bush administration, and the overt Islamophiles in the present administration and media.

If Iraq and Afghanistan are so primitive that they can’t see that if they want to advance past the 3rd world, that you have to let people exercise freedoms that may offend others at times, then that will expose them as the unworthy recipients of US largess - and that they are unworthy of any future efforts.

I hope the preacher follows through. It will recalibrate a lot of attitudes if there is the reaction that our entire government and world media claims there will be.


10 posted on 09/08/2010 4:30:37 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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Where is the administration out there defending this pastor’s “First Amendment Rights”? What a joke they are. Besides, when does the first amendment allow your country’s enemy to build a headquarters (mosque) for planning, recruiting and carrying out the destruction of your country under the guise of “Freedom of Religion”? As for Bloomberg, I wish he respected the second amendment as much as he appears to respect the first..


11 posted on 09/08/2010 4:31:33 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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"...50 members.  ... so, who exactly is making the big deal..."

People who love to hate are making a big deal.   OK, burning books is hateful too so these morons are a real easy target, but America's got over 300 million good decent people who won't be blazing big book burning bonfires 9/11.

12 posted on 09/08/2010 4:34:25 AM PDT by expat_panama
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” America’s got over 300 million good decent people who won’t be blazing big book burning bonfires 9/11.”

and that is a shame, because the muslims intend to destroy all that those 300 MILLION hold dear


13 posted on 09/08/2010 4:38:27 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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Like it or not folks, in the eyes of the law, ever since the USSC ruled in favor of flag burning that it is free speech, this pastor has the backing of the law. But one has to ask the legal question, is it moral?


14 posted on 09/08/2010 4:40:58 AM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!! :)=^..^=)
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To: RFEngineer

Well said. The pastor is being asked not to burn the Quran because it may provoke a violent backlash. Is that not the same way Sharia law works? Obey the tenets Islam or there will be violence.


15 posted on 09/08/2010 4:44:31 AM PDT by abishai
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To: captjanaway

The next time a savage uncivilized brute subhuman kills a Christian who is stupid enough to stay in a savage hell hole country, the media will blame the murder on the book burning, not on the savage, uncivilized brute subhuman who did the killing.


16 posted on 09/08/2010 4:56:20 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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No matter what we do or don’t do, the islamist get upset... so burn baby burn. After all, if we’ve fallen to the point where it’s legally ok to burn the American flag, and we’re all supposed to tolerate it... well, then tolerate this.


17 posted on 09/08/2010 5:03:16 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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I think the church in Florida is making a mistake in burning the Quran...not because it doesn’t have the right to do so here in currently-not-sharia America, but simply because it is not accomplishing much other than negative publicity for them.

But I find it amazing the degree to which government officials at every level will go to keep a Muslim happy. Were this a group of atheists burning Bibles, there would be no outcry from the MSM and not a peep from Hillary or Gibbs or anyone else.

The hypocrisy is rank.

We live in a land where every effort is made to denigrate Christ and His church, and every effort expended (by the ruling elite) to defend Islam.


18 posted on 09/08/2010 5:09:34 AM PDT by comps4spice (Obama is a clear and present danger.)
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Yes, Bloomberg is right on this one. And, how could any freedom loving citizen oppose the following quote from the article?

...”Pastor Terry Jones is preparing to do something that is perhaps unwise, and is certainly going to offend many Muslims, including the vast majority of Muslims who try to live their lives as good citizens. But Pastor Jones is resolute, and his bravery can be respected. Now the media has become involved, he could become a target. Burning Korans, or burning any book, is genuinely distasteful. But if Muslims have the freedom to worship in their mosques in America, and are supported in this by the administration, then Christians who choose to burn books must also be allowed to carry out their freedom of expression. No laws are broken, and no-one is physically hurt”...

It is Christians who feel oppressed in their own society..They do not need to “walk on eggs” to appease other religions when no one is getting hurt. Call this book burning a form of art for it expresses a kind of frustration and may actually diminishes a bent toward real violence. It illustrates a widespread sentiment which has not been properly vented and treated fairly through media so it should be viewed as a “safety valve.” Those who are trying to gag this minister and his people are wrong. The flag burning during the Vietnam war is a good example of this same kind of expression which was handled quite differently when the left was demonstrating frustration. Clearly, a double standard with political correctness running amok among our leaders. Does all the testosterone exist on the other side of the world? Have we been at peace in the US for so long that males have forgotten how to protect us and run to hide at the slightest sign of anything which might bring on a strong debate? Please, men, step up to the plate and use your energies against our true enemies and leave Pastor Jones alone.


19 posted on 09/08/2010 5:15:49 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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When a Christian is allowed to own a Bible in Saudi Arabia, I might give a rats ass about someone burning korans.

On second thought, no I wouldn't.

20 posted on 09/08/2010 5:16:35 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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