Posted on 09/13/2010 8:40:02 PM PDT by Kabud
This is the original news report from SPRINGFIELD, Effingham County in Georgia, next to the entrance of I-95 to Florida.
Effingham deputies call feds after arresting Russians with shovel, wire cutters outside Georgia Power plant
by Evgeniy Luzhetskiy
SPRINGFIELD — Effingham County sheriff deputies have reported the early Sunday morning arrest of three men to the federal Joint Terrorism Task Force.
The men, two from Russia and one from Kazakhstan, were found near Georgia Power’s Plant McIntosh on Old Augusta Road about 1 a.m. Sunday after a ranger with the Department of Natural Resources reported a suspicious vehicle, Effingham County sheriff’s spokesman David Ehsanipoor said.
Deputies reported the men, who were inside a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, had a machete, shovel, wire cutters and ski masks. One man also had black silk stockings in his front left pocket.
Arrested were Evgeniy Luzhetskiy, of Kazakhastan Nail Idiatullin and Rustem Ibragimov of Russia. All three reported they lived in Charleston, S.C., deputies reported.
The men were all charged with possession of tools during the commission of a crime.
The three were released after being interviewed by task force members, Ehsanipoor said.
"They did all have visas that allowed them to be here and are supposed to be leaving the country soon."
This is the letter to the editor of savannahnow.com :
To the editor:
I take my liberty to copy the postings that SavannaNow deleted:
By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:47 pm these people are not amish also there are not jews Their ethnic background is one Russian, possibly Christian, and two others Russian Caucasians, possibly Muslims; however this background stuff does not matter, because their true religion is Communism and ethnically there are Marxists - these people don't have motherland, but there are willing to possess the whole Earth. And America is the only country which is an obstacle on their way; so tehre are ready for everything to ruin it.
By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:40 pm You just caught three very dangerous Russian diversants and you are going to let them go?! Do you know what will happen next? Let me explain you. Their bosses back in Moscow will see that it is totally OK to send their agents to the US to set up various attacks against Americans. In case if these agents are caught, there is no punishment for them and in the worst case these agents will be sent back home, as it was done a couple of months ago to the guys from a spy ring, and as it is going to be done now. It means, that in the future you will have to expect tens of thousands of Russians who will be setting up various diversions on you sensitive objects, and even if catch some of them, others will do the job! If you want my advise what to do with these guys - here it is: put them to jail for at least 10 years. Next time they should be scared to go to America with bad intentions. Yet, BTW, Russians will respect you more.
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By Kabud | 09/12/10 - 04:43 am
Setting up one of these devices is complicated. The bombs need a small amount of power to keep them safely in storage. For example, the GRU specialist might have to run a very small wire to an electrical source, such as a power wire, and then attach it to the weapon. The wires can be run as far as one hundred yards or more from the weapon. The wires are small enough that they would easily break if someone tampered with them or tried to follow them to their source. In case there is a loss of power, there is a battery
Nuclear devices can also be slipped across the Mexican or Canadian borders. It is easy to get a bomb to Cuba and from there transport it to Mexico. Usually the devices are carried by a Russian intelligence officer or a trusted agent. If a Russian intelligence officer was for some reason not involved, the human missile transporting the device would be killed after safely handing it over to a GRU specialist. This is a simple security precaution.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30259323/Why-Russia-is-More-Dangerous-Than-Eve...
2. Spetsnaz fighting shovel.
http://militaryanalysis.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html
The common Soviet/Russian entrenching tool. Sharp on three sides, a single monolithic object, unlike the current American entrenching tool. Used by Spetsnaz soldiers as a fighting weapon, silent, and in the right hands, downright deadly.
"In a combat training of Spetsnaz soldiers a great attention is paid to their ability to engage in hand-to-hand combat and to use hand-held weapon . . . an entrenching shovel is of special importance . . . it is a formidable weapon of the close combat."
"the entrenching shovel is an excellent throwing implement - the range of aimed throw made by a well-trained specialist is 10 meters or more."
A weapon used as a hand-to-hand fighting tool, and, WHEN USED IN THE RIGHT HANDS, A THROWING WEAPON ALSO!
Again - - from Suvorov:
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/09.html
"In the hands of a spetsnaz soldier the spade is a terrible noiseless weapon . . . The little spade can be used in hand-to-hand fighting against blows from a bayonet, a knife, a fist or another spade . . . Finally a soldier is taught to throw the spade as accurately as he would use a sword or a battle axe . . . As it spins in flight [the spade has] accuracy and thrust. It becomes a terrifying weapon. If it lands in a tree it is not so easy to pull out again."
Here, thanks to the Russian web site: "Entrenching Shovel in Close Combat. Version of Spetsnaz GRU. Basic Fighting Technique." you can see video clips of Alexander Popov [???], demonstrating the fighting shovel combat technique.
You see a lot of twirls, pirouettes, jumps, etc. Ballet-like in form??!! This is characteristic of Russian style martial arts? Russian All-round Fighting [RAF] DOES emphasize Russian folk dance as a basis for many martial arts "moves"!? An indigenously developed Russian close-quarters-combat fighting form that is very effective!?
I would ask the question too, HOW OFTEN WOULD SUCH WEAPONS BE EMPLOYED?
Martial arts as taught to special operations units the world over are obviously useful, to say the least, but how often used? I would think very rarely, if at all?
Such martial arts techniques are more than anything else an excellent way of developing physical fitness, building confidence, instilling aggressiveness, AND OF COURSE - - PERHAPS KILLING AN AMERICAN SENTRY - - NOISELESSLY - - WITH A KNIFE OR A SHOVEL!!
An even more frightful weapon is a spade in the hands of a skilled fighter. It was with the Soviet Army spade that we began this book. Ways of using it are one of the dramatic elements of sambo. A spetsnaz soldier can kill people with a spade at a distance of several metres as easily, freely and silently as with a P-6 gun.
Lunev asserted that some of the hidden caches could contain portable tactical nuclear weapons known as RA-115 "suitcase bombs". Such bombs have been prepared to assassinate US leaders in the event of war, according to him [1] Lunev states that he had personally looked for hiding places for weapons caches in the Shenandoah Valley area[1] and that "it is surprisingly easy to smuggle nuclear weapons into the US, either across the Mexican border or using a small transport missile that can slip undetected when launched from a Russian airplane [1]
God Bless USA
From Kabud | 09/12/10 - 01:37 pm http://losangeles.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel10/la051810.htm The FBI is coordinating a training exercise among multiple government and law enforcement organizations at the national and local level, to exercise response capabilities relative to a terrorist attack involving an improvised nuclear device. The exercise will take place Monday, May 17th through Wednesday, May 19th.
But mind that there is no such thing as `homemade nuke`. ON the other hand a suitecase device is a real one. So it is all just double speak.
From New York Times article published on 04/16/2010
Intelligence officials feared that bomb parts might be delivered in diplomatic mail pouches, carried by international air travelers in their luggage or delivered by boat or submarine to an isolated beach.
Communist agents already in the country might then assemble, plant and detonate the weapons. “Surveillance of all Communist Party members and sympathizers is impossible and impractical since numerically they exceed by many times the total Special Agent force of the F.B.I.,” a bureau memo complained. J. Edgar Hoover, the F.B.I. director, who was intensely focused on the smuggling threat, proposed increasing manpower to cope.
Among many potential nuclear saboteurs, F.B.I. field offices identified the proprietor of a left-wing bookstore in Seattle, a reporter for the Soviet news agency Tass and even a representative of the American Council for a Democratic Greece.
When the Polish consul to Detroit arrived in the United States in the mid-1950s with four big boxes, F.B.I. agents surreptitiously searched them for nuclear material. They found 24 bottles of cherry cordial but “no article or part thereof that could be construed as a portion of a weapon of mass destruction,” their secret report solemnly declared.
Security officials later speculated about whether China might set off a smuggled nuke in the United States and make it look like a Soviet attack, provoking devastating war between its rivals. Later, as portable tactical nuclear weapons proliferated in both Eastern and Western Europe, there were periodic alarms about their security.
In the 1950s the United States knew its adversaries had weapons; the mystery was whether they might use them. Today, said Jeffrey T. Richelson, a historian of nuclear weapons, the situation is reversed: Qaeda leaders have suggested publicly that they would use a nuclear weapon, “but as far as we know, Al Qaeda hasn’t even come close to building a bomb.”
(Excerpt) Read more at http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/16/world/16memo.html
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According to the posts in the reference article, All 3 men arrested at the power plant were most likely Muslims:
Nail Idiatullin, one of the Russians has a variation of a turk name Idia-tallah, “a cognate form of Allah in Russian.”
Rustem Ibragimov, another Russian, whose first name is ‘a Russian cognate of the Muslim name Rustam or “Brave Fighter”. His last name, Ibragimov, is a Russified form of the Muslim “descended from Ibrihim”’
Evgeniy Luzhetskiy, from Kazahkastan where 65% of the population is Muslim.
Ruski admitted after Luinev testimony that they in fact did smuggle nukes in the past : i know it for a fact.
general Lebed also testified much to that effect
so...
you fantasize about muslims: NOT TRUE
how do you determine religion affiliation and from WHAT?
homo soveticus are atheists.
Nail Idiatullin, Rustem Ibragimov - names sounds central asian but are most likely FAKE
to MAKE YOU THINK ABOUT AL QUEDA
this is KREMLIN ALIBI!!!!!!!!!
Evgeniy Luzhetskiy - 100% slavic
Heh heh!
Always interesting when that happens!
A compelling conspiracy, but I’m curious why the Russians would have interest in causing such a disaster. No doubt US Intelligence would determine any culpability, and they’d be held accountable.
Only to tease the conspiracy angle, what impact would this alleged incident have on the November elections if it were executed to completion?
IMO this was a test run,,,
Most likely ragheads,,,
I guess we’ll find out the hard way...
:(
how many OTHER runs we never detect
how many OTHER runs we never learn about
hom many other spies we never catch
..
Obama is The commander in Chief. I try to not comment regarding him. No matter what -
he was elected and bares The legitimacy of The Vote.
Wise decision in these uncertain days, to be sure.
But the post about releasing Russian spies and how it emboldens the Russian government to send more spies or agents of espionage really hits home.
Anyone who is an enemy of the United States had to realize that we are totally vulnerable and open to attack at any time, almost without consequences.
These guys were lost is all, they were supposed to be sabotaging a power plant in Georgia the country.
The southern border is wide open for the most part,,,
Pick a number,,,
Even got Mexican(Mi-17 Russian) choppers on this side
of the border,,,
I think that area will be a full blown war soon...
Thank you for the ping Future Useless Eater.
Thank you for the ping Captain Beyond.
Thank you for the ping Gene Eric.
http://rt.com/prime-time/2010-07-12/moscow-bomb-shelters-outskirts.html
Moscow arms against nuclear attack
Published 12 July, 2010, 21:42
Nearly 5,000 new emergency bomb shelters will be built in Moscow by 2012 to save people in case of potential attacks.
Moscow authorities say the measure is urgent as the shelters currently available in the city can house no more that half of its population.
(I have been wondering if this could be true, do you know? Thanks!)
At one time gold was confiscated and no one did anything about it. Very passive, we Americans. Between the Chinese 1000 years plan to rule the world and the Muslin plan to eventually convert every world citizen to their faith or kill’em and Iran going nuclear and Russia holding natural resources for ransom, it is all going to get very interest around here esp. when the banking system collapses.
Now, that is not true. They do not have '100s of thousands of tons of biological' weapons. The ironic thing is that there is no need to exaggerate what they have. Russia has the most advanced bio-weapons program in the globe (and probably the largest ...although there is no telling what nations like North Korea, Pakistan, Israel, Libya, Iran, and in particular, China, have ....but definitely the Russian program is the most advanced). Unlike other types of weapons, one does not need '100s of thousands of tons' when it comes to advanced bio-weaponry. One just needs enough for a specific number of warheads. These are not the 50s where Anthrax was the big boogieman wiggling in the attic! Some of the babies that have been churned up in vats are true Gehenna-causing-scenarios. As the character in Training Day (Denzel Washington's character) would say, they are 'walking Apocalypses.'
A recombinant virus, say the work that Alibek claimed was been done on Ebola and Marburg virii, which are a nasty set of hemmorhagic fevers that, in essence, turn you into an oozing sack of bio-matter where you bleed from every orifice, would do havoc if it struck a major city. With global transport being how it is (I am in Nairobi Kenya now ....I can eat dinner in New York TODAY) the spread-effects would be huge.
Then there is the dread granddaddy of all ...Smallpox, in particular the weaponized blackpox variants Vektor in Russia was working on. Considering the last time mass immunizations were done was 30 years ago (and that immunity is either negated, or at least degraded), then even normal smallpox would be bad. Weaponized 'enhanced' is a killer scenario.
Unlike nuclear weapons (and chemical weapons), biological weaponry is a true monster. It cannot be controlled. It can spread FAR beyond the target locus (please google and read 'Demon in the Freezer ....it is about how hard it was to eradicate smallpox, as well as the weaponized versions of it. If you cannot find it I will send it to you once I get home). A nuclear weapon, even a 'dirty' cobalt bomb with enhanced radioactive fallout, and even with strong prevalent winds, does not have the potential spread radius of a simple teaspoon of virulent smallpox released in a commercial hub (e.g. Tokyo, Dallas, Cairo, Cape Town ...a release in Nairobi would be affecting the States, Western Europe, and Asia in 30 hours. A release in Tokyo even faster ....you do know most flu virii start in China and spread globally).
Anyways, Russia has a formidable bio-weapons program. But it is not 100,000s of tons.
Furthermore, if the US re-started its biological program, that would be the most stupid act in decades! You do not harbor such a monster on native soil. Furthermore, the nuclear weapons the US has are more than sufficient to handle any Russian threat (although, Russia will be an ally to the US in the near future. The main foe nations for the US are China and Pakistan. Not even Iran ...China and Pakistan. Any nuke that goes off in the US will be Pakistani in origin, not Russian. It will be smuggled in, not shot via ICBM. Pakistani, not Ruskie). If more is needed, then more nuclear warheads can be brought to bear. However ...restarting the bio-weapons program. Pure anathema! If chemical weapons are a capable imp, and nuclear weapons a powerful genie, then bio weapons are a powerful but insanely rabid genie with its nads on fire! You do not want a bio-weapons facility that is working on recombinant virii or the like (e.g. the Ebola/Marburg work, work on superflu super-combinants, or ofcourse Mr Dreadgrandaddy Smallpox) in the same CONTINENT that you are in. And even then, with modern travel, you'd better be isolated in the Gobi or kalahari deserts!
I wish I was exaggerating.
please see my response (159) to Kabud on the US having bio weapons. Thanks
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