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2 Rutgers Freshmen Charged Making Sex Tape Of Student (The young man killed himself)
PIX Channel 11 NJ ^ | 9-29-2010 | ARTHUR CHI'EN and SHELLEY NG

Posted on 09/29/2010 11:19:14 AM PDT by Frantzie

NEW JERSEY (WPIX) — A freshman at Rutgers University is believed to have committed suicide after he was secretly taped by two other students during a sexual encounter, police said. The video was allegedly broadcast on the internet.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: bullying; consequences; crime; homosexualagenda; invasionofprivacy; privacyrights; richpunks; rutger; rutgerscriminals; selfdestruction; sexualharassment; suicide; video; wiretapping
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To: fml
Look at this thread again. How many are appalled by the immorality in colleges? Very few. This is supposed to be a socially and fiscally conservative site. There are some who are having fits because it was pointed out that the deceased young man had engaged in immoral homosexual behavior. Without that act, the 2 loons had nothing to hurt him with. And yet there are those who are attempting to play down the young man's own actions and attacking anyone who points them out.

This whole episode is a horrible tragedy. All 3 were immoral. But it is very unpopular to point that out. It is also unpopular to point out that FR backs social morals. I don't understand why as it is a cornerstone of conservatism.

401 posted on 09/29/2010 7:39:29 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: patton

Yes indeed, I have read about bundling. They were fully clothed, had a board between them, and adults were generally in the room.

They were also engaged to be married.

If you think throughout history illicit sex was perfectly acceptable and as common as now, you are fooling yourself or trying to fool others.


402 posted on 09/29/2010 7:40:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: fml

You are correct but taking all the railings off certainly results in more straying who might not have.

Some kids are fine with the railings off, mine were. I was naive, anxious about being in college, worried about whether I would get a date, just young. I needed every protection there was and am glad I got it.


403 posted on 09/29/2010 7:40:40 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: DJ MacWoW
Posters have learned that the owner won't stand for it so instead of openly pushing the agenda, they attack the messenger. Eventually they will openly support it. They can get banned. I won't warn anyone again. I'll just sit and watch the fun. How's that? Ok?

Can you think about something for just a moment for me, please? Do you honestly think your behavior on this thread would attract non-Christians to Christianity? I don't believe it would and I'm hoping you'll examine your actions in that light...

404 posted on 09/29/2010 7:41:34 PM PDT by Tamzee (OBAMA ---- ALL SHAM, NO WOW)
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To: cajungirl

My grandmother lived in a DoD dorm as you describe - grandpa used to walk about twelve miles each way to see her.

Note that I exist.

The dorm rules meant nothing.


405 posted on 09/29/2010 7:41:50 PM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: fml

And the more adults turn a blind eye or even promote illicit sex, the more kids will do it. Especially kids that grow up in houses with no married mom and dad.


406 posted on 09/29/2010 7:41:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: cajungirl

Excellent comments, cajungirl!

Tell it!


407 posted on 09/29/2010 7:43:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: patton

Would it be disturbing to discover that someone else’s child wasn’t having sex? Would it make you doubt your smart ass assumption that we should all “get over it” and just let them be free?

You see your “get over it” implies that we as adults have a problem. We don’t. Most of us are established, living decent lives, working, planning and enjoying life.

The people who are suffering here are the very kids you so easily dismiss as having sex. They often don’t get over it. They suffer a lifetime for their actions and the inaction of the adults around them. I saw them in a university, I saw first hand the misery the sexual revolution has given to children. With the enabling of the adults who are having vicarious thrills and telling the grownups we should just “get over it”.


408 posted on 09/29/2010 7:45:03 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Tamzee

If people will be attracted to religion that says “If it feels good, do it”, there are plenty of fake churches and synagogues for them.

On this thread, no one has expressed happiness in what happened. No one has said “Yay” the poor guy died.

Are you saying that to point out that homosexual behavior is wrong will turn people away from God? Because it says that in every religion in the world.


409 posted on 09/29/2010 7:45:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: patton

I know your grannie must be proud that you outed her as a woman who got pregnant before marriage. Was that your intention?

Back in the day, not so long ago, she would have married your grandfather, had a big big baby for a seven monther and we all would have said “oh what a large premie”.

But you come along and throw grannie under the bus for your argument. Shame on you.


410 posted on 09/29/2010 7:47:51 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: little jeremiah

Really, Caligula? Going to make your horse, Incitatus, a Senator?

Everything you know is wrong.


411 posted on 09/29/2010 7:47:51 PM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: Tamzee
Can you think about something for just a moment for me, please? Do you honestly think your behavior on this thread would attract non-Christians to Christianity? I don't believe it would and I'm hoping you'll examine your actions in that light...

Do you think that ignoring immorality is real love? It is not. Immorality kills people. Their souls and their bodies. This story is proof of that.

I get testy. Have you been attacked for pointing out immoral behavior through the whole thread? No. Very easy to judge someone and say they're out of line when you haven't been the one called a liar when you were not. Or accused of defending the immoral loons who taped the young man when you never defended them.P> Maybe you need to look closer at the attacks on morality. Jesus wasn't passive.

412 posted on 09/29/2010 7:47:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: patton

I seriously doubt if your grandmother was doing a bunch of boys starting at age 12 or 14. Or that your grandfather was a porn afficiando or had experimented with homosexuality, or had tried dozens of women.

All of which are unfortunately not uncommon now.


413 posted on 09/29/2010 7:48:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
. There are some who are having fits because it was pointed out that the deceased young man had engaged in immoral homosexual behavior. Without that act, the 2 loons had nothing to hurt him with. And yet there are those who are attempting to play down the young man's own actions and attacking anyone who points them out

I don't see it that way.

That he was engaged immorally in no way excuses what the others did, but it seems that many here would rather discuss the victim and his sins.

Yes he took his own life, but to deny the prank was the catalyst is mindboggling. The shame of the act was his, not ours.

414 posted on 09/29/2010 7:49:11 PM PDT by fml
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To: patton

Gosh, now people promoting sexual morality are like Caligula, who was not exactly known for his virtue.


415 posted on 09/29/2010 7:49:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: cajungirl

With the enabling of the adults who are having vicarious thrills and telling the grownups we should just “get over it”.

How are you going to stop it?


416 posted on 09/29/2010 7:50:55 PM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: little jeremiah
Gosh, now people promoting sexual morality are like Caligula, who was not exactly known for his virtue.

We're all sinners.

417 posted on 09/29/2010 7:51:29 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: cajungirl

“I know your grannie must be proud that you outed her as a woman who got pregnant before marriage. Was that your intention?”

Nope - never said any of that.


418 posted on 09/29/2010 7:52:57 PM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: tacticalogic

We’re all sinners, but that’s not an excuse to promote sin.


419 posted on 09/29/2010 7:56:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: little jeremiah

Since we are now free to discuss Patton’s grannie.

I doubt she had Herpes and had to suffer repeated painful attacks and had to take medicine to keep from giving it to any baby she decided not to abort.

I am glad she didn’t have HPV and have to have procedures on her cervix to make sure she didn’t get the cancer associated. And didn’t have to worry about her larynx which is now known to sometimes have cancer associated with hpv.

i AM SO GLAD HIS GRANNIE DIDN’T GET AIDS. From some bisexual liberated male about campus trying ti out with her and the guys.

And I am glad his grannie married and had children and they had children resulting in his being her acting like a 14 year old who is fighting with his parents.

He won’t out his kids but he will out his grannie. Maybe that is his problem. Maybe grannie wasn’t so happy with her early marriage to a man who walked around alot.


420 posted on 09/29/2010 7:57:07 PM PDT by cajungirl
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