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Two more states vote to nullify healthcare reform (amend State Constitutions)
http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2010/11/two-more-states-vote-to-nullify-healthcare-reform.html ^

Posted on 11/03/2010 2:03:07 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

Voters in Arizona and Oklahoma amended their state constitutions Tuesday with "healthcare freedom" measures designed to block the new federal mandate on individuals and some employers to buy health insurance. Voters in Colorado went the other way, defeating a similar initiative. The measures purport to give state residents the right not to participate in any healthcare system without penalty and to have access to any legal medical services they can afford.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; arizona; obama; obamacare; oklahoma; statesrights
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To: cradle of freedom

Here’s a few of the Hollywood people who financed BOXER:

(Can they also vote in your state if resident?)

Sally Field
Robbin WIlliams
Steven Spielberg
Nancy Senatra
Barbara Striesand
Kevin Kline
Julia Dryfess

Financed BROWN:

George Lucas
Warrren Betty
Annette Bening
Tom Hanks
Kirk Douglas
Hugh Hefner

Just interesting to see how entrenched Hollywood is in the elections.


41 posted on 11/03/2010 10:18:28 PM PDT by caww
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To: cradle of freedom

Here’s a few of the Hollywood people who financed BOXER:

(Can they also vote in your state if resident?)

Sally Field
Robbin WIlliams
Steven Spielberg
Nancy Senatra
Barbara Striesand
Kevin Kline
Julia Dryfess

Financed BROWN:

George Lucas
Warrren Betty
Annette Bening
Tom Hanks
Kirk Douglas
Hugh Hefner

Just interesting to see how entrenched Hollywood is in the elections.


42 posted on 11/03/2010 10:19:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: chilltherats

The place is filling up with Californians. They vote the same way they did in the state they fled from. Works the same way in North Carolina, except the carpetbaggers are from high tax states like New Jersdey, New York and Massachusettts, . They figure to get the same public services for lower taxes, and don’t mind voting for higher taxes, just so they are less than those in the Northeast. Ditto, New Hampshire sand Maine. This is mainly the liberal” gentry”that Michael Barone is talking about.


43 posted on 11/03/2010 10:33:37 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

The situation you described will continue to compount itself. We’re in CA, trying hard to get out. We won’t be choosing another blue state, which CO now is, that’s for sure. We want to get as far away from those people as we can. If that’s an example, then conservative Californians will not be coming to CO, thus not providing a counter-balance to the lefties moving there from here.


44 posted on 11/03/2010 11:25:38 PM PDT by chilltherats (He was born with a roaring voice, and it had the trick of inflaming half-wits against their betters)
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To: Paul46360
I'm losing my hospital job in 10 days. Worked for 7 years at a Phoenix hospital doing transcription. Our whole department (30+) is being laid off so they can send our jobs to India. Between the EMR mandate and having to pay for all the illegals using the ER like an urgent care, the hospital had to cut costs somewhere.

Mrs. Prince of Space

45 posted on 11/04/2010 12:31:20 AM PDT by Prince of Space
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To: Indy Pendance

I was delighted to see that Ron Johnson won the Senate seat and great conservative American. Congratulations!

I was still living in California in 2008 and it broke my heart to see Indiana go blue presidentially - but when I looked at the map - it was all red except for Gary (so. of Chicago) and a little part west of Indianapolis.

Sometimes you just can’t fix stupid.

Anyway, it was much better this year - with some blue outposts remaining.

One of the many reasons I moved back to Indiana was CA’s liberal and godless policies (and politicians).


46 posted on 11/04/2010 4:07:24 AM PDT by bethtopaz ( www.rapturealert.com)
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To: Red in Blue PA
The measures purport to give state residents the right not to participate in any healthcare system without penalty and to have access to any legal medical services they can afford.

Wow, the voters of Colorado voted not to give themselves a right they already possessed. I'm stunned.

47 posted on 11/04/2010 6:41:09 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“Voters in Arizona and Oklahoma amended their state constitutions Tuesday with “healthcare freedom” measures designed to block the new federal mandate on individuals and some employers to buy health insurance.”

That is a good beginning, let us hope that the voters in Colorado will come to their senses.


48 posted on 11/04/2010 9:41:45 AM PDT by Immerito
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To: Red in Blue PA

Now that Kansas has dumped it’s demoncrap Atty General, we should soon be joining the fight.


49 posted on 11/04/2010 9:56:04 AM PDT by crosshairs (Guns have two enemies: Rust and Politicians)
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To: chilltherats

CO, like NV, are being invaded by liberals running from Cal. Problem is, they bring the same mind of things with them there and then start trashing the place they moved too get away from with the same ideas that they ran away from the other states too begin with. NC, SC, and FL are in the same boat. GA, mainly around Atlanta and southwest bottom side of GA, are dim voters. Really stunning because Columbus is a military town full of military retirees, yet they seem to vote dim heavy down there. Strange.


50 posted on 11/04/2010 10:05:56 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (I cannot wait until Christ returns in the clouds and calls up the church. Hopefully, SOON!)
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To: beanshirts

“The better route, as suggested by no less statesmen than Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, is for the States to bypass the courts entirely and just unilaterally declare the federal mandates null and void either through legislation or amendments to their State constitutions. This is how many of the States have already engaged in nullification with their health care freedom/firearms freedom bills and referendums that we’ve seen over the last two years.”

This way leads to confrontation and ultimately, secession.

Mind you, I’m not saying that such would be an undesirable course of action.

But when an entire group of states “unilaterally declares” such “independence” from federal control, we have seen what comes next (as in 1776).

Just sayin’....


51 posted on 11/04/2010 11:47:10 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: RetiredArmy

The educational propaganda push within the public schools
has given the lefties an edge in these areas.
We’ve got to reverse or at least slow down this agenda.


52 posted on 11/04/2010 11:51:37 AM PDT by Yorktownpatriot
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To: Prince of Space

I’m miserable to hear you are losing your job. Makes me sick that all these illegals are getting away with this. I’m sure that IF Obamacare goes through, there will be more than enough overworked doctors.


53 posted on 11/04/2010 11:52:43 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: gwjack

“I have an appointment with him next week to discuss entitlements and unfunded mandates.”

Good Luck. I hope it’s all you hope for and then some.


54 posted on 11/04/2010 12:21:44 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone
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To: Red in Blue PA

Obamacare is only one example of the expansion of the federal government beyond its constitutional bounds. While amending the state constitutions in this one instance is worthy, the fundamental political need is to restore the original allocation of power between the state and federal governments in the US Constitution. We can accomplish this by promoting amendments to the US Constitution to restore its original meaning and structure.

The first step is to put through an amendment to the amendment process itself which will eliminate the unnecessary convention now required by Article V and permit States to directly initiate amendment proposals. This will end the current de facto federal congressional and judicial monopoly on interpreting the Constitution, and empower grassroots patriots on the state level to restore the Constitution by amendment. See http://www.timelyrenewed.com


55 posted on 11/04/2010 2:34:26 PM PDT by Timely Renewed (To really solve this we need to restore the US Constitution)
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To: Prince of Space

Transcription in a hospital as always been a department that is sent to 3rd party and then brought back in house. I did biomedical work in the medical field for 12+ years and know what you are saying.


56 posted on 11/04/2010 3:46:46 PM PDT by Paul46360
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To: Paul46360
They've always sent out overflow but just recently to companies who offshore to India. The problem is, however, that they leased a system from Dictaphone 3 years ago; well the lease is up and Dictaphone convinced them it would be more cost productive to sign another lease and allow one of their satellite companies, Nuance/Focus Infomatics, do ALL of their dictation.

Nuance offered us jobs at HALF the money we were making, double the insurance premiums, and 5 whole days of vacation. They also told us all dictation in India would be done in their secure high-tech offices. Well, they lied. They employ Indian MTs who work in their homes, and surprise, surprise, they don't have HIPAA laws in India. I wonder how long it will be before the first information breach occurs.

Mrs. Prince of Space

57 posted on 11/04/2010 11:08:12 PM PDT by Prince of Space
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To: Timely Renewed

The Constitution doesn’t need to be amended to be followed AS IT’S ALREADY WRITTEN. What then... the powers that be in Washington DC simply ignore the new amendments like the whole rest of the Constitution is already ignored now?


58 posted on 11/05/2010 5:41:51 PM PDT by beanshirts
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To: Paul46360

no kidding! i lost my job the day after the bill was signed! took me 9 months to find a job! seriously?
the job loss in healthcare specifically since this bill was signed really needs to be addressed and exposed by someone. im amazed that no one has picked up on the fact that hospitals are cutting all the staff they can becuz this is a double edged sword for them. not only is their cost to insure thier workers going up but their reimbursement for patients is going to drop dramatically.
everyone thinks the job market will explode to handle the increase in patient coverage but they dont realize reimbursement will go way down, the only way hospitals can compensate will be cutting employees and cutting wages... this is a nightmare!
stupid politicians dont get it!


59 posted on 11/13/2010 2:57:39 PM PST by shafted RN (RN job loss)
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