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1 posted on 11/04/2010 10:52:05 AM PDT by Conservative_Pragmatist
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Welcome.


2 posted on 11/04/2010 10:54:21 AM PDT by i_dont_chat ("The Jihadists are coming!" "The Jihadists are coming!")
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We can not afford to work with the dems. They are destroying this country. If you are a real conservative you would know that or are you just another troll? UHM.


3 posted on 11/04/2010 10:54:31 AM PDT by MamaB
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Ozone?


4 posted on 11/04/2010 10:54:52 AM PDT by Enterprise (As a disaster unfolds, a putz putts.)
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Welcome new freeper!

Have to give them some time.

Like a week to ten days.
Then start more Tea Parties.


5 posted on 11/04/2010 10:56:49 AM PDT by cruise_missile
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However, it’s easy to think the electorate in the center could swing right back to the other side if the Republicans fail to deliver. Or get this? Even if the Republicans DO deliver!

This will never happen. The lies, the back stabbing of the Democratic party to American people is a done deal they can’t take it back. We learn from our mistakes.
If anything, a new party will emerge and I don’t think that’s a chance the republicans want to take.

BTW...Welcome aboard! ;)


6 posted on 11/04/2010 10:57:08 AM PDT by marstegreg
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After you pass the troll smell test, you’ll really enjoy it.

Seriously, welcome!


7 posted on 11/04/2010 10:57:19 AM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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Welcome to FR.


9 posted on 11/04/2010 10:58:53 AM PDT by American Quilter (Support FreeRepublic and donate!)
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Obama wont change his modus operendi, or direction, or policies, or divisiveness. so if thats what you are worried about, dont.

maybe if the economy comes back strong, obama will do better. thats the only thing i see that can save him


10 posted on 11/04/2010 10:59:52 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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I wasn’t popping champagne the other night. It was good news but he is still in charge.

CA, NY, OR, WA state and a few others are pretty much lost causes. If their populace does not get it now - they never will.

The idea that the economy is going to get better is delusional. People with money are sitting on it until Obama is gone. No one with an IQ above 50 will invest in the USA or build a factory here. Obama is going down the Mugabe/Zimbabwe path while the idiots watch TV and ball games.

Until he is gone - nothing will improve. People with money will sit on it or make sure it is outside the united states.

Gold and silver stocks are up 5 to 10% today.


11 posted on 11/04/2010 11:00:07 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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While we welcome new-commers, understand that we also suffer from trolls and gremlins who are malicious posters trying to provoke.

A suggestion to assist your bona-fides would be to populate your personal page so that the rest of us get a chance to know you. It also gives us some assurance that you are not a ‘troll’.

The personal page is free-form and you can click on other FReeper’s ID to see theirs and get ideas.


12 posted on 11/04/2010 11:00:15 AM PDT by SES1066 (If you don't vote in November, quit your bitchin!)
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So the struggle I am having is this. Can we afford NOT to work with a Democrat President if it means we can help the USA? If he works WITH our guys, moves to the center, limits government spending and frees up the market and that helps our nation, then it stands a chance he could get re-elected, something I don’t want to see.

First, welcome to FR. Next, if this is your fear, sleep well at night. To begin with, Obama has already stated he has no intention of working with the GOP. He's made a few sops toward accommodation, but nothing substantive, nor will there be anything substantive. The man is a socialist ideologue and believes he's right and the GOP is wrong. He still believes the programs he's put in place with his congressional cohorts are good. That's not going to change.

Thus, he will never move toward the center. His purpose is not to govern as president but to completely transform the US into a socialist nation. And there's no way the GOP can work with that.

So, sleep well. It ain't gonna happen.

13 posted on 11/04/2010 11:00:27 AM PDT by bcsco
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The key issue is spending. Trillion dollar deficits are not sustainable. We need to work with Obama to identify meaninful areas where the budget can be cut.

Now, when Obama talks about "cutting the budget" he almost always means "investing in education, healthcare, roads and bridges, and green technology). That's not cutting the budget. We can't do that anymore.

Republicans have to be willing to make cuts in some areas that we like. Democrats have to be willing to make cuts in areas that they like. If both parties will compromise and make those cuts, then the country will be better off.

But if Obama won't agree on cuts, then I see no point in talking to him. Gridlock, Baby!

14 posted on 11/04/2010 11:01:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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You heard Barry and Harry yesterday. Same idea of “compromise” as always. Agree with me and I might throw you a crumb . . . or not. Say what you will about him and I’ve said plenty, Bill Clinton is the most skilled and smartest politician I’ve seen. But Barry is too stupid and too arrogant to pull off what Clinton did after 1994.


16 posted on 11/04/2010 11:03:13 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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However, WHAT IF Obama decides to compromise with the Republicans?

Compromise with we backwoods, moronic, racist, bible-toting, gun loving, redneck extremists?

Don't bet on it!

17 posted on 11/04/2010 11:03:13 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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barry can not compromise with Republicans because he is not wrong in his ideas (according to him). I read a quote where he said he would compromise with the exception of health care, taxes and cap’n trade.
He will not compromise, I do not care what he says today.


18 posted on 11/04/2010 11:03:25 AM PDT by svcw (If you put a crouton on a your sundae instead of a cherry, it counts as a salad.)
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I can understand your argument--but you're missing a major piece of the puzzle.

Narcissism will not allow zer0 to compromise too much. Sure, he might--on unimportant issues. But don't look for a shift to the center.

He just can't push himself that direction.

19 posted on 11/04/2010 11:03:32 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Be careful about being perceived as a Concern Troll.


20 posted on 11/04/2010 11:04:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Karl Rove: The Republican Jimmy Carter.)
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Contrary to Obama’s recent bleating to the Presstitues that he's willing to meet with the Republican and work things out his ideology lock will not let him.

His words are reminiscent of the abuse spouse.

Just today word is coming out that if the house doesn't do things his way he'll use extraordinary measures to go around the house.

Will he work to move center? IMHO NO!!!!

Must we keep the pressure on?

YES!!!!!!

21 posted on 11/04/2010 11:04:24 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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The time frame for tea party goals is longer than 2 years. It is not just about stopping Obama, although that is part of it. It is also about reversing Obamacare, but it is more than that.

When the Congress and the President passed the stimulus, bailed out the banks and car companies and passed Obamacare, all against the will of the American people, folks got angry and they got scared. The tea party is about making sure that never happens again by restoring a proper Fed/State balance. That will not happen in two years.

But it is not just about stopping and reversing Obama and restoring balance to the government. I would venture to say that every tea party member would VOW to vigilantly watch the government, every day, for the rest of their lives to make sure we aren't slipping.

And not just that. I would further venture to say that each tea party supporter will not only watch but will teach their children and grandchildren to watch. We will train them up to be vigilant. We will tell them stories of stimulus and take overs and power grabs and how we almost lost our country.

But that is not all. We will train our children and grandchildren to train their children and grandchildren so that we may never face this risk again.

So, you see, this is not a two year plan. It is a long term plan and it is not just Federal, it is deep down to the local levels. The establishment politicians have no idea what they unleashed when they ignored the will of the people and tried to impose their will on the rest of us.

24 posted on 11/04/2010 11:06:36 AM PDT by Pete (29thday.org Exponential problems require exponential solutions)
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Welcome aboard -

In all that you said, it is now up to the conservatives to continue to keep the education process going strong and make our up and coming generation aware of how much they stand to lose is progressives get their way.

The gap in our culture is created by the loss of statesmen and conservative spokes people who understand and believe in our heritage.

While patriotic conservatives like Reagan tend to ride off into the sunset, the liberals like Carter, Clinton and Obama will never leave the lime light. Their egos won't allow it. They continue to travel the nation and the world degrading our country and pushing the progressive agenda at our expense and on our taxpayer tab.

25 posted on 11/04/2010 11:06:44 AM PDT by Baynative ( 11 / 2 / 2010 !!!)
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