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Order Blocks Oklahoma Constitutional Amendment
newsok.com ^ | November 8, 2010 | Tim Talley

Posted on 11/08/2010 10:32:14 AM PST by gwjack

A temporary restraining order has been issued to block a state constitutional amendment that prohibits state courts from considering international or Islamic law when deciding cases. U.S. District Judge Vicki Miles-LaGrange handed down the ruling this morning in Oklahoma City following a brief hearing.

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KEYWORDS: 0jama2012; 10thamendment; communism; constitution; crushislam; democrats; dhimmicrats; internationallaw; islam; islamofascism; judicialtyranny; liberalfascism; mileslagrange; mosqueandstate; muslims; november2010; obama; oklahoma; sharialaw; sovereignty; statesrights; theruleoflaw; treason; tyranny; unitednations; vickimileslagrange
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To: gwjack

ONE WORD: IMPEACH!


201 posted on 11/09/2010 1:31:20 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: drypowder

Impeach her.


202 posted on 11/09/2010 1:57:09 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Cowabunga)
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To: Jeff Head; Impy; TigersEye; floriduh voter; snippy_about_it; ovrtaxt; syriacus; ...

U.S. District Judge Vicki Miles-LaGrange ...

Supreme Sandwich Just-us Elana Kagan also thinks that Federal judges have that power.


203 posted on 11/09/2010 2:13:17 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Our 2010 victory was won the Tea Party Way, not the RINO way.)
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To: screaminsunshine; Ronbo1948

I wish it were that simple — impeach. But who was impeached over Kelo? How many justices were impeached for dissenting against gun rights in Chicago v. McDonald? Most congress critters will tell you that they aren’t empowered to impeach over rulings. A crock, but that’s how they are educated in modern colleges.


204 posted on 11/09/2010 2:17:06 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Our 2010 victory was won the Tea Party Way, not the RINO way.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

It is that simple as soon as enough people wake up. If they do not well it is over.


205 posted on 11/09/2010 2:18:30 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Cowabunga)
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To: Candor7

Thank you for the important ping. Outrageous. Any amendment that doesn’t include judicial reform is a waste of time.


206 posted on 11/09/2010 2:20:19 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Our 2010 victory was won the Tea Party Way, not the RINO way.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; MHGinTN; Uncle Chip; OldDeckHand

Judicial review is no longer limited to legislation. It has expanded to the point that we can not even amend the People’s Constitution.


207 posted on 11/09/2010 2:24:07 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Our 2010 victory was won the Tea Party Way, not the RINO way.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Hmmm?

What then?

Clearly we need massive purge of Leftist judges on the federal bench, and the only way to do that quickly is a revolution.

This fact alone makes me pray for a revolution!

Imagine hundreds of these Leftist parasites in black robes thrown out on the street minus perks, salary and pensions into the worse economy since 1933 created by their very own Comrade Obama.

I get warm fuzzy feeling!

Yes, there is a Just God who rules the universe and His Justice will not sleep forever.


208 posted on 11/09/2010 2:38:26 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: Ronbo1948; loboinok; screaminsunshine
I doubt the Supremes will support that only because we are lucky enough to have sane supremes. But we can't keep playing judicial roulette like this.
209 posted on 11/09/2010 2:48:22 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Our 2010 victory was won the Tea Party Way, not the RINO way.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Yep!

The only way I can see to makes things right on the Federal Bench quickly is to clear it of about half the players in a revolution.

A revolution that may actually happen if Obama and Company manage to totally wreck the economy, which does seem possible any day now.

Economic collapse is the thing revolutions are made of.


210 posted on 11/09/2010 3:02:46 AM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: gwjack

Chief Judge Vicki Miles-LaGrange was the first African-American to be appointed to the federal bench in Oklahoma. Her appointment by President Bill Clinton in 1994 also made her the first African-American federal judge in the six-state region of the federal Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals. Her sponsoring senator was then Senator David Boren, who is currently president of the University of Oklahoma. President Clinton had previously appointed her to serve as United States Attorney for the Western District of Oklahoma. She was the first woman to hold that position and one of the first female U.S. attorneys in the nation. Judge Miles-LaGrange was the first African-American woman elected to the Oklahoma State Senate. She served as a senator from 1986-1993, advocating for programs benefiting children, families, educations, law and justice. While serving in the Oklahoma Legislature, Judge Miles-LaGrange was engaged in the private practice of law in the firm of Miles-LaGrange & Colbert. Earlier in her career, Judge Miles-LaGrange worked as both a federal and state prosecutor. She prosecuted Nazi war criminals for the U.S. Department of Justice, and she prosecuted sex crimes as an assistant district attorney in Oklahoma County. Judge Miles-LaGrange is a cum laude graduate of Vassar College and, while a student there, received a certificate from the University of Ghana. She received her law degree from Howard University, where she was an editor of The Howard Law Journal. During law school, she worked as a congressional aide for the late Speaker of the U. S. House of Representative Carl Albert. After law school, she clerked for Judge Woodrow Seals on the U.S. District Court in Houston, Texas. Chief Judge Miles-LaGrange served as a member of the International Judicial Relations Committee of the Judicial Conference of the United States from 1999-2005 and chaired that committee’s Africa Working Group. Her rule of law work has taken her to Rwanda, Liberia, Ghana, Kenya, Cape Verde China and Brazil. She has taught in China at Tianjin University of Finance and Economics and at Tsinghua University School of Law, at the Harvard University Law School Advocacy Workshop, and at the Attorney General’s National Advocacy Center for federal prosecutors. She has received numerous honors, including induction into the Oklahoma Women’s Hall of Fame, Oklahoma African-American Hall of Fame, Child Advocates Hall of Fame and Mid-America Educational Hall of Fame. She is a graduate of Leadership Oklahoma, Class V, and Leadership Oklahoma City, Class V. The Chief Judge holds an Honorary Doctor of Laws degree from Oklahoma City University.


211 posted on 11/09/2010 3:31:49 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: goldstategop
I think we have a triple hyphen winner!

1. Miles-LaGrange

2. African-American

who is a

3. Person-of-Gender


212 posted on 11/09/2010 3:37:48 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: WOBBLY BOB
""Ghana Law is even better than Scottish law! "

That is a far cry from a real Scott(like William Wallace) you have depicted there.

Arlen is a Kansas schoolboy friend of Bob Dole who moved to Pennsylvania and thereby increased the IQ(Integrity Quotient) of both States.

213 posted on 11/09/2010 4:07:17 AM PST by wmileo
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To: gwjack

It is no wonder I am aggravated all the time. I live in a world I am not familiar with.

Silly me thought the US was a sovereign nation with our own laws.


214 posted on 11/09/2010 4:22:54 AM PST by panthermom
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To: reagandemocrat

“The order was sought in a lawsuit by Oklahoma Muslim Muneer Awad. Awad is executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Oklahoma and said during the hearing that the law stigmatizes his religion.”

Your violent, totalitarian political system masquerading as a religion deserves every bit of stigma we can heap upon it, Muneer baby. Suck it up.


215 posted on 11/09/2010 4:25:36 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Like I said ...

“Keep it up, judges. You’re next!”

They’re not untouchable.


216 posted on 11/09/2010 4:30:53 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: gwjack

and the state of OKLAHOMA just needs to bring back their National Guard where ever they are and tell the feds....

MAKE ME!

this is a state law and has nothing to do with the feds.


217 posted on 11/09/2010 4:48:48 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Don W
The establishment of a religion by any individual STATE is most definitely NOT hampered in any way by the U.S Constitution.

Yes, it is. Nearly all of the provisions of the Bill of Rights have been incorporated against the states, through the application of the 14th Amendment. The prohibition against the establishment of religion was formally incorporated by the Supreme Court in the 1940s.

The First Amendment also says that Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech. In case you hadn't noticed, states are also Constitutionally prohibited from banning speech, even though that clause originally only applied to the federal Congress.

More about incorporation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of_the_Bill_of_Rights

218 posted on 11/09/2010 4:59:04 AM PST by LorenC
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To: circlecity

I’ll bet he issued this TRO on the basis that the amendment specifies Sharia which in turn means islam. Now I believe if the amendment was worded to say that no “religious” law could be used in the courts the judge would have considered it valid. However to single out a specific religion (even though islam is a cult) would be discriminatory.


219 posted on 11/09/2010 5:55:59 AM PST by rfreedom4u ("A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.")
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To: LurkedLongEnough
It was noble but stupid to pass this law. The law is clearly unconstitutional

No. It is clearly CONSTITUTIONAL. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Stare decisis of the 14th Amendment says the 1st Amendment is incorporated to the states. Using Sharia to decide court cases in civil courts is an establishment of religion: it establishes Islam's law above the law of the land. Also, Sharia cannot uphold the equality under the law clause of the 14th amendment, since it treats women as chattel.

220 posted on 11/09/2010 6:32:48 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (“The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people..." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: Don W
The establishment of a religion by any individual STATE is most definitely NOT hampered in any way by the U.S Constitution.

Unfortunately, not true any more. Per the 14th (and court cases), the Bill of Rights is incorporated against the states. It's the same reason Chicago cannot ban guns--the 2nd is incorporated against the states.

221 posted on 11/09/2010 6:36:14 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (“The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people..." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: newheart

How many times did it take her to pass the Bar exam, one year every graduate from howard failed the Maryland Bar Exam


222 posted on 11/09/2010 6:43:29 AM PST by stan_sipple
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To: Osage Orange
Until Islam is reformed by Muslims, the only way forward that ensures our survival is to ban Islam. The reason it must be banned is that it is not just a religion. It is a totalitarian world view that has political IMPERATIVES. In order for one to be a Muslim in good standing, one must accept that Sharia Law is above all other law.

Because of this, Sharia law violates the constitution by setting up a second branch of the Judiciary, (an other government) and violates Section 1 of the 14th amendment, equal protection.

Sharia law and western democracy are implacable enemies and cannot coexist. One or the other will be destroyed. Nowhere has this world view existed in peace with others.

Islam must be recognized as a violent political and terrorist movement much like the former National Socialist German Workers Party. When it removes it's political demands, and ceases to claim a right to forcibly subjugate other religions by doctrine or law, Islam may be considered a religion “like any other”.

That is my opinion.

223 posted on 11/09/2010 7:02:37 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: gwjack

What happens when a state just ignores the dictators in black robes?


224 posted on 11/09/2010 7:44:08 AM PST by Grunthor (I learned only after Obamas' election that I am a racist, SEXIST, homophobe, anarchist.)
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To: Jvette

What’s being a woman got to do with it?


225 posted on 11/09/2010 7:48:44 AM PST by AutumnFire
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To: gwjack; All

Even more irritating is that the person that filed the suit is NOT an Oklahoma resident and DOES NOT HAVE STANDING. The judge should never have listened to the case.

Funny has “Standing” is only important to liberal judges when it involves suits against the POTUS.


226 posted on 11/09/2010 8:19:21 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Vaquero

“and the state of OKLAHOMA just needs to bring back their National Guard where ever they are and tell the feds...
MAKE ME!”

The National Guard stopped being a strictly “State” militia a long time ago. Should a governor try to use it to enforce an Oklahoma law (perfectly reasonable) that the federal government didn’t want enforced, the POTUS would simply federalize it. Happened too many times in the past in Arkansas and Alabama. So, the Guard is not the answer.

Additionally, although I agree this idiot judge should be removed from the bench, it won’t happen because Congress won’t take the time to deal with it....and wouldn’t. That doesn’t make them right, but that is the way it is.

So, I’m not sure how to fix this. The answer has to be a political one.


227 posted on 11/09/2010 8:28:58 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Grunthor; All

“What happens when a state just ignores the dictators in black robes?”

That seems to be the most reasonably solution in my thinking. Simple passive resistance.


228 posted on 11/09/2010 8:31:24 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Another unconstitutional piece O crap.


229 posted on 11/09/2010 9:10:17 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: AutumnFire

Can’t believe you even have to ask, but since you did....

Sharia Law is especially harsh on women.

Liberal women love to blast Christians, but never speak out against the abuses, REAL abuses of women under this law.


230 posted on 11/09/2010 9:10:37 AM PST by Jvette
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To: Sola Veritas

SV —

Thank you for your service! Any time you want to move back to Oklahoma, you will be welcomed with open arms. If you ever get to OKC. Let me know and we can share a cup of coffee.

I agree with your words. But remember, this is but the first shot fired in a long battle. We must remain steadfast to our calling.

Again, thank you for your service.

Gwjack


231 posted on 11/09/2010 10:00:37 AM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: screaminsunshine

No, think sharia...
STONE HER

yep, it’s sick, and that’s the point.


232 posted on 11/09/2010 10:29:07 AM PST by small farm girl
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“They’re not untouchable.”

They were during the Kelo ruling. Something’s gotta give.


233 posted on 11/09/2010 12:32:31 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Our 2010 victory was won the Tea Party Way, not the RINO way.)
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To: Ronbo1948

It’s sad to have to count judicial noses, but that’s where we’re at right now — one heart beat away from a radical supreme court.

I am confident that Justice Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito will not stand for this. Kennedy is the wild card. If Kennedy decides that amemdnets such as this require a judicial stamp of approval, then legal solutions are in serious trouble. Kennedy was pro-Kelo but also recently was pro-gun rights. He seems impressionable to his fellow justices’ influence. Will Kagan and the rest talk him into an oligarchy? That’s the question. Until that question is answered, let’s keep the safety on, OK?


234 posted on 11/09/2010 12:48:31 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Our 2010 victory was won the Tea Party Way, not the RINO way.)
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To: reagandemocrat

> that the law stigmatizes his religion

Imagine Christians trying to make the same argument. They would be shredded by the courts and the press, not to mention the ACLU, PAW, CPUSA, SPLC, and the other usual suspects.


235 posted on 11/09/2010 4:06:03 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Art in Idaho
David Horowitz answers your questions here.


236 posted on 11/09/2010 4:08:35 PM PST by Jacquerie (The law is too important to be left to judges.)
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To: ecomcon

> Until Islam is reformed by Muslims

Sorry, the most violent mohammedans *ARE* the reformers.

The Christian Reformation was initiated when people started “Reading the Book”. Freedom of Conscience is a fundamental Christian principle. The Reformation led to the Renaissance, which led to the Enlightenment.

The closer a Christian Society gets to the Bible, the freer people become to make their own choices. What better way to reveal the true character of a man than to see the choices he freely makes.

The closer a Mohammedan gets to his Quran, the more violent and hateful he becomes. The Quran is a hateful, violent screed compiled from the rantings and droolings of the syphillitic pedophile pirate Mohammed.

Mohammed was a pirate, a thief, a mass murderer, a torturer, a rapist, a pedophile, a polygamist, a slave trader, a Jew-hater, and all around genocidal savage.

Mohammed, the genocidal savage, pedophile pirate, is held as the paragon of Mohammedanism. All Mohammedans who hold the foaming ravings in Mohammed’s hateful screed as literal commandments from their demonic deity, and aspire to the murderous achievments of their bloody “prophet”, will commit the most savage acts imaginable, as has been clearly seen throughout the ages, since the emergence of Mohammedanism in the seventh century.

There is no way to “reform” this rabid, hateful, murderous, genocidal, insane cult of death.

Islam must be eradicated if there is to be any hope for any peace.


237 posted on 11/09/2010 4:24:48 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: gwjack

Very interesting.


238 posted on 11/09/2010 5:41:51 PM PST by skookum55 ("We can give up on America or we can give up on this president ...." D. D'Souza)
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To: Westbrook

Agreed, except that I do not believe it is our job to eradicate Islam. It is our job to debunk, ridicule, scorn and repudiate it as not a religion, but a totalitarian world view that only morons, perverts, thugs, and the ignorant would subscribe to. The same way we treated NAZISM during WW2. Islamic groups investigated, infiltrated, and disrupted, with its leaders jailed.


239 posted on 11/09/2010 5:48:17 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: gwjack

“Any time you want to move back to Oklahoma”

I may live in Missouri, but my heart remains in Oklahoma.
:-) I have never been ashamed to tell folks I am from Oklahoma.


240 posted on 11/09/2010 6:39:12 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: ecomcon

> I do not believe it is our job to eradicate Islam

Like Nazism, islam must be utterly discredited *AND* destroyed. It is a cancerous tumor and must be ripped out. Like cancer, any cells involved with or infected with the cancer must be destroyed.

There is no other way to eradicate it.

The surest way to destroy islam is to destroy Mecca. Their Quran says that Mecca would never be destroyed. Leave Mecca a molten, formless, smoldering radioactive crater, and that would be the end of islam.


241 posted on 11/09/2010 9:13:35 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: screaminsunshine

If the arrogant federal courts want to declare themselves above the constitution. They should be ignored, anyone who attempts to enforce their lawless edict should be arrested and charged with treason.

The trial shall take place in State not Federal Cort as the federal court cannot be held a legitimate judge of its own serous offenses against the people and States of the United States.


242 posted on 11/15/2010 12:03:05 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: gwjack

Any consideration of islamic sharia law goes directly against the often used democrat party cry against separation of state from religion. Any religious law or doctrine of law cannot be considered or be deemed relevant in any court of law in this country.

FUBO and FAD


243 posted on 12/22/2010 10:26:03 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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