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Middle class downsizes as good jobs vanish
The Miami Herald ^ | November 11, 2010 | Kevin G. Hall

Posted on 11/11/2010 9:33:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: re_nortex

Me too all people who are getting money either from working or government should pay the 10% Tax with no deductions!!! Do away with IRS!


161 posted on 11/12/2010 11:10:17 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Toddsterpatriot

thanks, I was able to get to a site with archived Jefferson papers from there and see which portion of the quote is attributed to him.


162 posted on 11/12/2010 11:13:34 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: tallyhoe
Do away with IRS!

It will never happen. There are to many people whose jobs depend in the process being overly complex.

They will squeal like pigs if we try to take away their gravy train.

"Gravy sucking pigs" Lol I haven't used that phrase in a long time LoL

163 posted on 11/12/2010 11:16:25 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
I'd hit it. ☺

OMG! So would I!!!!

164 posted on 11/12/2010 11:16:40 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: Lazamataz

LoL! It’s always best to keep things in perspective.


165 posted on 11/12/2010 11:17:57 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

sounds like they need to be retrained! Do away with the IRS!


166 posted on 11/12/2010 11:56:33 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: mylife

Just think you never have to file again! One you sign up at employer or government job or retirement when they cut you a check they take 10%!!! No fuss no mess. And you only have to fill out form when you change jobs. If your in business for your self you don’t pay taxes on your business only your pay from the business!


167 posted on 11/12/2010 11:59:45 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe

As I said, there are to many leaches making a buck off the current convoluted system.

They wont go quietly.


168 posted on 11/12/2010 12:04:30 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

That car is parked in the State Unemployment Office parking lot; he’s inside (the office, not the car), and the car has a “For Sale, Cheap” sign in the back window.


169 posted on 11/12/2010 12:42:54 PM PST by Logic n' Reason (You can roll a turd in powered sugar; that don't make it a jelly donut)
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To: Logic n' Reason

A lotus elan would be fun, but on these roads?

And where you gonna find a guy named Nigel to work on the thing? ;)


170 posted on 11/12/2010 12:46:29 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
4 years to educate him and 5 to re-educate him.

Then 15 years to gain the requisite experience; 2 really productive years, 4 years worth of layoffs, 7 years of consulting work...and then, whadaha know...he's too old to be of any use to anyone any more, and is thrown out on the street....once again, unemployed and now unemployable.

It is to cry that the SS age was advanced to 85, and he's only 55. Ah well....he'll get along....somehow.

171 posted on 11/12/2010 12:47:03 PM PST by Logic n' Reason (You can roll a turd in powered sugar; that don't make it a jelly donut)
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To: mylife
High Speed Rail!!!

Nigel??? Weee don neeeeed no steeeenking Nigel!

172 posted on 11/12/2010 12:49:11 PM PST by Logic n' Reason (You can roll a turd in powered sugar; that don't make it a jelly donut)
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To: Logic n' Reason

Somehow we survive.


173 posted on 11/12/2010 12:49:15 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Logic n' Reason

174 posted on 11/12/2010 12:51:22 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TopQuark

No it appears some people live in la la land.


175 posted on 11/12/2010 1:28:16 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mylife; sickoflibs
I had a young EE who graduated a good school with a 4.0, who was watching me adjust a circuit putting in new resistor values, ask me “what is that wire for?” I was stunned for a moment, then replied....”this is called solder”

After I graduated with a bachelor's in computer science, I had zero experience in hardware, but I learned from some of the old hands at work.

I traveled from Austin to Hong Kong to help some of their support people diagnose a problem in which the operating system on a PC was hung and would not respond to the keyboard (so they could not take a memory dump).

Here is where I could use what I learned about hardware. I opened up the case and touched 2 points in an adapter card slot together with a ball point pin, causing a non-maskable interrupt and allowing me to use the kernel debugger. The Hong Kong people loved it.

176 posted on 11/12/2010 1:44:59 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Lt. Col. Ralph Peters: Obama is the dog who caught the fire truck!)
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To: mylife

I never said it would be easy but it must be done!


177 posted on 11/12/2010 2:29:21 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: TopQuark
The notion of a market is a relative one: there is a market for each commodity (where the commodity is specified by time and place of availability, etc.). The market is free is the exchange in that market is unconstrained. This does not mean that people participating in that exchange are unconstrained in general. They may have a great deal of constraints, such as regulation of their lives and taxation, but as long as the exchange of the given commodity is free, the market is free.

Now, please tell us why the market in question is not free for the purpose of discussion.

178 posted on 11/12/2010 2:42:10 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

McGyver!


179 posted on 11/12/2010 3:41:23 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Gondring

TQ, I did not intend to imply that you were restricting your argument to the cost of labor alone. So I too will confess to writing in haste and repenting/apologizing at leisure.

;-]


180 posted on 11/12/2010 5:04:52 PM PST by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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