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Middle class downsizes as good jobs vanish
The Miami Herald ^ | November 11, 2010 | Kevin G. Hall

Posted on 11/11/2010 9:33:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: freedomfiter2
If these MBAs are really businessmen and not just paper pushers, they won’t have to starve.

There is a lot of the problem. Non value added chuckleheads prorating to a project at top dollar.

Dump the dead wood, streamline the process.

41 posted on 11/11/2010 11:42:11 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
There is a lot of the problem. Non value added chuckleheads prorating to a project at top dollar. Dump the dead wood, streamline the process.

Good point. I am fortunate; I produce something real.

42 posted on 11/11/2010 11:43:42 PM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: Lazamataz
Your problem is the Chinese worker seems to be making 17 gadgets an hour at that wage.

Bingo. Any improvement in productivity, and/or willingness to work your people to death with a massive back-up labor pool leaves us outmatched at every step. Something only protectionism can counter.

43 posted on 11/11/2010 11:45:35 PM PST by neutronsgalore (ROPERS DELENDA EST!!!)
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To: neutronsgalore

I’m no fan of protectionism, though.


44 posted on 11/11/2010 11:47:41 PM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: Lazamataz

I am a producer as well.
But I see most of my budget eaten up by nipple heads in meetings acting important and throwing out road blocks to production.

Heck, if the process worked we wouldn’t need the eggheads being paid top dollar to troubleshoot the process.

They thrive on BS rather than focus on production.


45 posted on 11/11/2010 11:49:28 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Lazamataz

A BIG problem I see now adays is we have gone down this route that only College educated douchebags are smart.

We are on a path that disenfranchises the Common man, the backbone, the soul, the very bulk of the economy. The consumer.

Try to run a company without producers.

If the middle class is dispensable you just dismissed your profit


46 posted on 11/11/2010 11:57:18 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Lazamataz
I’m no fan of protectionism, though.

Just for the record, I strongly favor protectionism!

...that is protecting our liberties against unionism.

Big Labor and its anti-business, anti-capitalist, anti-freedom agenda (propped up Democrats) is a cancer. We can kill this evil beast with Right to Work. Those fools who still wish to join a union outfit can still do so but without coercing others to be part of the corruption.

47 posted on 11/12/2010 12:00:08 AM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas...)
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To: ari-freedom
Yes, they will be hard to get back with Obama’s current policy of Wall Street bashing.

He pretends to hate Wall Street while he really has very good relationships with Wall Street leftists.

48 posted on 11/12/2010 12:03:12 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Lt. Col. Ralph Peters: Obama is the dog who caught the fire truck!)
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I swear, What I am seeing is management thwarting production.

The more ****ed up it is the more they can demand in pay to “fix it”

Dr Demming was right

I see the six sigma black belts hose **** up all the time


49 posted on 11/12/2010 12:06:44 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: re_nortex

” ...that is protecting our liberties against unionism. “

An even bigger problem is the teacher’s union because our educational system just isn’t any match for the Chinese and other countries.
But we have an even bigger problem in that our pop culture values style and despises anything of real substance. There’s a saying that in China, Bill Gates is their Britney Spears. In the US, Britney Spears... is our Britney Spears.


50 posted on 11/12/2010 12:08:17 AM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“He pretends to hate Wall Street while he really has very good relationships with Wall Street leftists.”

not the millions in the finance industry that lost their jobs.


51 posted on 11/12/2010 12:09:36 AM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: re_nortex

Right to work IS the answer.

And that doesn’t just apply to the Unions. It applies to elite eggheads as well.


52 posted on 11/12/2010 12:11:05 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Everyday, a push to take ownership over non value added processes and dismiss value added processes.

All based on class.

I have seen college educated folks build empires thwarting the process, and innovative worker bees dismissed as cattle.


53 posted on 11/12/2010 12:17:30 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Please excuse my ignorance; what are value-added and non-value-added processes?


54 posted on 11/12/2010 12:22:38 AM PST by TexNewMex
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To: mylife

Please excuse my ignorance; what are value-added and non-value-added processes?


55 posted on 11/12/2010 12:23:00 AM PST by TexNewMex
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To: TexNewMex

Value added is a guy that saves the customer money and makes the company money doing the job in one week.
Non value added are the 25 bean counters charging for 8 weeks after the job is done rangling over BS that doesn’t change the end product.


56 posted on 11/12/2010 12:27:18 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TexNewMex

Value add refers to “extra” feature(s) of an item of interest (product, service, person, etc.) that go beyond the standard expectations and provide something “more” while adding little or nothing to its cost. Value added features give competitive edges to companies with otherwise more expensive products.


57 posted on 11/12/2010 12:28:33 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

America will NEVER be able to compete with China as long as the capital gains tax rates are 0% there, and up to 35% here.

It is by design.


58 posted on 11/12/2010 12:31:07 AM PST by kingpins10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need a president that can lead! All that has to be done is lower the corp rate tax to 10% Loosen regulations so that companies can compete. Give companies tax breaks for creating jobs here...The more jobs they create the bigger the tax break!


59 posted on 11/12/2010 12:33:05 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: TexNewMex

I have never understood some of this stuff that goes on in the world.

Say I own a breakfast cafe, And I think that potatoes and flour are cheap so I serve huge portions of hash browns and huge flakey biscuits for the same price as the clown across town that is skimpy and charges more and treats his customers like ****, the egg yolk is busted, there is no tobasco on the table the portions are small...

Who do you think is value added?
Where would you eat breakfast?


60 posted on 11/12/2010 12:40:06 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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