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Critics Slam Obama Administration for 'Hiding' Massive Saudi Arms Deal (Largest Ever)
ABC News ^ | 11/19/10

Posted on 11/19/2010 4:43:29 PM PST by My Favorite Headache

The Obama administration has quietly forged ahead with its proposal to sell $60 billion worth of fighter jets and attack helicopters to Saudi Arabia unhampered by Congress, despite questions raised in legislative inquiries and in an internal congressional report about the wisdom of the deal.

The massive arms deal would be the single largest sale of weapons to a foreign nation in the history of the U.S., outfitting Saudi Arabia with a fully modernized, potent new air force.

"Our six-decade-long security relationship with Saudi Arabia is a primary security pillar in the region," Defense Sec. Robert M. Gates and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton wrote in a Nov. 16 letter to congress. "This package continues that tradition."

But some critics are questioning the deal, and the stealthy effort by the Obama administration to avoid a more probing congressional review by notifying Congress last month, just as members were headed home for the November elections. Congress had 30 days to raise objections -- a review period that concludes Saturday. With most members leaving Washington today, any significant effort to block the deal appears dead for now, officials said.

"I do not think there will be any action" to hold up the sale, Rep. Howard Berman, the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told Bloomberg News Thursday.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Florida; US: Missouri; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: anthonyweiner; bradsherman; california; f15; florida; hillaryclinton; howardberman; ileanaroslehtinen; iran; israel; kitbond; missouri; newyork; robertgates; saudiarabia; waronterror
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Gotta read the rest of this article...very long and detailed.
1 posted on 11/19/2010 4:43:33 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache

Hmmmmmmmmm ... what group of 19 individuals had 14 who originated from Saudi Arabia?


2 posted on 11/19/2010 4:46:13 PM PST by jessduntno (In the news: Arab assassins. Pirates. Dengue. Cholera. Typhoid. Hookworm. Bedbugs. Cripes ...)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I feel increasingly worried for Israel.


3 posted on 11/19/2010 4:46:58 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: My Favorite Headache

PRIORITIES


4 posted on 11/19/2010 4:55:10 PM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down!)
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Another extra-Congressional decision, and this comes on the heels of Bammy severely warning the new Congress today not to defund his precious stimulus money. I smell revolt coming soon.


5 posted on 11/19/2010 4:55:33 PM PST by NOBO2
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To: marstegreg
I feel increasingly worried for Israel.

According to the article, anyways, the sale involves 85 F-15s (which will be a derivative of the US's "E" variant) and 175 attack helicopters.

The attack helos (assume derivative of the AH-64D) won't pose much of a threat to Israel themselves, as any large movement of them into a threatening position would in conjunction with movement of other Saudi military assets, be seen by Israeli recce assets, and would provoke an immediate Israeli preemptive strike.

The F-15s may be worrisome, but remember that they are the multi-role version of the F-15 (the single seat dedicated air-superiority version having ended production over two decades ago with the F-15C). Even if the Saudis get the proposed F-15SE "Silent Eagle" variant, the one getting stealth enhancements, the Israelis will be getting a fair number of F-35As which, when used in a defensive posture, will ensure them complete air dominance over any other air force operating in the region, except for the US (only operator of the F-22A). That's WITHOUT factoring in the AD batteries (Patriots/PAC3s, etc), the coordinated defense networks, etc that the Israelis have. This sale strikes me as being targeted against the possibility of a regional war with Iran (which the Saudis, tho they may really hate Israel, knows is the biggest threat to them), with negligible impact on Israel's security.
6 posted on 11/19/2010 5:00:51 PM PST by tanknetter
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Rep. Anthony Weiner, a New York Democrat, submitted a resolution this week to try and block the deal, and was among those who objected to the way the administration approached the required congressional review. Wow Weiner is one of them so this is interesting he objects? I so dislike this bunch
7 posted on 11/19/2010 5:05:12 PM PST by ColdOne (Again Who Knew MSNBC has "standards and policies?")
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To: My Favorite Headache

Where do you suppose these weapons will end up? In Iran? With Hamas? Who knows???


8 posted on 11/19/2010 5:10:53 PM PST by SootyFoot2
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To: tanknetter

This sale strikes me as being targeted against the possibility of a regional war with Iran (which the Saudis, tho they may really hate Israel, knows is the biggest threat to them), with negligible impact on Israels security.

I understand that this is the current situation, but remember Afghanistan? Remember how we trained them and armed them only to have to return to fight them ourselves? Remember reading that pushing the Russians back (with our help) empowered them to come up with 9/11? This is a very dangerous game he is playing. I pray that history will not repeat itself.I am stunned that we have learned nothing from our mistakes (especially in the Middle East)


9 posted on 11/19/2010 5:12:11 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: My Favorite Headache

And liberals accused George W. Bush of being in bed with the Saudis.


10 posted on 11/19/2010 5:13:42 PM PST by Hoodat ( Don't touch my junk, Bro !)
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To: Hoodat
The very first bow from Obama to a head of state was to the Saudi King.

All the other bows that followed was to cover up his fealty to the protector of Mecca and Medina.



11 posted on 11/19/2010 5:22:10 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: FrankR

Hahaha! What is the yellow button on his lapel? A union label?
I think you got everything FrankR. Rules for Radicals in his pocket, the ice cream cone.


12 posted on 11/19/2010 5:23:27 PM PST by ColdOne (Again Who Knew MSNBC has "standards and policies?")
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To: SootyFoot2
Where do you suppose these weapons will end up? In Iran? With Hamas? Who knows???

Melted into the glass of what was once their airfields if they ever turned them against Israel.

13 posted on 11/19/2010 5:25:42 PM PST by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport all illegal aliens. Illegal is not a race - it is a crime. WhooRaah! Arizona!)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...

Thanks My Favorite Headache. And yet, Clinton also sez:
14 posted on 11/19/2010 5:28:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: 444Flyer

Is this the same arms deal we were discussing when Michelle was in Spain?


15 posted on 11/19/2010 5:34:16 PM PST by HollyB
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To: Hoodat

“And liberals accused George W. Bush of being in bed with the Saudis.”

http://www.bartcop.com/bush-kiss-sheik.jpg


16 posted on 11/19/2010 5:34:21 PM PST by CommieCutter (A Centrist Democrat is now defined as: between Socialism and Communism.)
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Let me know when you find the one of the Saudi King giving Obama the reach-around.


17 posted on 11/19/2010 5:38:28 PM PST by Hoodat ( Don't touch my junk, Bro !)
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To: My Favorite Headache
....despite questions raised in legislative inquiries and in an internal congressional report about the wisdom of the deal.

Hmmmm,

Obama administration supports Saudi immunity in 9/11 lawsuit

The late Beverly Eckert's Saudi case quashed by President Barack Obama

A Saudi prince's threat to the Obama administration

9/11 families - Obama favors Saudi terror financiers over victims

Saudi Prince paid for Obama's Harvard Law Education - HRH Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin AbdulAziz Alsaud

18 posted on 11/19/2010 5:48:02 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: CommieCutter


19 posted on 11/19/2010 5:52:44 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Hoodat

I guess this arms deal is ok, as long as you don’t sell them the really good stuff. After all, you might have to invade them in a few years if good King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al Saud changes his mind about cheap oil, terrorist camps, and drinking at the PX.


20 posted on 11/19/2010 5:53:59 PM PST by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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