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Dark energy and flat Universe exposed by simple method
BBC News ^ | 11/24/10 | BBC

Posted on 11/24/2010 12:52:49 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: Cicero
If the universe is flat, does it sit on the back of a turtle?

Assuming turtles are flat, then yes.


21 posted on 11/24/2010 1:52:34 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: NormsRevenge

“dark energy” - powering nobama, reid and pelosi since at least 2008.


22 posted on 11/24/2010 1:54:59 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: NormsRevenge
I LIKE SIMPLE!


23 posted on 11/24/2010 1:57:29 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SeeSac

Though now we know that neutrinos are there. Quark or string level for dark matter?


24 posted on 11/24/2010 2:00:33 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Cicero

Wow. Disk World is real after all?


25 posted on 11/24/2010 2:01:15 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: SunkenCiv; CJ Wolf; houeto; Quix; null and void; B4Ranch; Whenifhow; Silentgypsy; blam; FromLori; ..
"Space Energy/Solar Weirdness" ping.


Ping list dealing with odd space phenomena and solar events.

FReepmail me if you want on or off

The Comedian's "Space Energy/Solar Weirdness" ping list...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

26 posted on 11/24/2010 2:08:29 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Why? For the usual reason one posits an unobserved entity in science—to explain things one observes which the observed entities and laws do not explain.

Personally, I suspect once one gets the quantum theory of gravity right (no, string theory isn’t it) the “need” for ‘dark matter’ and ‘dark energy’ go away.


27 posted on 11/24/2010 2:28:49 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: GreenHornet
What type of fabric is space and time made of? Is it washable, or should it be dry cleaned?

Absolutely dry-clean only. Just imagine how bad it could get with shrinkage!

28 posted on 11/24/2010 2:46:12 PM PST by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: UCANSEE2

“It’s turtles all the way down.”


29 posted on 11/24/2010 2:49:40 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: zeugma

Watch out for the moths. They’re the ones that leave all the ‘black holes’.


30 posted on 11/24/2010 6:28:35 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
They still don’t know, do they?

"Ya got that right, doc."


31 posted on 11/24/2010 6:38:57 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SeeSac
How many neutrinos do you see fly through your eyeballs each day?

Is one day like, just during the day? Or is it, like, uh, day and night together ?

32 posted on 11/24/2010 6:41:09 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

You do realize that you’re missing a “Bristol Palin dancing with Mormons at a TSA check point while a Missile and or airplane flies overhead” thread by reading this science thread!!


33 posted on 11/24/2010 7:09:34 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: The Comedian; AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; ...
Thanks The Comedian.


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34 posted on 11/24/2010 7:48:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: The Comedian

I’ll never forget how deeply I recognized this statement to be the truth.

“If you don’t read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.” Mark Twain

Consequently, I simultaneously became a doubter and a believer in almost everything until I had time to prove it to myself.


35 posted on 11/24/2010 8:45:30 PM PST by B4Ranch (I never met one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Dark Matter” is a mathematical construct...it doesn’t actually exist. All that DM “explains” is why the universe expands at a faster rate each year.

Of course, the reality is that DM isn’t why the universe is expanding faster at all. It can’t explain it. Dark Matter doesn’t exist.


36 posted on 11/24/2010 8:49:39 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: GreenHornet
What type of fabric is space and time made of? Is it washable, or should it be dry cleaned?

All I know is, if I get ketchup on it I'll catch hell from the Wife.


37 posted on 11/24/2010 9:00:38 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Scratch a “progressive” and a fascist bleeds)
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s my understanding that the latest theory is that the universe is a bubble shaped like a mattress, and that it’s one of an infinite number of universes.


38 posted on 11/25/2010 7:06:12 AM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: onedoug
[Why can´t we sample this ¨dark energy¨ directly as it´s supposed to be everywhere?]
 
Maybe because it's not uniformly distributed.   Think of the way salt crystals form within a solution, for example.   The energy constituting the universe is similarly lumpy -   both visible and not-so-visible.
 
That hypothesized invisible lumpiness is consistent with observable evidence for dark matter/energy ala gravitational lensing.
 
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=gravitational+lensing+dark+matter
 
 
Consider also the issue of a conception of "dark matter" as being in a form equivalent to the matter we're used to interacting with. It's not.
 
Dark Mass would be more accurate than dark matter.
 
Presuming that matter is merely energy in a locally organized state, we can explain "dark" matter as localized energy where E is insufficient to manifest the strong forces required to form "normal" visible matter - but where the Mass associated with E is still present nonetheless.
 
Thus the effect of gravitational lensing produced by Mass that is essentially invisible.
 
 

39 posted on 11/25/2010 7:29:01 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Moreover, the method - developed by revisiting a 30-year-old idea - confirms that "dark energy" makes up nearly three-quarters of the Universe.

So that's where my car keys went...
40 posted on 11/26/2010 2:50:17 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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