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Media Lies About Sarah Palin Korea Comments (Global Hit on Palin)
Thursday, November 25, 2010 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/25/2010 8:41:56 AM PST by kristinn

A hit piece by a liberal blogger about a slip of the tongue by Sarah Palin regarding the crisis on the Korean peninsula has become an international news story that is being spun to impugn Palin's credibility as a potential presidential candidate.

Palin has been dishonestly quoted out of context in dozens of articles and broadcast reports as saying on the Glenn Beck radio show on Wednesday, "We gotta stand with our North Korean allies."

Here, in context, is what Palin actually said (transcription by Kristinn):

Glen Beck: "Sarah you said, you said in the last few days that you are considering a run for president. And uh, polls show that you would probably win the Republican nomination. How would you handle a situation like just developed in, in North Korea?"

Palin: "Well, North Korea, this is stemming from I think a greater problem when we're all sittin' around asking, "Oh no, what are we gonna do?" and we're not having a lot of faith that the White House is gonna come out with a strong enough policy to, um, sanction what it is that North Korea is gonna do. So this speaks to a bigger picture here that certainly scares me in terms our national security policies. But obviously, gotta stand with our North Korean allies. We're bound to by, by treaty."

Beck: "South Korea."

Palin: "We're also bound by, yeah, we're also bound by prudence to stand with our, our South Korean allies. Yes. And, uh, you know to remind North Korea, well, we're not gonna reward bad behavior and we're not gonna walk away. And we do need to press China to do more to increase the pressure on North Korea."

The smear started with liberal blogger Oliver Willis who posted an entry with the title, AUDIO: Sarah Palin: "We Gotta Stand With Our North Korean Allies. The blog post did not transcribe Palin's interview with Beck, it just had a snarky comment, "Genius. Absolute genius. When Glenn Beck is correcting you on foreign policy, well… genius."

Willis included the audio clip in his post which this transcription is based on. As can be seen, it was a simple slip of the tongue. But, because of how Willis disingenuously framed it, the slip has become "truth" to once again be used to smear Palin as ignorant of foreign affairs.

The hit piece was picked up by Mediaite, a site founded by former MSNBCer Dan Abrams, which titled their hit piece, Sarah Palin - North Korean Allies.

Mediaite also posted the audio clip. But even with the evidence that the comment was clearly a slip of the tongue, Mediaite smeared Palin as ignorant by quoting her out of context rather than publishing the entire exchange with Beck.

For good measure, Mediaite brought back a previous smear of Palin that claimed in 2008 when she was selected to be John McCain's running mate she did not know Korea was divided between North and South.

The Weekly Standard came to Palin's defense last night with a piece that chided her critics for the smear.

That did not stop the smear from going global, however. A Google News search shows nearly one hundred articles accusing Palin of not knowing that South Korea is our ally.

Wire services, broadcast networks and newspapers across America and the globe have gleefully picked up the smear.

The BBC piled on today with an article that said, "Her slip of the tongue over North Korea will provide more ammunition for critics who say she doesn't have sufficient knowledge or experience for high office."

The Times of India headlined their article, Sarah Palin's Latest Verbal Gaffe - North Korea an Ally.

It is a testament to Palin's global reach and influence that such a simple slip would garner worldwide headlines and be used by her enemies here and abroad to smear her.

However, the truth must be told and the media once more shamed for their duplicitious reporting.


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KEYWORDS: enemedia; glennbeck; mediabias; northkorea; sarahpalin
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To: kristinn

With Obama as president North Korea is our ally.


151 posted on 11/25/2010 11:40:06 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SeattleBruce
That said, we must defend Sarah Palin...

Why "must" we defend her? She's a big girl who claims she can beat the incumbent president. If she wants to take on the biggest job in the world, she need to prove to us that she's capable and up for it. It's up to her to defend herself by acquiring the knowledge and -- dare I say it -- gravitas for the job.

I won't defend her just because she's a conservative. In fact, just the opposite. I expect more of her; not only her, but any candidate on my side of the political aisle. I want to be proud of them, not run around defending indefensible drivel about a critical foreign policy matter.

It doesn't matter what Obama, Biden, the MSM or anyone else did or said or flubbed up. What matters is that our candidates be far better than the opposition.

152 posted on 11/26/2010 12:37:14 AM PST by Wolfstar
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To: CharlesWayneCT
ON the other hand, don’t we continually bring up his “57 states” quote, and his “muslim faith” quote, even though we know they were both gaffes?

57 states might have been a gaffe, but trust me, the "muslim faith" quote was no gaffe.

153 posted on 11/26/2010 12:52:29 AM PST by library user
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To: Wolfstar

“not run around defending indefensible drivel about a critical foreign policy matter.”

Of course it wasn’t indefensible drivel, Gov. Palin had mentioned SK as our ally 8 seconds prior to misspeaking. She misspoke, big difference.

The truth cant be repeated enough.


154 posted on 11/26/2010 1:40:02 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Mitt Romney....none.)
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To: kristinn

How would you handle a situation like just developed in, in North Korea?

“Well, North Korea, this is stemming from I think a greater problem when we’re all sittin’ around asking, “Oh no, what are we gonna do?” and we’re not having a lot of faith that the White House is gonna come out with a strong enough policy to, um, sanction what it is that North Korea is gonna do. So this speaks to a bigger picture here that certainly scares me in terms our national security policies.
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What the hell kind of answer is that? Putting aside her South/North misspeak, she says she doesn’t have faith that odumbi will be tough enough and that she Palin, is worried. She does not answer this well at all. She needs to understand that its ok to pause a moment and come up with a good answer......

later she does. Putting more pressure on China! Exactly.

The question was what would she do.

A question she knew without a doubt would be coming up!

She needs to practice taking her time. Go ahead baby griz. Crush ‘em, just remember you ain’t gotta crush ‘em all instantly.

PUT PRESSURE ON CHINA. BINGO.


155 posted on 11/26/2010 1:43:14 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; Fred Nerks; null and void; ..
A verbal gaffe does not a crisis make.

Governor Palin has what it takes.

You can be sure of that.

Its up to her to decide whether she should alter her colloquial methods and go over to statesman speak.

You gotta remember , she is sittin' there in Beck's studio bein' just who she is, a self made American, born without a silver spoon in her mouth, just like we need.This is no time to have insecure penchants about elitists who sound good and say only what everyone wants to hear. We are far too used to that.

Could she stare down the North Koreans?

" You Betcha!"

Not only that, she would lay a hurtin' on 'em if they pushed like they just have. She would not call the UN. Thats good enough for me. " Stand with our Allies!"( But Obama , you see wants to redefine and revise history, milions will die as a result, Sarah will not allow it in her goodness.)

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I thought what she said was great, and I loved the way she said it.I certainly won't become an apologist for her quality of speech.LOL. But then, I came up through an environment just like hers, with deer and moose hangin' in the wood shed every fall, pickin' fiddle heads , strawberries, blue berries, raspberries and cranberries, fishing for salmon.That's another world from what most Americans know. And it is a good world. That's what her speech quality reminds me about.Sophisticated America has lost touch with the strength of our land, that good earth beneath our feet.That's part of sophisticated America's burgeoning malaise. It is that strength that makes Sarah Palin almost invulnerable.

She is exactly what priggish, overly sophisticated America needs.And that is why the liberal fascists are scared to death of her. Sarah Palin is just not sophisticated enough for them to destroy her. Sophistication equals attack-ability. They can't get a handle on her and so resort to desperate measures of lying, misquoting, scurrilous attacks on her children. She just breezes right through them.Do you get that part? I think its a riot of mal-attempted defamation.No conservative should fall for it.

This attempted defamatory process is also highly entertaining and most Americans actually have evolved to really love her after being entertained.The more she is attacked, the more her support grows.

The enemies of America have a tremendously skilled and effective adversary in Sarah Palin. If she aces liberal fascists like she has shown us , can you imagine how she would handle bad boys like Kim Jung Un? I would pay to see that. As a matter of fact, I WILL PAY to see that, as much as I can afford to, right into Governor Palin's campaign fund.(I may work for her campaign directly, the resume is in.)

BTW, other rustic figures of America where denigrated in the same way as Sarah is today.. There were several, but Congressman David Crockett comes to mind. How many of us think he would NOT have made a good president? Its really laughable. He would have made a fine president.So will Governor Palin.

156 posted on 11/26/2010 1:54:39 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_ipthe_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

BTW, I do agree,it is indeed time for Sarah Palin to “come out here.”

Yes, she should ba at the DMZ there in Korea, and she will gather a press following as well in doing so.


157 posted on 11/26/2010 1:57:10 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_ipthe_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: kristinn

Gosh! She won this one!

The woman fights!

She knows how to turn a negative/attack into her favor!

She’s becoming a shrewd “spin” tactician!

This is an example why this Palin is really ahead of her contemparies:

SHE FIGHTS!


158 posted on 11/26/2010 2:01:50 AM PST by convertedtoreason ( Nature tells us to take a LIBERTARIAN CONSERVATIVE stance)
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To: rbmillerjr

By “indedfensible drivel,” I was not speaking of her gaffe, but her entire really shallow, amateurish response. She really needs to do a LOT better than that if she’s going to become a serious presidential contender. Why conservatives, of all people, would excuse such shallowness is beyond me. So much is always on the line in every presidential election, but 2012 looks to be extraordinarily critical. I’m waiting for Palin to demonstrate unequivocally that she’s no lightweight. Having conservative views is a good start, but by no means enough. We should be demanding more of all the candidates, not excusing their weaknesses.


159 posted on 11/26/2010 2:15:04 AM PST by Wolfstar
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To: kristinn
I love Sarah, but even without the "North Korean allies" slip, it was a weak, fumbling answer. She has to become -- in very short order -- much sharper on worldwide matters. She`s already in a deficit with voters beyond the conservative base.. slipups like these will dig her deeper.

Of course her heart`s in the right place -- muscular foreign policy and an America that takes second to none -- but she has to do a far better job convincing moderates and indie voters she`s a serious candidate who has the knowledge and understanding of the challenges that will face whomever is our President after 2012.

She needs media training on concise messaging and a crash course on world events in short order. Yes, it`s a horrifically slanted, agenda-driven media... but Sarah has to rise above it and be ready to face it head-on. Fumbles like these -- in a relatively friendly venue, no less -- are only handing her future political opponents free campaign attack ads.

She simply needs to improve her game.

160 posted on 11/26/2010 2:29:24 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: The Bronze Titan
I spit on them and everything they stand for

I get that, but do separate out honest criticism of Gov. Palin`s interview performance and foreign policy knowledge from seditious acts. I`ve defended Sarah and will continue to do so.. but she needs to improve her messaging. By doing so, she`ll make herself a more viable candidate.

161 posted on 11/26/2010 2:36:32 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
she was NOT every eloquent nor specific

Is there a mistake in your words there? You are usually very eloquent and specific - is the reason I ask.
162 posted on 11/26/2010 2:52:15 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
even though we know they were both gaffes?

How so? Did he 'misspeak' because it's not true - or did he tell the hidden truth by 'misspeaking'.
163 posted on 11/26/2010 2:58:45 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: ScottinVA
but she needs to improve her messaging.

Her message is heard loud and clear - so much so - the WORLD listens and responds. Their responses don't have to be accurate but many gobble it up. So much for the gobblers - they are hungry for something - but it's not truth.

By doing so, she`ll make herself a more viable candidate.

Tell us who is a more viable candidate than Sarah.
164 posted on 11/26/2010 3:05:54 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: Spartan79
Too bad the 10,000 people killed by a tornado in the city of Greensburg, Kansas (population 1574) won’t be able to read the refudiation. There weren’t enough corpsemen in the whole state to deal with a tragedy of that magnitude.

Was that one of the villages that got itself air-raided?

165 posted on 11/26/2010 3:41:06 AM PST by FDNYRHEROES (In just His first 3 days, the War on Terror became the War on Free Speech.)
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To: presently no screen name
By doing so, she`ll make herself a more viable candidate.

That's just liberal-speak for "We hate her with all our hearts, but can't find anything of real substance to hold against her"...

166 posted on 11/26/2010 3:45:16 AM PST by FDNYRHEROES (In just His first 3 days, the War on Terror became the War on Free Speech.)
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To: presently no screen name
Tell us who is a more viable candidate than Sarah.

Are you referring to the nomination or general election? She may win the nomination but is at a 15% (36% to 51%) deficit with independents and that will hurt her chances in the general. The conservative base will turn out for her, but we're just simply not strong enough in numbers to carry the day.

As for her messaging, yes, her messages are heard, but when people start really paying attention to the 2012 election, Sarah is going to have be able to present her case in specificity and detail. I completely agree with her stances - support to our allies, staunch support of Israel. But she is going to have to get far more specific about those issues...troop strengths, tactics and strategies.

On the upside, she's stronger on domestic policy, and on energy matters especially; I've seen her on-site interviews with Greta Von Susteren about the ANWR and other Alaskan oil/natural gas production, and she has unmatched expertise in that area. She needs to be able to speak just as comfortably about our Afghan policy, Pakistan, China, Russia, Iran, the Korean peninsula, the Middle East, general GWOT issues, etc.

I'm not down on her -- I want her to succeed and as a 28-year military retiree, would be proud to call her Commander-in-Chief. My point is... to get there, her task is to convince those critical independent voters she is an acceptable alternative to what we have now. We in FR know she is, but it's the American electorate she has to win over. And she's not there, yet.

167 posted on 11/26/2010 3:50:39 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: FDNYRHEROES
That's just liberal-speak for "We hate her with all our hearts, but can't find anything of real substance to hold against her"...

Don't twist my words. I've been an ardent supporter of her from the start. But, feel free to share any current polling data that shows her winning over independents and beating 0bama.

168 posted on 11/26/2010 3:56:22 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: raygunfan

When Obammy’s teleprompter went on the blink and he stammered, stuttered, spit & sputtered, not a PEEP emanated from the libtards. Biden? His gaffes are MONUMENTAL. His outright LIES are equally huge – he left Scranton when he was what – 9 years old and he told dims in NE Pennsylvania “I’m a hard coal miner” and mentioned going to a restaurant that closed long after his mommy & daddy relocated the family out of state. Sarah gets on a roll and has a minor slip & the scumbags salivatingly LEAP to point it out. Meanwhile, hatchet-face Hillary says she’s too good to go through TSA scanners or pat-downs, (who’d WANT to look at or touch that thing anyway?)


169 posted on 11/26/2010 4:40:41 AM PST by Nathaniel (- A Man Without A Cross -)
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To: TomasUSMC

And the follow up should have been - People that are waiting for China to “do something” about NK...like what, exactly? (That’s has been U.S. NK “policy” since 2006!).

Bush eventually handed everything over to the Chinese because the US was too involved in Iraq to take measures effectively after an earlier provocation. Not to mention the War that allowed the Kim regime time to race ahead and actual develop WMDs lest he also get invaded.


170 posted on 11/26/2010 4:41:33 AM PST by erlayman
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To: kristinn

She did not screw up... but obamao has 193,284,627,938,012 times.

LLS


171 posted on 11/26/2010 4:52:07 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: kristinn

They’re trying to frame this as Sarah’s equivalent to Dan Quayle’s “potatoe” moment, in order to make her look stupid.


172 posted on 11/26/2010 5:34:39 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: kristinn
At least she didn't have to ask her Husband, as I did, which Korea is the good guys!

Reason #29 why FreeRepublic is important to me. You could say FR is MY teleprompter, but actually more like a gathering of my mentors.

173 posted on 11/26/2010 5:36:20 AM PST by sweet_diane ("They hate us cause they ain't us" Roll TIDE ROLL!)
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To: Candor7
I was listening to the John Bachalor show a couple of nights ago and one of his "smart, sophisticated guests" was talking about the Korean situation, and made the same slip Sarah did. I am not worried about Sarah.
174 posted on 11/26/2010 6:27:23 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: kristinn

“A Thanksgiving Message to All 57 States”
by Sarah Palin

“My fellow Americans in all 57 states, the time has changed for come. With our country founded more than 20 centuries ago, we have much to celebrate – from the FBI’s 100 days to the reforms that bring greater inefficiencies to our health care system. We know that countries like Europe are willing to stand with us in our fight to halt the rise of privacy, and Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. And let’s face it, everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma and they end up taking up a hospital bed. It costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early, and they got some treatment, and ah, a breathalyzer, or an inhalator. I mean, not a breathalyzer, ah, I don’t know what the term is in Austrian for that…”

http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/a-thanksgiving-message-to-all-57-states/463364218434

There is more at the link.


175 posted on 11/26/2010 7:09:08 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: Wolfstar

“I was not speaking of her gaffe, but her entire really shallow, amateurish response.”

It was a quick radio interview spot, one among about 6 she did in a short time frame. Hardly the place to get into the deep policy statements that you are looking for.

Hell, Romney won’t even talk, let alone criticize Obama, I don’t see anybody critiquing any of the other potential nominees and a lot of double standards toward Palin.

There will be plenty of time to get into more detail on policy as candidates announce.


176 posted on 11/26/2010 7:47:01 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Mitt Romney....none.)
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To: ScottinVA

“She may win the nomination but is at a 15% (36% to 51%) deficit with independents and that will hurt her chances in the general.”

Gov. Palin has tons of time to win over the Independents. You have to win the nomination first. Reagan (not a comparison to Reagan), was in a very similar situation politically with Independents. He was pronounced unelectable, too radical and out of touch.

Independents don’t tune into politics until very late and they are fickle. They voted for Obama in 08, rejected his policies in a massive defection in 2010 midterms.

In 2012, Obama will have a difficult time winning Independents again, because he won’t go to the center like Clinton appeared to do after his beat down.


177 posted on 11/26/2010 8:03:53 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Mitt Romney....none.)
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To: rbmillerjr

Romney doesn’t have the image of being lightly qualified and desperately ambitious. The context doesn’t stick. The answers do. And every time her answers come up shallow it only reinforces the “I can’t see her as president” impression.


178 posted on 11/26/2010 8:18:34 AM PST by erlayman
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To: kristinn

Barack Obama has brought more power into DC than Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson altogether.

You think the MSM shilled for him in 2008? You haven’t seen nothing compared to whats coming.

If DC has ANY say whatsoever..the Rinocratic Oligarchy isn’t going to let their golden boy go anywhere. Neither will they willingly give back ANY power.

We the People have our work cut out. 2008 was a literal drop in the bucket if we intend to have our country back. It will be a multi-election cycle effort that will require well-delineated gains each time. It will start in each of the local election precincts in each state..because the fraud by which Blue-states keep electing Red candidates is rooted in the community.

Most on FreeRepublic can’t begin to imagine the kind of pre-election runup the powers that be are gonna give ‘Bammy...and what’ve you’ve seen dumped on Palin so far...is just a minimum of what’s to come.


179 posted on 11/26/2010 8:19:02 AM PST by mo
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To: erlayman

I don’t accept your premise.


180 posted on 11/26/2010 8:38:39 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Mitt Romney....none.)
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To: erlayman
"Romney doesn’t have the image of being lightly qualified and desperately ambitious."

Because those are exactly the two phrases that instantly come to mind when I think of Romney ... and the Rombots as well ...

181 posted on 11/26/2010 9:10:12 AM PST by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: kristinn

MSM works on the theory that a hollow brain is easy to convince. Unfortunately there are an abundance of hollow brains who vote and they’ll select the candidate the MSM supports. They are no more than the MSM Zombies.


182 posted on 11/26/2010 9:46:42 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (The candidate they smear and ridicule the most is the one they fear the most.)
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To: kristinn

like when she talked about “her Muslim religion”, oh wait that was someone else


183 posted on 11/26/2010 10:03:37 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Wolfstar

“I won’t defend her just because she’s a conservative. In fact, just the opposite. I expect more of her; not only her, but any candidate on my side of the political aisle. I want to be proud of them, not run around defending indefensible drivel about a critical foreign policy matter.

It doesn’t matter what Obama, Biden, the MSM or anyone else did or said or flubbed up. What matters is that our candidates be far better than the opposition.”
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I agree. We want to be proud of strong Conservative spokespeople. Perhaps Sarah will become yet a stronger spokesperson, than she already is, or are you saying she’s not one now just because you’ve got a flub on her (which was apparently her 6th or 7th interview that day?) As to defending Conservatives - I’m not talking about defending her flub up directly, which you call ‘indefensible drivel’. I’m saying when the propagandists want to savage Conservatives, it’s about time we hang tough together - or do you disagree with that also?


184 posted on 11/26/2010 10:59:15 AM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Candor7

Could she stare down the North Koreans?

” You Betcha!”
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I have to say, this cracks me up - in a good way...:)


185 posted on 11/26/2010 11:02:38 AM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Candor7

“But then, I came up through an environment just like hers, with deer and moose hangin’ in the wood shed every fall, pickin’ fiddle heads , strawberries, blue berries, raspberries and cranberries, fishing for salmon.That’s another world from what most Americans know. And it is a good world.”

Many of us who read about American history, read about these things nostagically, and agree with you!


186 posted on 11/26/2010 11:04:46 AM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Candor7

Candor, I must say this is a great defense of Sarah Palin. I am bookmarking for later reference and citing. I don’t know if Sarah Palin with be elected POTUS, but if she gets the Republican nomination, I will be front and center behind her in liberal infested Seattle, WA.


187 posted on 11/26/2010 11:08:53 AM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Candor7

“She is exactly what priggish, overly sophisticated America needs.And that is why the liberal fascists are scared to death of her. Sarah Palin is just not sophisticated enough for them to destroy her. Sophistication equals attack-ability. They can’t get a handle on her and so resort to desperate measures of lying, misquoting, scurrilous attacks on her children. She just breezes right through them.Do you get that part? I think its a riot of mal-attempted defamation.No conservative should fall for it.

This attempted defamatory process is also highly entertaining and most Americans actually have evolved to really love her after being entertained.The more she is attacked, the more her support grows.

The enemies of America have a tremendously skilled and effective adversary in Sarah Palin. If she aces liberal fascists like she has shown us , can you imagine how she would handle bad boys like Kim Jung Un? I would pay to see that. As a matter of fact, I WILL PAY to see that, as much as I can afford to, right into Governor Palin’s campaign fund.(I may work for her campaign directly, the resume is in.)”
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To the degree that this is true, the gaffe issue becomes one of almost a test of whether we’ll defend Palin generally, regardless of whether she takes the nomination. And regardless of any potential nomination Palin is a very important spokesperson for Conservatives and Pro-Lifers specifically, not to mention Conservative Christians. Why would we not want to defend her against unfair attacks from socialists?

I know Conservatives here have strong feelings about Palin one way or the other about this gaffe, its relative importance, or unimportance, and more generally whether it goes to her preparedness for what is arguably the toughest, most important job in the world - POTUS.


188 posted on 11/26/2010 11:39:30 AM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Wolfstar

“I’m waiting for Palin to demonstrate unequivocally that she’s no lightweight. Having conservative views is a good start, but by no means enough. We should be demanding more of all the candidates, not excusing their weaknesses.”

Good points - well stated. I still say we defend Palin against the socialist press, while demanding more (like AiT’s post #14 above, which is great advice and following in Reagan’s footsteps.)


189 posted on 11/26/2010 11:43:46 AM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: ScottinVA

“She`s already in a deficit with voters beyond the conservative base.. slipups like these will dig her deeper.”

Somewhere between 40 and 50% of Americans now self ID as Conservatives, 30 something % as Indies and 19 or 20% as liberals. I think Sarah will continue to strengthen and the liberals will mock her all the way into and through her WH years, should she be elected. We should not worry about liberals. Also Palin does not need to win all Conservatives.

Wonder if Palin would run on a DeMint ticket as Veep? Or other way around?


190 posted on 11/26/2010 11:46:40 AM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: presently no screen name

“Tell us who is a more viable candidate than Sarah.”

I think a Jim DeMint/Marco Rubio ticket would be very strong and excite the Tea Party. I’d also like to See Palin/DeMint, DeMint/Palin (don’t know how willing either would be up or down ticket on that.)


191 posted on 11/26/2010 11:51:51 AM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: FDNYRHEROES; ScottinVA; presently no screen name

‘By doing so, she`ll make herself a more viable candidate.’

“That’s just liberal-speak for “We hate her with all our hearts, but can’t find anything of real substance to hold against her”...”
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Or, it could just be constructive criticism, right? That is allowed in this discussion, is it not? I hardly think you can accuse ScottinVA of liberal-speak when he generally defends Gov. Palin (as do I). However when AiT (post #14) and ScottinVA make comments with the sincere desire to see Sarah Palin grow in stature, there is nothing in the world wrong with that, and it’s not worthy of labeling and chiding them for it, imho. Best to you there.


192 posted on 11/26/2010 11:57:58 AM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Nathaniel

“His (Biden’s) outright LIES are equally huge”

Let’s not forget how he completely plagiarized an entire speech from some UK politician. Yet somehow he has respect and brings gravitas to Obama’s ticket in 2008? How do such things happen? (Answer: socialist press with an agenda.)


193 posted on 11/26/2010 12:09:42 PM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: erlayman
“Bush eventually handed everything over to the Chinese because the US was too involved in Iraq to take measures effectively after an earlier provocation. Not to mention the War that allowed the Kim regime time to race ahead and actual develop WMDs lest he also get invaded.”

You may be correct in evaluating the end of the Bush approach to NK, however don't forget Bush elevated the NK problem by including them in his axis of evil speech, which not appears pretty accurate and salient.

194 posted on 11/26/2010 12:13:20 PM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: PapaBear3625

“They’re trying to frame this as Sarah’s equivalent to Dan Quayle’s “potatoe” moment, in order to make her look stupid.”

We need to make sure that that rubbish doesn’t work any more, not just for Gov. Palin’s sake, but for all Conservatives. Thus my theory as to why we ‘must’ defend her on this. It’s not just about Gov. Palin, of course. It’s about hanging together as Conservatives.


195 posted on 11/26/2010 12:16:12 PM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: rbmillerjr

“Hell, Romney won’t even talk, let alone criticize Obama, I don’t see anybody critiquing any of the other potential nominees and a lot of double standards toward Palin.

There will be plenty of time to get into more detail on policy as candidates announce.”
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Good points.


196 posted on 11/26/2010 12:19:04 PM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: ScottinVA
By doing so, she`ll make herself a more viable candidate.

Those are your words, not mine. Tell me, right now who is a more viable candidate than Sarah?
197 posted on 11/26/2010 12:20:27 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The Muslims Faith comment isn’t a mistake. He was born Muslim and raised Muslim for years, before becoming a Christian at that Black Supremacist Church. It was a Freudian slip.


198 posted on 11/26/2010 12:21:15 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: erlayman

“And every time her answers come up shallow it only reinforces the “I can’t see her as president” impression.”

People voted ‘impression’ in 2008. With the EPIC FAIL in the WH and former Congress, they will continue to vote their pocketbooks and for their kids’ futures (that is to say against the debt insanity of the RATS) in 2012. If Palin wins the nomination, and especially in that context, she will be fine. As Pres. George HW Bush said, ‘it’s the economy stupid.’ I quote that with no disrespect.


199 posted on 11/26/2010 12:21:46 PM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: ScottinVA

“But, feel free to share any current polling data that shows her winning over independents and beating 0bama.”
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Hey Scott, I wanted to share this polling.

Obama’s poll numbers point to his defeat in 2012
http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2010/11/obamas-poll-numbers-point-his-defeat-2012

Especially important I think is this part, “And that includes conservatives, of whom there are more every day. Gallup has found that the number of people who call themselves conservative has gone up sharply since 2008, “fueled by heightened conservatism among independents”, which partially addresses your concern about Palin’s numbers among Indies. Also keep in mind that 2012 will be a continuing referendum on the EPIC FAIL of the economy, which failure on obummer’s part does not show signs of abating.


200 posted on 11/26/2010 12:29:30 PM PST by SeattleBruce (We voted - NOW we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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