Jared Loughner's behavior never reported to mental health authorities (What did the sheriff know?)

washington post ^ | 1/10/2011 | By Brigid Schulte

[VeniVidiVici]

You have no idea how many of SMI people like these are out on the streets because of lack of funding to Mental Health Clinics.

True. However, I don't think an Involuntary Commitment for Evaluation is affected by this as it is for a very short period of time. So far the evidence says that Loughner was never even in the system.

There is a lack of funding of public Mental Health facilities. However, I would imagine most, if not all, evaluations are done via private clinics who then bill the state. Another reason why Loughner would have been seen had an Involuntary Committal ever been done.

Let me throw you a curve. We all know there is no shortage of mental health facilities that are funded by private dollars to include insurance dollars. Loughner was, what, 22? If we even assume for a minute that his dad was unemployed, rumor is that his mom was a public employee. So the family had health insurance. Obamacare new rules say that junior should have been covered to age 26, student or not.

JUNIOR HAD INSURANCE!!

[steve7]

Would this Sheriff's Dept. have to sign off on the application for the handgun that he purchased? If so, who signed it?

[tobyhill]

The sheriff already let the cat out of the bag when he admitted he knew of previous “threats to others” and that Loughner was mentally unstable.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

It was stated earlier the sheriff told the people who were threatened by this POS that the mental health authorities were on it and further action was not needed.....did he just flat out lie?

Well, he is a cop, after all.

[Grampa Dave]

In California, the Sheriff apparently signs for a gun purchase and C&C permit.

Each state may be different.

[panthermom]

The police were called to remove him from campus 5 times!!! So they did have contact with him and if he was having a psychotic episode in the classroom surely the police witnessed it and there are police reports.

[tobyhill]

“Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County. Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation.”

Sounds like the sheriff has blood on his hands.

[SatinDoll]

Very good, Luke!

It has been posted on FR that Jared’s dad, Randy Loughner, works for the State of Arizona’s Child Protective Services.

(I do not know if this is a fact.)

This would certainly explain why the Sheriff would be under the impression Jared was being treated, something we may find out is not true.

[panthermom]

They pulled the FB right away....there is no way in the world he did not have a FB acct. You will be able to see his “likes”.

[pyx]

If Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik claims he did not know about the law for Involuntary Commitment for psychological reasons, he could have consulted Wikipedia. It says,

QUOTE Involuntary commitment is the practice of placing a person to a psychiatric hospital or ward against his or her will, in compliance with mental health laws ...

Commonly, the commitment process begins when a law enforcement officer...

A common reason given for involuntary commitment is to prevent danger to the individual or society. UNQUOTE

Since the law for Involuntary Commitment for psychological reasons is so straightforward, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik should have had Jared Loughner committed after Jared Loughner made death threats both at school and to others around him.

If Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik had actually done his normal job, six humans beings, including a Federal Judge and a 9 year old child would still be alive and a US Congresswoman would not be fighting for her life. Another 14 people would not have been wounded.

Why did Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik refuse to perform his responsibilities ?

[Hunton Peck]

What the lying fool sheriff does know, he isn’t saying, because his lawyers told him not to. The multitude of things he doesn’t know, like whether the nutjob shooter ever listened to talk radio, he won’t shut up about.

[Hunton Peck]

Megyn Kelly shredded Dupnik's fabrications and exposed his malfeasance in this interview: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/america-live/index.html#/v/4490428/did-vitriol-on-airwaves-trigger-arizona-attack/?playlist_id=87651

[Gator113]

People died ..... Sheriff Dupnik lied.

[CajunConservative]

When the college kicked him out he and his parents were told not to step foot on campus without documentation from mental health that he was no longer a danger to himself or others.

The dipshit sheriff said himself that he had made several death threats so somebody dropped the ball big time.

[savage woman]

At some point these parents should be coming forward to apologize for their son’s behavior!!!??? That is usually the correct and heartfelt thing to do. But, so far there are no interviews with them. I think they will be kept
hidden for awhile, because they know what troubles they have had with the mental health system. The ACLU allows
people to get out after 72 hours and they never really
get the help that they need. Because these nut cases think
nothing is wrong with “them” - it’s everybody else in the world that has the problem. It’s a catch 22.

[Todddives02]

I agree, and don’t hold ANY confidence in a law enforcement officer that publicly states he will not uphold the law.
The point being if this man is culpable to this assasination attempt the full fury of the law should be TARGETED (yes, TARGETED) at him, even more because he is a law enforcement officer.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

Is the Sheriff a Friend or Relative of the family?

Wasn’t his mother a county employee?

Is the stupid Sheriff the father of the gay psycho?

[publana]

Because these nut cases think nothing is wrong with “them” - it’s everybody else in the world that has the problem.

If the patient receives good medical care, has a good support system, and wants to be well, he is taught how to recognize the signs of oncoming mental illness, how to avoid triggers, how to care for oneself, etc.

[ArmyTeach]

Well, the kid was kicked out of his college algebra class for his bizarre behavior early in the semester and subsequently kicked off campus and told that he could not return until he received psychiatric evaluation. Did I get that info right? But unfortunately it did not go any further.

[seekthetruth]

“Sounds like the sheriff has blood on his hands.”

Yes, especially if it is true that he ignored the previous threats that folks received from the killer and did NOTHING!

I hope this is fully investigated and that those who received threats come forward! Instead of talking about gun control and stopping free speech, they need to talk about why the Sheriff didn’t pick this guy up after he threatened people!