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Why libs are lovin' the birthers: Is The Donald a secret agent for the Dems? (Clarence spins it)
The Chicago Tribune ^ | March 30, 2011 | Clarence Page

Posted on 03/29/2011 7:05:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Donald Trump has joined the "birthers," the odd movement that questions President Barack Obama's Hawaii birth certificate. That's a good way for the celebrity billionaire to appear as though he's making a serious run for the Republican presidential nomination, which he says he is considering. It also makes him sound like a secret agent for the Democrats.

That oddly credible possibility has been raised by frustrated conservatives like radio talk-show host John Gibson, who sounded furious earlier this week at the way birthers make Republicans look like the crazy party.

That unfortunate image only hurts the party's chances with the sensible independent swing voters it needs to win general elections. Now Trump is bringing even more attention to the birthers. Surely, Gibson speculated, tongue only partly in cheek, Trump sounds like some sort of RINO, a Republican-in-name-only who's secretly trying to help Obama.

Robert Schlesinger, opinion editor at U.S. News and World Report, similarly asked in a blog whether Trump is "really an Obama sleeper agent."

Indeed, if Obama is not directly supporting Trump, he has good reason to root secretly for the birther movement, whose backing Trump seeks....

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; democrats; donaldtrump; naturalborncitizen; obama; pawlenty; secretagent; trump
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
... oddly credible...

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Oddly credible?

How about realistically credible.

Repeal Obama!

Marxist Barry could care less about anything constitutional.

Clueless Obama-1sm

41 posted on 03/29/2011 7:59:00 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Defend Liberty
If this is true, then by their line of reasoning, the socialists should be more than happy to maximize their advantage by discussing the issue 24/7.

Um, they are. How many times in the past few weeks have you seen stories about Trump and birthers? Quite a lot.

Here's a tip: Trump is no conservative and he's bringing up this birther stuff to make conservatives look bad and to divert attention from Obama's failures and the proven ideas of conservatism. Obama has too many other weaknesses we need to concentrate on.

42 posted on 03/29/2011 8:03:58 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Expecting a President to have a valid birth certificate is so extreme.”

No, no, no, not ‘extreme’— ‘racist’. I read that on HuffPo today—that it’s racist to want to see Obama’s BC—so it must be true...right?

(Btw, the posters on the HuffPo Trump BC thread make even DUers look sane and rational. I kid you not.)


43 posted on 03/29/2011 8:08:37 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: yarddog

I’m Duncan McCleod. Same clan, different vintage...

There can be only one!


44 posted on 03/29/2011 8:09:23 PM PDT by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are terrified. I have to produce my BC. Why can’t he produce his BC. A simple question that will resonate with everyone.


45 posted on 03/29/2011 8:13:04 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Minn
I think the best evidence suggests that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom at the White House he is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

46 posted on 03/29/2011 8:13:09 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: crz

“Posted on 31...”

Why is it that you are unable to post a source for your assertion that there was a travel ban on US citizens traveling to Pakistan in 1981?

I wonder why?


47 posted on 03/29/2011 8:16:13 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Why doesn’t Obama just show his birth certificate. They just can’t seem to get their head around that one.

Whether you can "get your head around this" or not, there are 2 perfectly good reasons Obama doesn't release his birth certificate. The first is he is under no legal obligation to. No court has demanded it. But the primary reason is, the people demanding his BC are his political enemy, many of whom want his political scalp. If I were in his position, I would be disinclined to voluntarily provide evidence to my political opponents whose publicly stated purpose is my removal from office.

48 posted on 03/29/2011 8:16:36 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

RE: Trump

He also contributed to McCain, but this just shows lack of principles, IMHO:

TRUMP, DONALD JR
NEW YORK, NY 10069
THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION/EXECUTIVE VI SCHUMER, CHARLES E (D)
Senate - NY
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER $1,000
primary 04/07/10
Trump, Donald J.
New York, NY 10022
Trump Organization/Real Estate Deve WEINER, ANTHONY D MR (D)
House (NY 09)
FRIENDS OF WEINER $2,000
primary 02/18/10
TRUMP, DONALD J
NEW YORK, NY 10022
TRUMP ORGANIZATION/CEO SCHUMER, CHARLES E (D)
Senate - NY
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER $400
primary 12/11/09
TRUMP, DONALD J
NEW YORK, NY 10022
TRUMP ORGANIZATION/CEO SCHUMER, CHARLES E (D)
Senate - NY
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER $1,600
general 12/11/09
Trump, Donald J.
New York, NY 10022 CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM (D)
President
HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT $-2,300
general 11/10/09
Trump, Donald J.
New York, NY 10022 CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM (D)
President
HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT $-1,700
general 11/09/09
TRUMP, DONALD J
NEW YORK, NY 10022
TRUMP ORGANIZATION/REAL ESTATE DEVE CRIST, CHARLIE (NNE)
Senate - FL
CHARLIE CRIST FOR US SENATE $2,400
primary 10/16/09
TRUMP, DONALD J
NEW YORK, NY 10022
TRUMP ORGANIZATION/REAL ESTATE DEVE CRIST, CHARLIE (NNE)
Senate - FL
CHARLIE CRIST FOR US SENATE $2,400
general 10/16/09
Trump, Donald J.
New York, NY 10022
Trump Organization/Owner MALONEY, CAROLYN B (D)
House (NY 14)
MALONEY FOR CONGRESS $1,000
primary 08/18/09
TRUMP, DONALD J
NEW YORK, NY 10022
THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION/PRESIDENT NELSON, BILL (D)
Senate - FL
BILL NELSON FOR U S SENATE $2,000
primary 08/11/09
TRUMP, DONALD J
NEW YORK, NY 10022
TRUMP ORGANIZATION/CEO SCHUMER, CHARLES E (D)
Senate - NY
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER $2,000
primary 05/20/09
TRUMP, DONALD J
NEW YORK, NY 10022
TRUMP ORGANIZATION/EXECUTIVE REID, HARRY (D)
Senate - NV
FRIENDS FOR HARRY REID $2,400
primary 03/26/09
Trump, Donald J. Jr.
New York, NY 10019 CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM (D)
President
HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT $-1,700
general


49 posted on 03/29/2011 8:18:02 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: dynachrome

Hillary Clinton on his list. No surprise there.


50 posted on 03/29/2011 8:21:15 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: dynachrome

Interesting list of donations there. Looks like Trump’s putting up an awefully large amount of support to commies.


51 posted on 03/29/2011 8:27:18 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: WPaCon

Great Post!

Where do I get one?

Are these what we will use after Niburu passes?


52 posted on 03/29/2011 8:29:56 PM PDT by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: trumandogz

Posted on 31.


53 posted on 03/29/2011 8:32:40 PM PDT by crz
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To: Dryman
Great Post!

Thank you!

Where do I get one?

Since this is our world now, I expect more to come into production soon, but in the meantime google images is the place to look.

Are these what we will use after Niburu passes?

LOL

54 posted on 03/29/2011 8:33:21 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: Vendome
Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936...

Except that he wasn't. McCain was born in a civilian hospital in the Republic of Panama.

55 posted on 03/29/2011 8:37:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: crz

“Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.”

What is your source for this claim?


56 posted on 03/29/2011 8:37:10 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: WPaCon; All
"The rational people are the ones who would let any old Barack become president...."


57 posted on 03/29/2011 8:38:39 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Thanks for putting your refutation in your profile. :-)

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Rumor: Americans could not travel to Pakistan in 1981.
Truth: The U.S. Department of State issued Travel Advisory No. 81-33A for Americans traveling to Pakistan in 1981.

Before traveling to Pakistan, American Citizens should be aware of the following updated visa requirements: 30 day visas are available at Pakistani airports for tourists only. As these visas are rarely extended beyond the 30 day time per visa. Tourists planning to stay longer should secure visas before coming to Pakistan. Any traveler coming into Pakistan overland from India must, repeat must, have a valid visa, as 30 day visas are not, repeat not, issued at the overland border crossing point at Wagha.


58 posted on 03/29/2011 8:39:32 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: crz
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

The "don't travel" list is published by the State Department as a precaution for U.S. citizens traveling to specified countries. It is not a prohibition against traveling to those countries. The traveler assumes his/her own risk if he/she travels there after being warned not to. The U.S. does not have agents at the Pakistani border confiscating passports of U.S. citizens trying to enter that country. That would be absurd.

The U.S. government cannot tell you where you can and cannot go on its passport. It is up to the countries you are visiting to give permission, issue visas, define terms of stay, or deny entry. If Pakistan says you can't enter on a U.S. passport, that is up to them.

As I understand it, the U.S. cannot prevent people from traveling to other countries using its passport. Indeed, the U.S. passport is a request by the U.S. State Department to allow passage to the bearer of the passport.

The country you are traveling to, in this case, Pakistan, is the one that allows or denies entry.

If someone attempted to enter Pakistan (even at that time) with a U.S. passport, the U.S. State Department could do nothing, other than say, "we warned you not to go there." There is nothing on the passport that says "this passport is invalid if one attempts to enter the following countries..."

Could Barack Obama have traveled to Pakistan on a U.S. passport? Yes, but it would have been unwise. It would not have been impossible.

Perhaps it would have been easier for him to use a passport from a Muslim country such as Indonesia, and considering his propensity for laziness, cutting corners, expediency, and deceptiveness, I wouldn't be surprised if that is what he did.

59 posted on 03/29/2011 8:40:42 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: EternalVigilance

Yep.

Moot point now and he has shown himself to be a buttboy who regularly preens for Mubarak Obama.


60 posted on 03/29/2011 8:40:52 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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