Posted on 04/05/2011 10:42:27 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
I know this video is several years old, but people need to know that the govt is ready and willing to take your rights away.
This abomination can never happen again.
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So the NRA is FINALLY going to press this disgrace??? I lost all respect for Jindal when he didn’t make this a top priority item after his election.
Apparently some of the bro’ cops who stole Cadillacs after the hurricane wanted new shooters to go with their new rides!!! This was the PERFECT time for actual American citizens to rise up and shoot a few of the thug “police” attempting to steal their weapons. We must not allow this sort of contempt for our rights just because someone wears a badge.
“This was the PERFECT time for actual American citizens to rise up and shoot a few of the thug “police” attempting to steal their weapons.”
Sorry but there is no perfect time to start shooting cops, unless of coarse you have a serious death wish or a gang that is better armed and organized than the cops. You may get one or two of them but I guarantee they will hunt you down and kill you. New Orleans cops may be thugs and lawless but they are the best organized and equipped gang out there and just like any other gang they will come after anybody that goes after one of their members. They also have the added advantage of not having to worry about being arrested after filling you full of .40 inch holes.
There needs to be more accountability for when cops do lawless things like they did after Katrina and certainly for the Mayor Chocolate for ordering the seizure of guns from citizens. But as bad as the current cops are they are pussy cats compared to what’s happening in Mexico where law and order have broken down and drug cartels rule the land.
>>As others have speculated, the most likely scenario is that the gun grabbers will push the issue as far as they can go and then change over to an ‘Emergency Powers’ regime to complete the task of disarming their enemies.
Registration is their Holy Grail, but just having federal control of all gun sales would have them sitting pretty.<<
That is exactly why I have been preaching for the last decade about how important it is to know where your Mayor, Chief of Police, a few senior FBI, DEA, BATFE agents live. You need their home address. If they ever order violence against us or demand we surrender our 2nd Amendment RIGHTS then stick a bullet through their front door or the kitchen window and I’ll guarantee you that their dinner conversation that evening will be very exhilarating.
A single .22 bullet into their residence will provoke a one sided conversation the likes of which I am sure they have never experienced in their lives.
Don’t go after the dog on the street wearing the badge and gun. Go after his executive level boss who made the decision that citizens aren’t worthy of rights.
So how do we the people attain more accountability for when cops do lawless things, like shooting innocent unarmed people in the head or back? How do we the people hold them accountable when they shoot our pets, throw paraplegics out of their wheelchairs on the floor, or just plain beat the crap out of people when they get po’d? They may look like pussycats to you now, but in time they will look more and more like the riffraff in Mexico.
“They may look like pussycats to you now, but in time they will look more and more like the riffraff in Mexico.”
Compared to the daily beheadings that are going on in Mexico they are pussycats. That being said I think that there needs to be some kind of independent organization that reviews cop shootings at the State level and has the power of arrest and prosecution of cops that do these types of things. It is obvious that the “internal affairs” departments in all police organizations should be relabeled as “internal coverups for bad cops” department since they all rubber stamp any and all cop killings as “justified”. Also the local prosecutors are loath to actually bring up charges and aggressively prosecute them so you would need to set up a separate system that only dealt with cops, judges and prosecutors that is also accountable to the people. Good luck getting something like that implemented though.
The only other thing that you can do is sue in Federal court. Not as satisfying as seeing the cops do the perp walk but at least you’re alive which beats being dead by a long shot.
“Compared to the daily beheadings that are going on in Mexico they are pussycats”
My point is that they are very close, to being just as ruthless as their Mexican counterparts if not there already. Right now, every thing is in their favor, but with the event of a Katrina like situation occuring but on a much larger scale they will turn just as ugly as their Mexican partners in crime. They are killing for sport now IMHO. So what do we the people do? Just Asking??
“They are killing for sport now IMHO. So what do we the people do? Just Asking??”
There are MAYBE one or two cops that MIGHT be killing for sport. Most of them are not, they are simply a product of their training which is “officer safety is job one”. They are trained to be quick on the trigger with no hesitation, kind of like the army trains soldiers for battle. This is all because of the war on drugs which has been used as an excuse to militarize our police, that plus unions and a pervasive “us against them” attitude where cops view ordinary citizens as “them” and lump us in with the criminals makes cops very deadly if you make them nervous.
Cops right now are kind of like women, you can’t live with them but you can’t live without them ;). They are a pain in the butt but they are also necessary for civilized society. I think that you have a perception problem if you think that they are anywhere near like the Mexican drug cartels and would suggest that you get out a smell the flowers or something to try to get some perspective on things. The real problem is that there is no accountability for the actions of cops and until that changes there will be no real change in what is going on.
Nazi Germany would have been a good example of when it would make sense to start shooting back, if you were a Jew it would not make much difference and you would only be choosing the time and method of your demise. I don’t see that we are anywhere close to that kind of situation because as I said before if you shoot a cop you ARE going to die (or if you’re lucky you’ll just spend the rest of your life in prison).
[...] accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. - Declaration of Independence
I don't know.
“Are we ever going to stand up and take control again?”
The only way to “take control” is to win in the political arena. If you don’t like what’s going on then get out and run for office, hell even dog catcher (if they have and election for that) can help influence public policy. The days that a rebel fraction could win against a modern state are long since past (the Civil War proved that one so let’s move on). A popular non-violent uprising similar to what happened in Russia might work but I’m not sure that you’ll be any better off (just look at Russia today).
Face it, the majority have spoken, this is what they want, if you can’t convince them to change in a peaceful manner then forget it and move to some place that you like better. If there is no place better then just continue to agitate for change in the political sphere, it can be done, it just takes a bit more work than these odd phantasies that people have of reliving the American Revolution in modern times.
“Sorry but there is no perfect time to start shooting cops, unless of coarse you have a serious death wish or a gang that is better armed and organized than the cops.”
Which is what happened during Katrina. The sheriffs of two counties kept the thug cops out of their counties.
It’s a very good idea to elect a constitutional sheriff in your county. Then form up an armed volunteer auxiliary deputy force for “emergencies.”
We elected one of these constitutional sheriffs in my county. An elected sheriff accountable to the people via the ballot box is the only proper peace officer for a free people.
This is all because of the war on drugs which has been used as an excuse to militarize our police, that plus unions and a pervasive “us against them” attitude where cops view ordinary citizens as “them” and lump us in with the criminals makes cops very deadly if you make them nervous.
Exactly, like the cops in Mexico?! Look, whether it’s one or 21 killed, cops killing innocent unarmed citizens as they have done numerous times should not be tolerated, period. And as long as these atrocities are allowed to continue it will get progressively worse. How many were killed at WACO? Ruby Ridge? How many were involed in the murder of Gordon Kahl? Where do you think these directives come from? Every time I see the video of Katrina I get angry
and I think you should too! The way I see it is some folks like you are willing to accept it and some like me are not willing to.
Cops don’t prevent crime, they do follow ups and make out reports after the fact and don’t even like to do much of that any more either. The way I see it is they are the parasites! I don’t think there is a garden big enough anywhere to cause me to think differently of them or what their agenda is all about. But I’m just a woman, who thinks that it is past time to put a stop to their criminal behaviours against the good citizens who pay their damn wages.
“Every time I see the video of Katrina I get angry
and I think you should too! The way I see it is some folks like you are willing to accept it and some like me are not willing to.”
Yep I get angry but there is NO excuse for violence. Look at what happened after Katrina, the Chocolate Mayor was re-elected by the people that had this happen to them. That tells me that the majority of people agreed with what was done and fully supported it. If your rights have been violated then sue the pants off of them in Federal court. And above all MOVE, get the heck out of New Orleans (or any major city) if you can. If you can’t afford to, well not much you can do but vote against them and keep your head down. Life isn’t fair and most times the bad guy wins, that sucks but that’s the way it is.
Seriously though, think about it. Human nature doesn’t change so you can change out the current a$$h###s for new ones but you still have a bunch of a$$h###s in charge as there is an unlimited supply of them. Cops are needed to keep the barbarians at the gate from over-running society. They need more accountability and we should be pushing for that not obsessing about Waco or Ruby Ridge which just makes you sound crazy and allows those in power to dismiss you out of hand.
“Which is what happened during Katrina. The sheriffs of two counties kept the thug cops out of their counties.”
Good for you. It always amazes me how willing people are to put up with the corruption that infests most major cities. They can see it, they are victims of it but they turn right around and vote those same people in time after time. New Orleans, Chicago, New York, the list goes on and on. You would think that the voters would rise up and throw out the corrupt bastards but they never do. They just keep pulling the lever with the (D) and then go collect their welfare check.
I'll admit I've been tempted to, though I am somewhat reluctant because a) I have little to no experience in management and b) I have a fairly low BS {read "playing 'politics'"} tolerance; on the plus-side I do have a plan for if I were Governor.
“officer safety is job one”
Is the problem. I can think of many scenarios where the safety of others might preclude my doing the best thing for myself. I pray this may not ever occur, but it is still drilled into me, and I hope I would not fail it.
“on the plus-side I do have a plan for if I were Governor.”
Don’t we all, ah if I were King then things would get set right! I probably would make a total mess of it, but I don’t have the personality for public office either. I’ve known a few people that have run for public office and winning has nothing to do with personality. It’s all about money and getting out the vote, if you’re an insider your party (repub or dem) can provide an amazing amount of resources, the most important being “boots on the ground” that get those voters to either send in the ballot or get to the voting booth. Without that you’re fighting an uphill battle that only money or celebrity can overcome.
It pays to got to the party functions and make contacts because if they like you they can get you that leg up that you’ll need.
“Yep I get angry but there is no excuse for violence.”
I respect your opinion but I strongly disagree with it. You must have had a very sheltered life. The truth is violence is sometimes necessary and to varying degrees. I don’t like it but I’m not affraid of it either.
As for me sounding crazy to those in power obsessing about WACO and Ruby Ridge and dismissing me, you think it more favorable to ignore it and gain their favor? I think not!! Not that you could anyway. I’d rather sound crazy to murdering b@sturds and take a stand for what is right than live my life with my head down in shame. I agree with you though that human nature does not change and that we will always have riffraff among us, but tolerating and ignoring their actions is not a solution. The bad guy does not always win!
As for moving out to the country, I did that a long time ago.
” a gang that is better armed and organized than the cops.”
You hit the target with this statement. That is why patriots need to get to work and create a “gang” that’s better armed and organized than cops.
The “gang” that patriots need is an elected constitutional sheriff. If you look at our founding, patriots organized “committees of safety” (sheriffs and deputies) to take on the Tory thugs. We need to do the same.
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