Posted on 04/08/2011 6:40:46 AM PDT by marktwain
As you know, you cant buy a gun without a dealer punching your particulars into the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). The good folks at the FBI run the system. If the federal government shuts down, its entirely possible that the NICS system will go dark. No NICS, no gun sales. Can you say backlog? Weve contacted the feds and gun dealers to see whether or not were scare mongering. Theyve know NUTH-THINK! Meanwhile, ABC News reports that most federal law enforcement agenciesincluding the FBI and ATFhave been classified as essential serviceswhich would not be suspended during a possible shutdown. So maybe were being a little alarmist, just to help Daves Guns. Check here for updates.
It is crazy to set up a huge expensive bureaucratic system, require everyone to jump though hoops and prove that they are *not* criminals in order to try, ineffectively, to prevent the few individuals who are not responsible, from having legal access to guns. This is a failed paradigm, and it should be abandoned.
To accept the idea that the all gun sales should be monitored by the government, and only allowed to those it deems satisfactory is fundamentally wrong. The entire idea of the enterprise has always been the death of a thousand cuts, where the restrictions on who can buy, and where, and how and what are continually increased until the number of gun owners is reduced to political insignificance.
Whenever this phrase is employed, it always makes one wonder why the "non-essential" services are still being funded.
"Will Government Shut Down Shut Down Gun Sales?"
So, step right up n'git'cher guns.
"Will Government Shut Down Shut Down Gun Sales?"
So, step right up n'git'cher guns.
Yeah, but what happens when a double negative gets posted twice?!?! ;-)
Does that answer the question?
I finally took the plunge 2 weeks ago for my Rock River AR. Glad I got it in time. Sweet deal too, midlength A4 for under $900
Double Positive.
And we have private sales and gun shows for those who don't have a CHL.
I think the background check laws have a provision that if the background check isn’t completed in a certain time period (I think it’s three days), then the sale is allowed without the check.
Is that like ‘doubleplusgood’?
Rules say no response within a certain time, I think it's 72 hours, is an approval. Joke's on them, not the good guys.
Here in NC, pretty much any sort of handgun exchange requires a permit or concealed carry license. You can’t even inherit a handgun without getting a permit for it.
This took effect in 1995, iirc. Fortunately my father gave me his handguns before 1995.
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Under North Carolina law, it is unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation to sell, give away, transfer, purchase, or receive, at any place in the state, any pistol, unless the purchaser or receiver has first obtained a license or permit to receive such a pistol by the sheriff of the county where the purchaser or receiver resides, or the purchaser or receiver possesses a valid North Carolina-issued concealed carry permit.
This requirement to obtain a permit prior to the transfer of a pistol applies not only to a commercial transaction, typically at a sporting goods store, but also between private individuals or companies throughout North Carolina. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-402(a)
In addition, this State law has been interpreted to require that a pistol permit be obtained by the receiver of a handgun when such person inherits a pistol as a result of the death of another person.
The permit should be given to and retained by the seller or donor of the handgun. In such a case,the permit should be given to the executor or receiver of the estate of the deceased person.
If the purchaser or receiver uses a North Carolina- issued concealed carry permit for the transfer, the seller
should reference such permit on a bill of sale.
Further, it is unlawful for any person to receive from any postmaster, postal clerk, employee in the parcel post department, rural mail carrier, express agent or employee, or railroad agent or employee, within the State of North Carolina, any pistol without having in his or her possession, such a pistol purchase permit or North Carolina concealed carry permit.
I’m already 45 days in waiting for the background check for my CCW.
This’ll likely make me have to wait the full ninety days. Fortunately by law, shutdown or not, they MUST either issue or deny within the 90 day timeline.
Yes, but if the instant check shuts down, it will play havoc with gun shows.
Here in Georgia, you only need to do a NICS check if you do not possess a carry license. If you have a CCW, no NICS check, just write down the license information, and you’re out the door. So a potential FBI NICS shutdown would only delay those individuals who haven’t gotten a license yet, which is pretty easy when you consider they’re issued at the county level, and you just go to the Probate court to apply.
So give the guy a business card with the model and S/N written on the back, and in three days he shows up at the store and picks it up.
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