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The Navy's X-47B Will Be So Autonomous, You Can Steer It With Mouse Clicks
Fox News ^ | 13 Apr 2011

Posted on 04/13/2011 8:59:27 AM PDT by mandaladon

To fly the military's baddest, most technologically advanced planes, you once had to have what Tom Wolfe called "that righteous stuff" -- the willingness to strap yourself to a jet-fuel laden machine and push it to the very limits of its mechanical capabilities. Nowadays, unmanned systems have taken the human danger out of some combat missions, though human pilots remain at the sticks.

But not for long.

The Navy's experimental X-47B combat system won't be remotely piloted, but almost completely autonomous. Human involvement won't be of the stick-and-rudder variety, but handled with simple mouse clicks.

Speaking to reporters at the Sea Air Space convention near Washington, reps from both Northrop Grumman (maker of the X-47B) and the Navy said the X-47B would be piloted not by human handlers in some steel box in Nevada, but by 3.4 million lines of software code. The rest of its functions will be able to be handled by non-pilot personnel (or your average child), as they will only require clicks of the mouse; a click to turn on the engines, a click to taxi, a click to initiate takeoff, etc.

For flyboys proudly boasting their nighttime carrier landing cred, the idea is anathema. But given the difficulty and danger of carrier takeoffs and landings, automating them is one way to ensure safety--provided the systems work the way they are supposed to. The X-47B has already taken to the skies from Edwards AFB earlier this year, but this is a Navy plane. As such, it will begin "learning" the ins and outs of carrier operations via simulated takeoffs and landings starting in 2013.

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To: mandaladon
For flyboys proudly boasting their nighttime carrier landing cred, the idea is anathema.

Easy to say......for a loser that's never landed a plane on a boat before.

Where is the glory in that? No scary pitching decks, blood curdling power calls, comfort time (on the tanker), rewarding yourself with a slider at midrats. Might as well paint the boats blue and give them to the Air Force.

Of course the SPN-42 (soon to be replaced by the 46) always works, is never broken and would never try to drive you into the back of the ship. Auto landing is always works. (yeah, right)

61 posted on 04/13/2011 10:07:13 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: CodeToad
You forgot one thing:
"Imagine a fighter / bomber that can be sent on explicit one-way mission if necessary and can be expended (eg. rammed against opponent) with only concern being taxpayer expense."
62 posted on 04/14/2011 2:38:05 AM PDT by MirrorField (Just an opinion from atheist, minarchist and small-l libertarian.)
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To: TalonDJ
Also people are a certain shape which dictates things like a canopy which really increase your frontal area (drag).

And sometimes there are other things like steerable satellite dishes that add just as much frontal drag to a UAV.



63 posted on 04/14/2011 4:11:15 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: TalonDJ

I don’t know about today, but in the late 80’s early 90’s, aircraft got aboard pretty well by themselves with coupled approaches using the SPN 46. The system was called ACLS.


64 posted on 04/14/2011 5:13:02 AM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: Yo-Yo

Why they are using a physical dish is beyond me, but expect that to change.


65 posted on 04/14/2011 6:49:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Ole Okie

Ah just land and reboot or reboot and land. When I see military advances I wonder if it will be used against us by evil illegal.


66 posted on 04/14/2011 7:20:46 AM PDT by mcshot (So this is how it feels to be flushed. The "that's impossible" days are upon us.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

I loved watching the B-58 do touch and goes when I was stationed at Whiteman AFB, Mo. The Hustler was a screamer and I read they plan on selling the static display at former K.I. Sawyer. At the time Whiteman was a huge airstrip with only hueys for the missile crews and some prop planes. Interestingly few of the base pilots were qualified to fly the flight club trainer because they lacked the hours.
Oh jeez, I just looked at your handle and realize you’re probably a spy. :-)


67 posted on 04/14/2011 7:40:31 AM PDT by mcshot (So this is how it feels to be flushed. The "that's impossible" days are upon us.)
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To: ken5050
If it can land on a carrier, in a storm, at night...have they worked out a plan for mid-air refueling? Yes they have
68 posted on 04/14/2011 7:42:59 AM PDT by Starwolf
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To: frithguild
Looks like things are pretty well worked out - here is yur evidence:

To be clear, those pics are all CGI

69 posted on 04/14/2011 7:44:17 AM PDT by Starwolf
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To: PapaBear3625
I would think that a Predator pilot who's theoretically over Afghanistan who sees McDonalds Golden Arches off to the side is going to ask some questions...

True, but there are parts of this country the 'Golden Arches' are few and far between.

70 posted on 04/14/2011 8:02:28 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Yo-Yo

“just as much”???
That thing is only like 3 feet hight in the front.


71 posted on 04/14/2011 9:47:09 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ
How much do you think an F-16 cockpit canopy sticks up?


72 posted on 04/14/2011 11:01:16 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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73 posted on 04/14/2011 11:09:22 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Yo-Yo
You are confusing ‘stick up’ with the entire frontal area of the aircraft. They could make the the whole F-16 more flat but since they have to stick a guy in there that limits things so they don't bother. That design feature was built in at the beginning so it effects more than just the height of the canopy. Look at that picture again. From the top of the canopy to the bottom of the air intake it is 2 or three times taller than those unmanned drones. Since you can't get intake air past a human very easily a manned aircraft has, as a basic design constraint, the frontal area of a sitting human plus the size of the air duct to the engine. Those are fixed. Add to that the area of cross-section of a cockpit and you have more constraints on the design. An unmanned aircraft has other different constraints. In the case of the one showed, one of them is that satellite antenna.

Look, if you don't get why shaving even one foot off an aircraft's frontal area is good then this discussion is pointless and you need to go back to Aerodynamics 101.

74 posted on 04/18/2011 7:56:15 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ
Thanks for the Aerodynamics lesson, Talon, but you completely sidestepped my original reply to your comment.

You said that eliminating the pilot eliminated the drag of a bubble canopy, and I showed you a UAV with a bubble 'canopy' for a different purpose, negating any drag savings.

The rest of your hyperbole is irrelevant.

75 posted on 04/18/2011 8:36:54 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo
negating any drag savings.

No, it does not negate the drag savings because the spot for that antenna, if removed, could not hold a pilot (and cockpit controls) larger than a 2 year old. A seated adult is taller than the whole front end of that UAV.
76 posted on 04/18/2011 10:46:38 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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