Fighting Federal Tyranny since 1861.
"The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form."
— Jefferson Davis ...
Posted on 04/16/2011 11:31:56 PM PDT by The Watcher
Freepers... I am the son of a son of immigrants, a working class stiff, who came from a poor family. I've never known wealth and am unlikely to. However, I see the endless refrain to attack freedom to be in your own business, to do as you see fit, and to direct your own fate and your own energies very much in danger.
As one person with many talents, and capabilities I know that are greater than the sum of just hours and hands, it seems to me at days, that it really is time to "go galt", and just withdraw. And on other days, it seems to me that the Mouch types haven't won yet and the future is not set... The country CAN be turned back.
Galt wasn't a protester. He didn't arrange rallies and make big speeches, he did the one thing that could be done, sans violence, to defeat the people who controlled both the laws and the media.
It would be fantastically easier, if we could convince 500 titans of industry to "go galt' with their personal wealth and just let the political left collapse under its own weight of incompetence and impossible to fulfill promises.
What is clear, is that the first step, known as TEA Party, has happened. That is, a mass outpouring of indignation at the stupidity of the looting class and the punishement of success.
In Rand's novel, the public fails to understand, and instead, simply follows like sheep. Perhaps Rand never grasped what American means, and that it means that even if it's a minority, Americans as a whole simply do not fall for the socialists, the redistributionists, the elitists, etc.
It seems to me that FR has become the news and daily exchange for links of data and intel, a smallish coordinator of activism, but it is NOT a platform for serious debate.
Debate what? About "going galt". No, I don't mean to withdraw from society and go on strike, though I suppose somewhere in the future that might actually be an option. Rather, a somewhat more disciplined discussion to do what Galt saw as needing to be done. To unite the people who matter into action to achieve the ends that were required to save the nation from destruction. Rand's story is about starving the regime into collapse. But the whole purpose is not about exacting revenge or collapsing nations... It's about removing from the controls of power, people who have become professional looters of others for political power, and who hold places of influence, who have spread the poison of leftist dogma as the only truth... Poisoning the American soul with dependency and worse.
Would you be interested in a forum to have said debate? And by debate, I don't mean political diatribes, but instead, deadly serious discussion about, and coordination of, durable societal change, from the ground up.
I'll fund the startup of such a forum, but I lack the means to continue it and grow it to national stature or size, it would eventually require support, mostly in commitment and time, and a tireless recruitment effort, to make the movement large enough to do what Galt's team did... change a nation.
I have little illusion that anything I start can become that in and of itself. But one little light can light another, and another, and another.
What say you? Would you be in?
“Truly instituting change from the ground up involves first seizing and securing the Public school system...like the extreme left did back in the 70s, with a second more radical wave hitting in the 90s. By doing this, they ensured that they had a factory of willing atheists and socialists at their beck and call.
Unless you can take over or destroy the Department of Education, ground up change is an illusion.”
You’re right about that, and we also need to take back the newspaper, TV News and entertainment media). More accurately, they need to be liberated.
This is how you take back the school system.
Take over the local boards of education in every school district in the country. Most people don't understand that their intended role is to represent the taxpayer. This ignorance is why most people vote for educators for this position or don't vote at all
Rule 1 - NEVER vote for an educator to sit on the board of education. (fox guarding henhouse)
Rule 2 - Inform all of your neighbors about the intended role of the board of education.
Rule 3 - Publish a brief fact sheet on every board of education candidate and distribute before election day.
Rule 4 - Recruit local small business owners to run for the board of education.
Rule 5 - Honor Rule 1 at all times.
I think you get the idea. Feel free to add.
I think maybe the original poster may have been misunderstood, or perhaps he didn’t find the right words.
I have been working on a Christian theology forum of my own — not political and not a competitor to FR — that would be built with a new type of forum engine. Current forum software projects aren’t very good at building communities that revolve around ongoing, prolonged discussions. I think that was what the original poster was trying to get at.
I have been planning to give the software I am writing to Jim for use here on FR, if he ever wants it. It will take some time to write, but he might like some of my ideas.
I think there has been a miscommunication somewhere.
You may be correct. There is ample space and time for a rebuttal and a retraction from myself and others who might be in the wrong.
We shall see what we shall see.
Your forum software sounds interesting. you might talk to John Robinson, the software genius, too.
“Without changing the hearts and minds of the people, it is pointless to discuss specific attack plans.”
I can’t find anything wrong with that. To attack the externals would be to use the Demonrats’ method. The heart of man is where the action is.
See post # 63
People who make their decisions based on how their feelings are massaged aren't the kind of people I care to surround myself with...
Fighting Federal Tyranny since 1861.
"The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form."
— Jefferson Davis ...
1. Do all you have agreed to do.
2. Do not encroach on other persons or their property.
“JimRob, you can’t sit on your laurels any longer...”
What arrogance! If you don’t appreciate JimRob’s site any longer, feel free to start your own!
JC
Good. You're obviously not serious. I wasted my time reading your screed and giving you an honest assessment and get back this self aggrandizing BS. Grow up!
You don't.
The early days of FR would have had me peppered with relevant questions, even hard ones, that displayed a keen and active mind.
I did better than that. I told you exactly what your post was missing and how to proceed.
Instead of a kneejerk reaction, why not begin reading FR, listening to Rush and all the other radio talk shows, and see, actually see all the progress already being made by the Tea Party Folks and others towards making durable change in our system.
I’m a little busy right now. I’m trying to light some golf balls on fire...
The Galt characters called by Rand are the big corporate businessmen and college girls with the disturbed minds of Soviet Russian plutocrats. Those “going Galt” in reality now are working class technicians and engineers: the few Americans of ingenuity.
I know, because I’m one of them. We only want peace and quiet. We get along fine with our humble, hard working neighbors.
And don’t mind the insulting comments. Those are from people who’ve read Rand in college and are now dependent upon government incomes or incomes derived from government employees on vacation (services, contractors). The default’s imminent, and they’ll lose no matter what.
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