Posted on 04/27/2011 6:58:01 AM PDT by Polybius
The White House released President Obama's original birth certificate Wednesday.
The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.
Obama's birth certificate [PDF]
(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...
“They were betting both at FNC/National Review and MSNBC/CNN that even if Obama released his COLB as has been demanded for over two years, that these folks would still claim it is not real. It was a great bet!”
Do birthers realize the big ‘kick me’ sign they are putting their backs by doubting the very document they demand be released? It’s there, it’s real, and calling it a forger
“I always though this BC stuff was an indication that those obsessed with it did not think Obama could be beat on issues and this was their one imaginary hope.”
Or rather, they have this “Aha!” idea that could somehow catch him or trip him up, as if the rest of the country would just let an election get overturned on doubts about where he was born (HINT TO BIRTHERS: He doesnt have to convince YOU, he just have to convince the authorities who put hom on the ballot. He has done that. In spades.)
>>:FWIW, my grandfather was a II and he was born much earlier than the 60s.. I think its a choice the parents make.<<
Interesting information — thanks! When I get a few minutes I shall exercise my Google-fu and for a little research...
IMO, the digitized image has been modified. IMO, the "Obama" in the signature "(Stanley) Ann Dunham Obama" is a drop in, as may be the "(Stanley)". The forger -- I'm assuming the "Obama" is the work of a forger -- patterns his "Obama" after how Stanley Ann Dunham (SAD) signs "Ann Dunham" -- she is very tight and clean with that on other documents. It appears that SAD would have used either "S. Ann Dunham", or "Stanley Ann Dunham" according to her divorce and passport papers that have been released on-line.
If you look how SAD uses cursive elsewhere it becomes obvious that she is most sloppy with the last word in other writing and with the last name "Soetoro". The exception is "Ann Dunham" which presumably because she has used that all her life is written very cleanly in a straight line. Yet the "Obama" is even cleaner and straighter than the "Dunham" on this newly released document. Not consistent with prior data!
It is possible the original birth document had "S. Ann Dunham", which the forger dropped the "S." and moved it over to make room for "Obama", and that someone at a late date in the whole forgery process decided that a "Stanley" had to be included, so somebody dropped in the "(Stanley)".
Your statement would in fact appear to be incorrect as per Federal directives......
Obama’s daddy was a student and his mommy had no occupation. I wonder what they lived on or who they lived off of?
you tryin to tell me pro wrestling is fake ??? next i bet you will claim that santa claus and the tooth fairy are old wives tales too ??? 8^}
therein lies my thoughts...if trump is nothing else, he is GOOD at PR and marketing, as is vince mcmahon...they both made bank on that WWE script...
so for the donaldster, its a win-win, he either clears the field for a real run, or simply makes a bunch of dollars by keepin his name out there for awhile...
either way, it helps bambam and is a distraction from the rest of the 'important' stuff...i think the colb stuff is a circus act myself, but until someone with 'power' demands documents, we'll never know...so in short, we'll NEVER know...
” Getting this out of the way NOW should enable us to get to the real issues. “
Agree. Lets force real discussions on the things that will impact us long after barry is gone.
Dude, your slipping from hardcore conspiracy theorist into the realms of pure blathering insanity. This is the long form. ..... Longbow1969
In 1961, long-forms had green 21st Century digital backgrounds?
Are you absolutely sure about that?
Are you Dan Rather?
Look, I am not saying whether the information on this is genuine or not. What I am saying is that this is obviously a computer generated image that has been manipulated to at least insert the 21st Century digital background ..... colored green, no less.
Once you manipulate a digital image, it's manipulated and not you nor I nor anybody else can claim to know what else has been manipulated.
I have been involved in genealogy reserch for years and I have a friend in Spain that works in the Spanish church and state archives. When he finds a birth documentation of one of my ancestors, he sends the documentation to me.
You know how he does that?
Simple. He takes his digital camera, takes a digital photo of the original 19th Century or 18th Century or 17th Century document and then he e-mails the digital photo to me.
The digital images get to me showing paper tears, water stains, ink smudges, etc.,etc.
Nowhere in the process is Photoshop involved.
Do you know how many of those digital photos of the original documents showed 18th Century alleged writing on a 21st Century digital background?
None of them. Zero. Nada. Zip. Zilch.
The document released by the White House is a digitally manipulated image and not a digital photo of an original document. Figuring that out is not Rocket Science.
Just release a true, unmanipulated image of the original document. That is all Obama has to do.
The digital photo above, water stains and all, sent to me by my friend in Spain, is of a genuine 1761 birth documentation dated 15 December 1761:
"En el quince dia del mes de Diciembre de mil seteciento sesenta y uno ....."
If I can easily provide a true digital image of a genuine birth documentation, without resorting to Photoshop, of a Spaniard that was born in 1761, why on Earth does the President of the United States refuse to release a similar image of his own birth documentation for 1961?
My questions stand:
1.) Why won't President Obama simply end this circus by releasing the long-form document?
2.) "What is President Obama hiding and why is he hiding it?"
At least Barry didn't go out there himself. Not this time, anyway.
Mulatto man speak with forked tongue.
Link doesn't work. WTF is Bryan Keith Nixon?
ok so now the real questions.
how long has he had this long form?
why was he hiding it?
If this is new, how did he order it from hawaii and NOBODY disclosed it was ordered?
How did it get from Hawaii to the WH scanner?
Is the notary a regular employee? or a special senior employee?
it is not the lie it is the concealment.
Nobody has anything except a Photoshop art project.
See Post 168.
This issue will not go away as long as Photoshop art is provided as "proof". So, we who are not "Birthers" need to direct the heat from this issue towards Obama:
1.) Why won't President Obama simply end this circus by releasing the long-form document?
2.) "What is President Obama hiding and why is he hiding it?"
A digitally manipulated Photoshop art project proves nothing and solves nothing.
In Post 168, I provided the unmanipulated photographic evidence of the birth documentation of a Spaniard, born in 1761, that Obama refuses to provide for himself.
It's looking like Bryan posted something about the BC he shouldn't have and now has locked the door. What did he say?
Not until Alvin, a life-long Democrat, provides something other than a Photoshop art project.
See Posts 168 and 175 for the obvious way to stop this three-ring circus.
My questions stand:
1.) Why won't President Obama simply end this circus by releasing the long-form document?
2.) "What is President Obama hiding and why is he hiding it?"
All this can easily be resolved with a inexpensive digital camera and the original document.
See Post 168.
Once you start releasing the image of an image that has been printed with facts from a document you refuse to show, you have proved absolutely nothing but the fact that you desperately want to keep the original from being seen.
Obamas Birth Certificate, Dissected April 27, 2011 By Bryan Keith Nixon I AM NOT A BIRTHER! But this one is too interesting to ignore. Upon hearing all the fuss about the newly released Certificate of Live Birth, I decided to open it up in Adobe Illustrator and see just what we were given by the White House. Judge for yourself. If you doubt it, open it in Illustrator and check for yourself.
How many different digital versions of the same image are there?
Why not allow the news media to photograph the original and end the circus?
See Post 168.
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