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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The problem with this is that it is unconstitutional. To do this, the Fed needs to pass a law similar to the military where you agree to give up your constitutional rights when you go on public assistance similar to giving them up when you go into the military. Otherwise, the courts will strike this down in a heartbeat, as it is a nobrainer violation of the 4th Amendment.


23 posted on 05/06/2011 1:34:20 PM PDT by microgood
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To: microgood

“The problem with this is that it is unconstitutional. To do this, the Fed needs to pass a law similar to the military where you agree to give up your constitutional rights when you go on public assistance similar to giving them up when you go into the military. Otherwise, the courts will strike this down in a heartbeat, as it is a nobrainer violation of the 4th Amendment.”

So it is unconstitutional for an employer to make you take a drug test? Since when is welfare a constitutional right?


26 posted on 05/06/2011 1:39:49 PM PDT by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: microgood

>The problem with this is that it is unconstitutional

Wrong.

That is a type of right that can be waived for a compensation due.
It is done by many Federal and State agencies, not to mention numerous private settings.
Settled law.


29 posted on 05/06/2011 1:48:09 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: microgood

Welfare is NOT a constitutional right.


43 posted on 05/06/2011 2:08:12 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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The way I understand it the test is voluntary, it means no test - no check. If somebody doesn’t want to take the test then simply that month they don’t get a welfare check. No 4th amendment problem there.


45 posted on 05/06/2011 2:12:12 PM PDT by central_va
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To: microgood
The problem with this is that it is unconstitutional.

Horse pucky....

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Taking a drug test qualifies you to continue to receive benefits for your children. In no way or fashion is it unreasonable.

That same welfare queen would probaly take a drug test when and if she ever got off her ass to find a job

62 posted on 05/06/2011 3:07:38 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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What about company’s that demand:
1. Drug test
2. Criminal background check
3. Credit report

Just to get hired and receive “payment”? What is the difference? If you want to be paid (by we, the taxpayer’s), you have to play by the rules. If these druggies have children, they should be placed in loving homes where they have a chance of a normal life. The drug abusers themselves should be given the chance of treatment. Treatment, not jail. The system that is currently in place is not helping these people, but perpetuating the problem - the Federal Government has become the ultimate enabler.


66 posted on 05/06/2011 3:39:14 PM PDT by khnyny
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