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Survivalists: Are you part of the new subculture?
KFOR ^ | 5/6/11 | Ali Meyer

Posted on 05/06/2011 8:20:22 PM PDT by Kartographer

At Red Dawn: Hunting, Survival, Recreation, they specialize in homesteading, emergency preparedness and first-aid.

Owner Gaylon Cornsilk first dreamed up this concept about a year ago.

The doors have been open just six months and business has exploded.

Cornsilk says, "This was kinda born out of a passion to see people prepared for any kind of emergency, natural or man-made. We are growing exponentially everyday. Obviously there's an air of people starting to notice and want to prepare for what's going on around them."

Donna Harper manages the store's long-term storage food section.

Some of the pre-packaged emergency food rations last five to 25 years; the rations sell out so quickly they cannot keep enough on premises.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; cwii; economy; emergencyprep; preppers; prepping; preps; shtf; survival; survivalping; teotwawki; tshtf
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To: Kartographer

BS.

You can’t even keep your story straight.

What is -this- you’re accusing me of in the post?

“You say that you’ve been caught off guard by two major hurricanes and a couple of tornadoes and yet you’ve learned nothing”

I couldn’t care less if you “respect” me or not.

The very fact that you hallucinated some hurricane/tornado scenarios involving me proves that you’re delusional.

There’s no “augerment” about that.


81 posted on 05/07/2011 4:02:48 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: richardtavor
Haiti, Chile and Japan - just three good recent examples of places where vast numbers of people have undoubtedly recently wished they were better prepared.

Some folks say it doesn't make sense because the disaster is going to strike them directly - however disasters come in MANY forms (with nuclear war probably being one of the least probable).

And, to those who believe that civilization can't/won't collape - I would submit that the collapse is already well underway. We Americans now live in a cesspool of ignorance, violence and lawlessness. The only question is will the collapse continue at a rate that we can continue to adapt to? (I don't think the answer to that question is necessarily 'yes'!)

82 posted on 05/07/2011 4:05:02 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Graneros

You remind me I need to buy a Katadyne and to drain and refill my two 55 gallon drums. And I live in a much more wet place.


83 posted on 05/07/2011 4:16:24 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Neil E. Wright

On that note, I started keeping extra dog food around after there were a lot of recalls due to bad food a few years back. I figured I’d hear about the recall before I used any bad food. Fortunately, my brand never was recalled.

It later dawned on me that this also gave me a month or two of dog food on hand, from a prepper perspective. It just lives under the guest bed, easy to store.


84 posted on 05/07/2011 4:32:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kartographer

I don’t store food, I store lead.

.22, 7mm mags, 30-30, 12ga, 410ga, .22mags, etc.

These little jewels have an unlimited storage time and you can use them to get all the food you need. Furthermore, it does not take up much room to store it.

Simply go to your food-storing neighbor and he will gladly exchange food and not even take the lead in trade. In some cases, if the good neighbor refuses, then......he may have to be forced to take the lead in exchange.

Do these “Preppers” realize that if we were ever to experience what they think may happen, the world will instantly become the worst nightmare anyone could imagine? People with food would instantly become the targets of the other 99.99% who did not store food and who will come to trade with lead, steel (knives) and wood (clubs).

Then, what happens when the food runs out??????????


85 posted on 05/07/2011 4:45:24 AM PDT by DH ( 48th TFW A&E 1967-1970)
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To: Iron Munro

Exactly!!! I remember a story about an older woman in New Orleans. While people were going hungry and thirsty and really suffering. This older woman had a large store of home canned food, she survived just fine. I think at least on some level, we have a moral obligation to have some stored food for emergencies. I’ve read that most American’s only have about a weeks worth of food. That, is foolishness and just asking for trouble.


86 posted on 05/07/2011 6:34:20 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: DH
So your plan is to either live off others or be a theft, that's a good plan.

What is it with some people do you realize that what it does have to be the end of the world scenario to bring a great need? The average grocery store has about 3-5 days of stock so anything that prevent deliveries for longer than that can cause major problems? Go into your pantry and see how much of you food in there is made, canned, boxed or what ever less than 100 miles from you? In recent history there have been major ice storms that have knocked out power for weeks and weeks with no power hardly anything is open that includes gas stations and water, but everyone didn't die, zombies didn't pop out of the woodwork, but a lot of unprepared people went hungry, cold and thirsty.

Its like the guy in another post who ask a friend where does your water come from and the guy answered the faucet, true enough most of the time, but where does it come from when the power has been off for days? No power no water simple as that. I guess you could hold a gun on the faucet or maybe even shoot it if you have to, but I still doubt it will give you water.

A major earthquake along the New Madrid Fault would have a devastating effects over a large section of the country. Unlike California which has required earthquake resistant construct for sometime such construction in that area is a recent thing so a earthquake there which would be just bad in California would be much more devastating there. And not just for those living in that area, just imagine how such a large quake could effect the country it could vitually cut the country in half transportation wise for a good long time. But I have the feeling I am wasting my time a person who's first thought is to rob his neighbors for his needs is not someone that can understand the logic of laying a bit asside just incase.

87 posted on 05/07/2011 6:45:14 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: beaureguard

bfl


88 posted on 05/07/2011 6:46:15 AM PDT by beaureguard
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To: richardtavor; Iron Munro

Apparently it’s not just the liverals you will have to worry about, read through the post on here there are plenty of ‘conservatives’ fellow Freepers who’s plan is to rob you of your stores, now that isn’t a sad comentary on things?


89 posted on 05/07/2011 6:50:36 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: caww
Ha, actually, I don't eat bark, live all that frugal, ect, we just spend our incomes in other directions than for everyday living costs. Maybe people in urban areas get around paying water & septic bills, taxes upon taxes, and all the increased costs of doing everything they need to do; but a friend once told me that what is important is how much you spend, not how much that you make which is taxed. Wife and I have our teaching certs, not hurting money wise, not why we have learned to cut costs. I actually think we live way better than many in urban areas.

The point I'm trying to make is people in urban areas don't realize how caught up in the system of needing more and more bucks just to live & survive in Urban America they continuously become. Somewhat hard to get out of paying local taxes when they exist. Difficult to have employment 2 miles from home in suburbia nowadays, increased cost of car payments, fuel, parking ect. Just everything seems to cost money to accomplish in urban areas; not so in rural areas.

I know here in Alaska, it does get cold. In the winter if my 1990 ford trk(that has 66K original miles on her and gets 22 mpg and only cost me 2500 bucks 10 years back) won't start due to minus 60; we ride school bus or snowmachine, or walk to school; no big deal. You can't do that in urban areas, need a new dependable vehicle to drive the 40 miles to work.

When we first moved here, I heated with oil (hot water boiler base board heat) 2000 gallons of oil/year in heating costs. Imagine spending 10K/year for heat where fuel is headed. I have 2 wood stoves in our house now, it's free and I just luv spending time in the woods cutting/hauling fire wood in by snowmachine during winter.

I could go on forever about how much one can cut their costs in a rural area anywhere across America. For me, it's all about cutting wasteful spending in everyday living expenses so one is more prepared when the hyper inflation hits; cause she's a coming. Just think about how you yourself could cut costs without affecting what you enjoy doing. When you realize how much you are wasting you'll be shocked. You'll also feel so much better when you see the savings that you can spend on other things that make you complete. No joke think about it.

90 posted on 05/07/2011 7:10:53 AM PDT by Eska
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To: allmost

yeah, sure!


91 posted on 05/07/2011 7:27:27 AM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: Kartographer; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ..

****new subculture?****
Back before 1975 no one (except me) had a survivalist mentality. You almost could not give away assault style rifles (exceept to me). Everyone wanted hunting rifles.

Then people began to learn about the Government’s “MAD” (Mutually assured Destruction) program, and the total failures of the incopetent Jimmy Carter put everyone on edge.

Survivalism began to raise it’s head about 1976 when the late Mel Tappan began his series of articles in GUNS AND AMMO magazine, and his book SURVIVAL GUNS.

Survivalism was then on a roll! No gun show was complete without lots of books on survivalism and many authors made the rounds where they suffered the ridicule of hosts such as Phil Donnahu.

Survivalism took a hit when Reagan brought in stability, but later some endorsed the Y2K debaucle. but those of us with level heads did not fall for it.

Society did not fall as was expected, but now we have Democrats worse than Jimmy Carter in power so be ready!


92 posted on 05/07/2011 7:28:04 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: Kartographer

Morning my FRiend.

No.

I am a survivalist of one.


93 posted on 05/07/2011 7:30:00 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
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To: Ladysforest

Oh yes the lovely world of “coupons” ~ I started using them religiously a couple of months ago and my husband is astonished at the stuff I get for free, near free or for unbelievable discounts.
My recent trip to Krogers....saved 76 bucks using coupons and spent 27 for a cart full of stuff.
Luckily my Kroger doubles 99 cent coupons and under. It’s pure strategy and lot’s of printer ink too LOL.

The only bad thing is that there arent a whole lot of coupons out there for meat or fresh produce.

I have a small stock pile started and I tell ya < grin > it’s quite addicting once you get started.


94 posted on 05/07/2011 7:37:34 AM PDT by simplesimon (I coined O'Pukeface back in '08. If I have to see his mug one more time...I'm gunna puke ~)
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To: MsLady

***This older woman had a large store of home canned food, she survived just fine.***

During WWII my brother-in-law’s parents had a ranch in West Texas and kept a large store of home canned food to get through the winter.
One day someone dropped a dime on them to the FEDS, and their entire stock of home canned foods was confiscated because they wer “hoarding food”.

They survived that winter because they had another cellar hidden out in the hills with just enough to get through.


95 posted on 05/07/2011 7:38:20 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: Ladysforest
OMG! I remember after Katerina some rich TV anchor kind of guy sneered that EVERYONE should be able to stash at LEAST $5000. bucks away - no prob - in case of a natural disaster. WTF??

Yeah, well, what do you expect? I mean it when I say that these elitists can barely wipe their own rear ends without paid assistance. They look down on us for not paying other people to do all the routine things for us.

Still, I think $1k is a worthy goal. And one that most people who could meet it, won't. My nephew and spouse are always tight for money, yet she regularly stops at Starbucks on the way to work.

Depending on where you live, what time of year, ect-all the money in the world won’t help your a$s out.

True, but for most people, an extra stash could be a real life saver. There are no guarantees because we can't know the nature of the crisis in advance, but odds are in favor of it being one in which cash would be useful.

Again, all we can do is estimate the odds and hedge our bets as best we can.

96 posted on 05/07/2011 7:38:22 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: DH
Cats, grill up real nice.
97 posted on 05/07/2011 7:44:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Murphy is in charge of crisis. It will be at the worst time and with the most problems.
98 posted on 05/07/2011 7:46:09 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I find cat tastes better if you take the hair off before throwing them on the forge.
99 posted on 05/07/2011 7:48:43 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
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To: familyop

My daughter was in Mongolia at one time. She took a 2-1/2 hour car ride, followed by 5 hours on a horse with a *wooden* saddle to get to a ger (fortunately she is an experienced equestrian) and stay with the family for several days. The day she arrived, they killed a lamb, boiled it and gave her the innards in honor of her guest status. She refers to it as a unique experience.


100 posted on 05/07/2011 7:51:04 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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