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1 posted on 05/11/2011 9:36:26 AM PDT by massmike
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So what actions did Tony Edwards take himself?


2 posted on 05/11/2011 9:41:03 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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So, which organization is going to criminally charged? They were on the scene with a person trapped under a boat in plain sight and neither one took action to save a human life. Why?

The only answer that i can come up with to avoid a bureaucratic turf war. It's nice to know that paper memos are more important than a child's life.

3 posted on 05/11/2011 9:44:25 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL)
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I read the article, and maybe i’m just not catching it, but how was the kid stuck? Why couldn’t they go in after him? I’m a little lost.


4 posted on 05/11/2011 9:46:28 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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Doncha know, they are there to write tickets, because tickets save lives. Pulling a stuck boy from under the boat, you ask? Pffft, go ask superman!


7 posted on 05/11/2011 9:50:23 AM PDT by sagar
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but told us their marine unit is not a search and rescue team. It's a search and recovery unit.

"Is he dead yet...OK now we'll go in the water."

I was a diver with Maricopa County Posse in Phoenix for 8 years in the 1970s and we always wished to have an opportunity to save a person. Over a hundred recoveries and not one save!

8 posted on 05/11/2011 9:53:10 AM PDT by Portcall24
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A second person has died as a result of a Saturday-morning boating accident off Camano Head, the southern tip of Camano Island, officials said.

Austin Anglin, a 13-year-old boy from Camano Island who had been trapped under the overturned boat, died at 8:45 a.m. Sunday at Seattle Children’s hospital, the King County Medical Examiner’s Office said. His death was a result of “near-drowning,” the medical examiner said.

Will Whetham, 68, died Saturday from cardiac arrest. He was pulled from Puget Sound by nearby boaters and taken to Tulalip Marina, where he was declared dead by rescue crews, said Deputy Chief Rob Johnson of the Tulalip Bay Fire Department.

Anglin and Whetham were shrimping in an 18-foot boat Saturday morning with three other adults when two waves swamped the craft around 7:15 a.m. and capsized it, knocking all five into the water, according to the Coast Guard.

Two fishing boats arrived to help. Those aboard pulled Whetham out of the water and saved the three survivors, who all had mild hypothermia, Johnson said.

More...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015009904_capsized10m.html


9 posted on 05/11/2011 9:54:19 AM PDT by kcvl
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meaning they were out to write tickets as boating season kicked off around Puget Sound.

Gotta get that revenue, that's the most important thing of all.

10 posted on 05/11/2011 9:54:46 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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I saw a video clip yesterday (I think from NYC) a guy on a subway took his clothes off and was running around, yelling like a crazy person. There was a transit cop, in uniform, about 15 feet away who did nothing. Then the crazy guy attacked a woman, grabbed her bags and ripped them out of her hands. The cop just stood there.

Too often, the emergency response people are not there to respond, they are just there to fill out paperwork after the emergency is over.

11 posted on 05/11/2011 9:55:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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There isn't enough information in the article to make any judgment.

Did the other rescue workers know that the boy was already dead? Was it pointless to put these workers at risk without proper equipment?

I would say, that if a boy is fully submerged under water, the window of opportunity is about 4 minutes.

12 posted on 05/11/2011 9:56:25 AM PDT by wintertime
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Austin Anglin, 13, was taken off life support Sunday at Seattle’s Children’s Hospital. His 68-year-old great uncle Wil Whetham died Saturday. Three others on board survived.

Authorities were alerted after the boat, with four adults and the teen aboard, overturned off the southern tip of Camano Island at about 7:15 a.m., said First Sgt. Robert Goetz of the Everett police. Officials said the vessel was hit by two or more waves that swamped and overturned it as winds kicked up on the 48-degree water.

“The bow went up and we were all in the water,” said Wil Whetham’s son Brian, one of the survivors.

Nearby boaters pulled Brian, his father, and the two friends out. Once inside the Good Samaritan’s boat, Brian tried to revive his dad with CPR.

“I knew he wasn’t with me no more. I just kept going,” he said.

But they couldn’t find Austin. A Coast Guard rescue swimmer eventually found him pinned under the boat. He’d been in the water for at least 40 minutes.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/121518604.html


13 posted on 05/11/2011 9:56:36 AM PDT by kcvl
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If you try and fail to rescue your kid, there is no-one to sue.
Wait for law-enforcement... now you’re talking lawsuit.

If it was my kid, I would have been under the boat immediately.


14 posted on 05/11/2011 10:00:45 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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More info: http://www.komonews.com/news/local/121518604.html


17 posted on 05/11/2011 10:03:24 AM PDT by decimon
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Not our job...


18 posted on 05/11/2011 10:06:07 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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Unbelievable that nobody, not even the witnesses, went in after the kid. It was an 18 foot boat, you could locate him in 1, maybe 2 quick dives. If he was hung up on something, take a few seconds to grab another breath and go again... AND AGAIN if you have to. And you go until the victim is topside. This kind of story makes me want to shake some freakin’ sense into somebody. What is wrong with people?!


22 posted on 05/11/2011 10:10:39 AM PDT by Hatteras
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The government in any of it's many forms is not your friend. They are not there to help you, save you, or do anything else for your hehalf except draw down the treasury each pay period.

Personal safety is your own responsibility. Counting on government to do it for you only makes it worse.

I was robbed a month back. I obtained a copy of the police report for my insurance company. About half of the report was covering the potential to charge the victim with a crime as part of the standardized forms, and the other half was formatted to classify the crime for federal statistics to obtain federal funding. It was oriented toward gang crime being the source of all criminal activity.

23 posted on 05/11/2011 10:13:11 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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‘ealth and safety


27 posted on 05/11/2011 10:20:59 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (I asked the bartender for a bin Ladin, she said 'what's that? I said 'two shots then a splash.')
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Stories like this remind me of Air Florida Flt. 90. Dozens of “first responders” standing around watching a woman (Priscilla Tirado) as she starts to drown while a civilian (Lenny Skutnik) takes off his outer garments and shoes and jumps into the ice choked river to rescue her successfully.


28 posted on 05/11/2011 10:32:40 AM PDT by Roccus
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How can you be part of a “Marine Unit” and not have rescue training? That’s about the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.


30 posted on 05/11/2011 10:38:05 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The last Democrat worth a damn was Stalin. He purged his whole Party.)
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As a boater, who been boating since I was 1, it is a said story. The heroes were the people who saved them.

Austin...RIP GOD has something planned for you!!!

38 posted on 05/11/2011 10:52:39 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Palin/Bachman 2012 (what will the NAGS say??? :-) ))
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their marine unit is not a search and rescue team. It's a search and recovery unit

Had to wait for the boy to die first.

Union rules you know.

39 posted on 05/11/2011 10:53:33 AM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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