Posted on 05/20/2011 4:20:35 PM PDT by Vision
NEW YORK (AP) — A report by "60 Minutes" says George Hincapie, a longtime member of Lance Armstrong's inner circle, has told federal authorities he saw the seven-time Tour de France winner use performance-enhancing drugs...
Hamilton said he also used PEDs with Armstrong.
Hincapie has often been depicted as one of Armstrong's most loyal teammates and was with him for all seven Tour victories. In an interview last year, Armstrong said Hincapie was "like a brother to me."
Armstrong has steadfastly denied doping...
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I haven’t believed anyone else but the drug tests. But the Hincapie comments give me pause. As you say, George is one of the most loyal men in the sport. I’m not sure what motivation he has to lie. The rest of them that reason is simple.
I don’t want to believe him. Curious as to why you don’t.
Grand jury, schmand jury.
All through his career, Lance was tested repeatedly, over and over, while many others were also tested. Many of the others DID use PED's, and were busted by the same tests which Lance took.
Lance never failed a PED test during all those years. They went out of their way to make sure he was tested at every opportunity.
Apparently, Lance must have had some kind of magic wand which Jan Ulrich, Alberto Contador, and numerous others among his cycling peers simply lacked.
Once again: Lance was tested relentlessly, and there was a complete lack of physical evidence that he ever used PED's, despite the most stringent tests available (the same tests which caught several of his peers.)
So now, years later, we are supposed to rely on someone's grand jury testimony as evidence to that Lance did indeed use PED's?
It's ludicrous on its face.
If there's ever to be some kind of conviction for Lance using PED's it will have to consist of a scientific test of one of his remaining blood samples. Anything less is simply inadequate evidence, and amounts to little more than slander...
I’m betting George is dirty too and he is scared or they are cutting him a deal. What other excuse could there be?
As to the drug tests, I think they are usually right. Usually.
That’s valid and makes some sense. Big George did not exactly have the quintessential TDF riders build...
Thanks for the ping; post; thread. This ain’t no disco...this ain’t no country club either...this is LA (we’re talking about here). I’ll side with LA.
Highly unlikely given the fact that a typical kidney dialysis takes between 3 to 5 hours and a more thorough treatment takes 6 to 8 hours. And that's using highly sophisticated dialysis machines.
You can't "flush the drugs" out of someone's body via a 45 minute IV...In fact, a typical blood transfusion for one unit of blood takes over 1 1/2 hours.......and that's just to add blood, forget about cleansing all the blood in your body.
I think that's the intent. As others here have said, Lance has passed every test thrown at him and has endured more scrutiny than any other cyclist in history. The only thing left in their near empty bucket of mud is to get his teammates to turn on him.........
The media, egged on by the jealous EuroWeenies, love to tople giants..........
If I remember correctly, the most common type of “drug” they use now increases oxygen carrying capacity of the blood, “red blood cell booster erythropoietin (commonly known as EPO)”
It actually doesn’t show up in the blood like cocaine would. The only way to detect it is by measuring the oxygen content of the blood and comparing it to an “average” number.
So I could see if they did a quick blood transfusion it would lower the oxygen content enough to be “average” again.
Fair enough. But the Feds are coming.
I coached a junior team in the 80’s. Hincapie was a monster of a rider even then. I always had the impression he was a decent guy.
Good. Bring it, FEDS. If the evidence is overwhelming and they get a conviction, I'll reassess my opinion. Fair enough.
I fear you are correct.
I don’t care what anyone says. Armstrong is still the best cyclist of all time.
Later, Hincapie released a statement through his attorney: "I can confirm to you that I never spoke with '60 Minutes.' I have no idea where they got their information. As I've said in the past, I continue to be disappointed that people are talking about the past in cycling instead of the future. As for the substance of anything in the '60 Minutes' story, I cannot comment on anything relating to the ongoing investigation."Hincapie has been implicated by other people in doping, but has never confessed. I'm not sure why there is a grand jury, because as far as I can tell there is nothing illegal about performance-enhancing drugs. But he'd have to have been careful, because if he DID testify, then anything he said now could be used to get him for perjury.
The never married and broke up years ago.
Can someone explain to me what we gain from this? This is all for a fraud investigation really? It seems almost like they are creating the fraud to then punish. None of the sponsors would have any claim to being defrauded or not having got their money’s worth without these investigations now well after the fact.
I am a fan of Lance’s and very much want to believe that he was clean. If he wasn’t then so be it, I wouldn’t care too much if he were a normal athlete that I liked. He is not. Livestrong appears to be a very good charity. To destroy Lance is to destroy Livestrong. I think that is a very bad thing and I don’t see how anyone can see any good from it that outweighs that bad.
From now on try reading comments that to you appear uninformed, as being tongue in cheek. You’ll have more fun!
Can't see that as tongue in cheek. Sorry.
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