Giving Away the Farm--Obama admin is freely giving Russia sensitive info about missile defense

Foreign Policy ^ | JUNE 7, 2011 | JAMES WOOLSEY, REBECCAH HEINRICHS

[Ooh-Ah]

President Barack Obama's administration recently threatened to veto the defense budget, citing "serious concerns" over provisions that limit the U.S. missile defense know-how that the White House is permitted to share with Moscow. This is the sort of information that Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, in his earlier days, would have assigned his spies to steal. Through its single-minded pursuit of "resetting" relations with Russia, the Obama administration may simply be willing to hand over this information and, in doing so, weaken U.S. national security.

Only two days after issuing the veto threat -- and as Obama tried to warm Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to U.S. missile defense plans at the G-8 Summit in Deauville, France -- the House of Representatives passed the defense bill. It included the provision that the president's team finds so offensive: Section 1228 requires that no funds can be used to provide the Russian Federation with sensitive U.S. missile defense technology.

This act of congressional prudence did not come out of nowhere. The Senate debate over New START raised questions about what the Obama administration may have promised Moscow regarding U.S. missile defense plans. The debate stemmed from the treaty's preamble, which linked offensive and defensive weapons, and a Russian unilateral statement that stated ratification of the treaty was conditional on whether the United States made improvements to its missile defense systems. In a treaty about reducing offensive weapons, it was clear the Russians required the Obama administration to include U.S. defenses in the bargain.

With that issue still unresolved, Congress discovered that the administration has been working on a missile defense agreement with the Russians and that Moscow had requested that the United States share with it loads of sensitive U.S. missile defense technology and operational authority as part of that deal...

[Chgogal]

Good question and why are we not hearing the Repubs screeching about this? I am so sick and tired of the eunuchs that inhabit the House and Senate. Where are this country's leaders?

[JudgemAll]

“This is reset”, winning hearts and minds in Russia by disarming us and arming the marxists of the world... via IMF world currency fund raising currency of Hillary.

Don’t you dare step on the pods and jobs of the body snatchers and hate Russia into the USSR (/sarc off)

Once our burden and debt goes to the Democrates, it will be mass deportation and destruction in AMerica. Our army will be destroyed.

[BlackElk]

What you and New Republic and Mother Jones and paleoPaulie and the paleopoopandscoops generally call "Neocons" have a real name: The Conservative Movement or Conservatives. NO ONE BUT NO ONE with two or more brain cells to rub together has ever thought of Kissinger, Schultz, Baker (either James or Howard), Powell, Scowcroft or Rice as actual conservatives. Elitist trash??? Definitely! Certainly not conservatives. They are liberal pseudoRepublicans and, when they support disarming the United States or rendering our nuclear arsenal toothless in the face of our enemies to promote their one world agenda, then they are traitors and should be dealt with accordingly with the maximum penalty available under law.

Their agenda reeks of evil. They have crippled the GOP Senate caucus by raising mountains of money to nominate internationalist trash to the Senate as "Republicans" and imagine (a desire for a steady diet of caviar, a love affair with baby-butchering, a lust for eugenics uber alles, their support for the "rights" of fudge-packers, their sashaying surrender monkey "foreign policy" and disarmament schemes and their purposeful impoverishment of most of America's population by sending their jobs anywhere but the USA) to be "realism."

Lawn tennis or tiddleywinks, anyone? I say! What a smashing good show!!!

Those philistine FReepers don't even want to fund Mr. Mapplethorpe's bullwhip up the wazoo photos!!! They are just not "realistic."

What you reference as "realism" is Alger Hiss, George McGovern, Bertrand Russell, Code Pink, Comrade O, Gore Vidal, Ramsay Clarke and their ilk, rolled up into a bundle on steroids.

If you don't care for a manly foreign policy, why are you here on FR???

Abrogate each and every treaty limiting or compromising US defense and prerogatives in any way whatsoever. Shut down the State Department altogether until it can be restored to the control of patriots. Remove the weasel from the White House. Conduct our foreign policy by the use of the Air Force and our Navy's ballistic missile submarines with maximum kill power and damage inflicted as necessary or as deemed desirable in this nation's interests with few American casualties or service personnel taken prisoner.

Not "technology exchanges" merely but "technology exchanges" designed to sell our nation down the river, to geld our military, to empower world government and Papa Bushie's "New World Order."

Is there some reason why conservatives should CARE what you believe????

[EternalVigilance]

That's because you are a NeoCon. You love that nation building stuff.

You're delusional.

[Ben Ficklin]

That's a gas. The Chickenhawk neocons talking about about, as you say, "a manly foreign policy".

Explain to me, what is the difference between your neocon compassion and the leftwing's humanatarianism?

[EternalVigilance]

Explain to me, what is the difference between your neocon compassion and the leftwing's humanatarianism?

What you obviously fail to grasp is that the "Realists" you defend are leftwing.

[dalebert]

everything is for sale with administration

[Ben Ficklin]

There is a tradition in the GOP that Realists serve as Sec of State and NSA, but if you want to call them leftwing that is OK with me.

[rockinqsranch]

I just returned online moments ago, and just worked my way in my pings down to Ben Ficklin’s response to me. I thought I’d read the comments on the thread beyond his prior to responding, and glad I did.

Thanks to you both for your outstanding commentary, responses to Mr. Ficklin.

I see Mr. Ficklin is apparently gearing for debate. I won’t be responding to him any further as I won’t debate a Leftist idiot. It’s a waste of precious time.

[EternalVigilance]

Oh well, thanks for your permission. I note that you don’t deny that what you describe as “Realists” are left-wing.

And while left-wingers may sell themselves as realists, it’s never true. Liberals have no access to wisdom, or shall we say “real reality.” The best they can muster is a cheap imitation.

[Ben Ficklin]

Its not a matter of debate, but of history.

The Realists have dominated US foreign policy and the NeoCons have made their contributions.

The NeoCon's brief period of dominance was only three years from the invasion of Iraq until Iraq Study Group and the replacing of NeoCon Rumsfeld with Realist Gates.

[rodguy911]

I wonder how much zero got for that one? Bubba sold out for just a couple of million bucks. Traitors all.

[ThirdMate]

Why is Belize oil drilling on that list?

[BlackElk]

The actual neocons are mostly dead now. Irving Kristol, Sidney Hook, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Walt and Eugene Rostow (one of them famous for saying: Grab 'em by the short hairs and their hearts and minds will follow) and many others who left the Demonrat Party when it was seized by reds at McGovern's convention (never to escape red accommodationist control sharing large parts of the agenda of your spineless cowardly "realist" agenda for a New World Order and other globaloney) are gone. The rest are very old but a lot wiser than the trash irresistably drawn to Nixon and Bush I by their lust for selling the soviets the rope with which to hang the last real Americans. Profits, profits, always profits over the survival of the USA and human freedom.

Norman Podhoretz, Midge Decter, Gertrude Himmelfarb and several others survive but age takes its toll on stamina.

Actual conservatives, formerly the New Right of the 60's and 70's, carry on in very large numbers. It is time for them to purge the tweedy professorial yak-yak artists who always find excuses to sell out America (SALT I, SALT II, SALT III, Panama Canal Treaty and innumerable other treasons). The difference between their actual conservative interventionist (on our own terms and without bowing and scraping to the UN and our other internationalist enemies) policy of doing whatever is in our perceived best interests, using whatever weapons will best accomplish the goal and absolutely shunning "nation-building" and other George Catlett Marshall-style payoffs to prop up socialism abroad and the "realists" is that interventionists want sharp quick and ruthless warfare funded by those who lose to our forces. I have not noticed any "neocon compassion." The aged actual neocons have been too busy saving American foreign policy from the quislings you admire and the surrenders you desire to be worried about "compassion." They also are not running Bechtel or Brown and Root and other construction corporations on the notion that if we really MUST fight then we can at least make the "realists" rich beyond the dreams of avarice and let those wogs do the fighting and dying without all that embarrassing desire for victory.

Neither peacecreepism nor international globaloney nor endless and fruitless diployak (with swell meals and accommodations befitting the swollen ids of our elitists).

Chickenhawk, huh???? Tell me the military experiences in combat of Condi Rice, Henry Kissinger, and the rest of your favored elitist quislings. Bush the Elder was shot down as a WWII flier at 17 years of age in the waters off Okinawa but that's about it. Colin Powell, perhaps, but not enough to merit such a liberal the promotions he received from GOP administrations. Take your elite and their diployak and insert where the sun shineth not.

Dubya, a major improvement over his hesitant father who made Iraq War II necessary by warfare interruptus in Iraq War I, still grew up in his father's house and that explains his tendency toward a "thousand points of light" a la dear old Dad that dragged Iraq II and Afghanistan out and refused to make Iraq pay for its liberation. Personally, I don't give a rat's patoot about whether Iraqis have "democracy." I care about whether they will be forced to heel.

[BlackElk]

That is one tradition that will end when we regain control of the GOP and purge ruthlessly. These trash are called left wing, ummmm, because they ARE left wing and enemies of this nation.

[Cindy]

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2537123/posts

[EBH]

LOL....I guess that’s where my mind is at....it should have been Brazil.

[Ben Ficklin]

"Colin Powell, perhaps"

You overlooked General Scowcroft, General Jones, and General Petraeus, all of which have their connections to Obama. In fact, the vast majority of career military officers are Realists, as are the vast majority of career State dept people, or as the NeoCons like to say, Foggy Bottom, as if that somehow undermines the credibility of State.

And as it is pointed out in #56, the military supports START.

[BlackElk]

After scrapping the State Department (or pampered diployak department of sellout artists) we can work on getting more Pattons and Curtis Lemays and fewer Eisenhowers and Admiral Laroques in the top ranks of the military.

Shutting down the State Department would really undermine its credibility and its corruption and its knee-jerk anti-American habits and agendas as well.

If the State Department were not chock full of all too many lifer diployakkers whose policies suggest a private life in which their bottoms have more uses than God intended, it might not be as objectionable. No likelihood of stiffer wrists in the foreseeable future. Shut it down. Turn the offices into a museum of Marxism-Leninism or a Mapplethorpe Photo Gallery or a Gourmet Culinary Institute or a training center for first class concierges or a center for the study of alternative lifestyle "preferences" or a National Lotto HQ since that would be a metaphor for this unilateral disarmament crapola sooooo fashionable among the fashionables and the Putin and Ahmadinejad and Hugo Chavez buttock-smooching social set.

If you are right about Petraeus, he was probably corrupted at Princeton which is a strange alma mater for a ranking military man who actually has fought. I don't recall ever hearing of battlefield exploits of Scowcroft and Jones. Do they compare in that respect to Patton and "Bombs Away" with Curt Lemay??? I didn't think so. Were Scowcroft and Jones spending their careers behind closed doors and far from battle, hamstringing the Pattons and the LeMays of their generation to thwart military accomplishment in the name of keeping our enemies happy and confident and in business???? Was Scowcroft the genius who advised Bush the Elder to leave Saddam in power???

Foreign policy is simpler than the greedy pampered suppose. Q. What is flat, black and glows in the dark??? A. Teheran within 24 hours after Reagan takes his first presidential oath if those hostages are not on the plane, in the air and on their way home ten minutes after he puts his hand on the Bible. Ironically, of course, the hostages were mostly diployakkers from the US Embassy but they were citizens of a sort and examples need to be made. The Ayatollah Khomeini decided to put them on the plane lest Teheran become a nuclear excavation site.

For the next nineteen months, Netanyahu is likely the only Western leader with the brass to do what needs doing and who knows how to wear the pants of a free leader of free people. Mama Grizzly can join with him on January, 2013. We must then keep the pathetic memory of what it was like to live under Comrade O constantly before our public as a guarantee that we never elect Comrade O's ilk again and also see that the alternative is not the New World Order surrender monkeys of the Percival Balderdash the 32nd set whom you admire so much.

[BlackElk]

As to the link in #56, it would appear that the politically ambitious whores at Defense under Gates and Comrade O are “only following orders”, a defense that did not hold water at Nuremberg or ever since. Maybe the next “Defense” Secretary will be Noam Chomsky or Ramsay Clarke or Bill Ayres or Bernardine Doehrn. Each is precisely as much a defender of our nation as are Kissinger and Hillary and your other establishmentarian love objects.