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'Book of Mormon' wins big at the Tony Awards
Yahoo - AP ^ | 06/12/11 | MARK KENNEDY

Posted on 06/12/2011 9:21:49 PM PDT by Borges

The profane and hysterical "The Book of Mormon" took home nine Tony Awards on Sunday including the prize for best musical, a considerable achievement for a pair of first-time Broadway playwrights known more for their raunchy cartoons featuring potty-mouthed kids.

Trey Parker and Matt Stone, creators of the Emmy Award-winning "South Park," found a kindred soul in Robert Lopez, who co-wrote the Tony-winning "Avenue Q," and all three found themselves with plenty of awards when they collaborated to gently mock Mormons and send-up Broadway itself.

Collecting the best musical prize, a subdued Parker, who tied Josh Logan of "South Pacific" with four Tonys in one evening — said he'd be remiss if he didn't thank his late book co-writer — Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon religion.

"You did it, Joseph! You got the Tony!" Parker said looking skyward and holding up his award.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: broadway; mattstone; mormons; southpark; thearts; tonyawards; topten; treyparker
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To: ansel12
You showed up on this thread to take a side, you sided with Mormonism against it's critics, that is why you are posting, to defend Mormonism.

I'm not a social conservative, but I think that Christians who are such are important allies in the struggle against the left wing expansion of government.

Did I just defend Christianity?

81 posted on 06/13/2011 9:07:57 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur

You better defend Christianity since they are the conservatives, the atheists are almost all liberals.


82 posted on 06/13/2011 9:13:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: ansel12
You better defend Christianity since they are the conservatives,

Yup...just as Mormons are. Actually, Mormons are more conservative than Christians!

the atheists are almost all liberals.

40%, as per the above poll. Actually, the group with the highest percentage of liberals appears to be Jews.

83 posted on 06/13/2011 9:29:01 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur
About 70% plus of atheists vote Democrat, about 80% plus of Evangelicals vote Republican, I don't think we have numbers on Mormon voting since they are so tiny, but it has nothing to do with why it is important for people to continue to confront the cult.

You are very dedicated to Mormonism though, I have noticed that about atheists, they do like to defend the anti-Christian cult.

84 posted on 06/13/2011 9:54:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: ansel12
About 70% plus of atheists vote Democrat, about 80% plus of Evangelicals vote Republican,

Close. 74% of Evangelicals voted for McCain in 2008, as per http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctpolitics/2008/11/the_evangelical.html

In any case, we were speaking of Christians in general, not Evangelicals. 54% of Catholics voted for Obama in 2008, so there's obviously a lot of liberal Christians.

I don't think we have numbers on Mormon voting since they are so tiny,

64% of Utah's vote went to McCain in 2008, and Mormons only make up 58% of Utah's population, so it's safe to say the percentage of Mormons who voted Republican in 2008 was probably in excess of 75%.

You are very dedicated to Mormonism though, I have noticed that about atheists, they do like to defend the anti-Christian cult.

In this very thread I've stated that I think that Mormon theology is a bunch of hooey and full of mythological absurdities. Please explain how this demonstrates a dedication to Mormonism.

85 posted on 06/13/2011 10:25:42 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur

You got on here to defend Mormonism, which is common for the handful of atheists that are members on this conservative site.

As far as religion and voting, the more religious vote conservative the less religious vote from less conservative to liberal, regular church attendance seems to be the measure of that, of course the vast majority of atheists always vote Democrat.

White Evangelicals are the most conservative voters.

As far as Mormons, how they vote, or how their cult leadership wants them to vote, does not have anything with the duty that Christians have to confront the anti-Christian cult, that anti-Christianity is the primary thing that endears the Mormon religion to bitter atheists and is why the atheists are to be expected on Mormon threads, even in the religion section.


86 posted on 06/13/2011 10:41:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: ansel12
...anti-Christianity is the primary thing that endears the Mormon religion to bitter atheists

You neglected to answer my question, which is entirely relevant to your above statement; perhaps you simply overlooked it. Please allow the courtesy of repeating it for you:

In this very thread I've stated that I think that Mormon theology is a bunch of hooey and full of mythological absurdities. Please explain how this demonstrates a dedication to Mormonism.

87 posted on 06/13/2011 11:02:52 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur

You came on this thread to defend Mormonism, that is why you posted at me in post 44 quoting me about what Christianity says about Mormonism, you decided to defend Mormonism against that Christian view.


88 posted on 06/13/2011 11:10:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: ansel12
You came on this thread to defend Mormonism, that is why you posted at me in post 44 quoting me about what Christianity says about Mormonism, you decided to defend Mormonism against that Christian view.

In post 44 I said (regarding Christianity vs. Mormonism) "I agree...it's different. So what?" and "Whether or not they believe (just for example) in the Trinity doesn't matter in the slightest, any more than it matters that Christians do believe in it."

I simply observed that the religions are different, and offered the opinion that this difference is irrelevant. How is that a defense of one the religions in question?

Also, I will now ask my question which you haven't answered for the third time.

In this very thread I've stated that I think that Mormon theology is a bunch of hooey and full of mythological absurdities. Please explain how this demonstrates a dedication to Mormonism.

It's looking increasingly likely that you're simply unwilling to answer this question, since a fair answer would undermine your position. Hint: this doesn't help your credibility.

On that note, I'm hitting the sack. I need to get some sleep, and the fact that you prefer your flavor of supernatural Boss to someone else's isn't exactly a burning issue. As I've already stated, it's not as if it matters.

89 posted on 06/13/2011 11:32:46 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur

You clearly wanted to fight the Christians and defend Mormonism, you have never let up and you are still here passionately doing it.

Like I pointed out, what brings atheists to a thread involving Mormonism is the chance to attack Christianity and while doing it they are of course defending Mormonism against the Christians.

I know that when you lose interest in defending Mormonism against the Christians that you will move on.


90 posted on 06/13/2011 11:39:45 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: HairOfTheDog

>>And the fact that you know nothing at all about the musical and what it’s about taints yours. <<

You presume a lot. There is this thing call the “internet”. It lets you read all about things that you haven’t seen. It’s like the library only it’s right in your home on a little box called a “computer”. When you understand that, we can go into a site called “Wikipedia”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Mormon_%28musical%29

Sorry, I don’t like when conservatives become targets and YOU may like crass entertainment at the expense of religion, I don’t.


91 posted on 06/14/2011 3:47:47 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Borges
I'm not sure how many people here have actually seen the play, but I have so I thought I would chime in. This was a show i did not really want to see. Then my family got tickets and under the circumstances I would have been the world's worst daughter if I didn't go.

I was very pleasantly surprised and entertained. I thought that the worst it did for the Mormans was portray them as naive. I do think that the intention was to insinuate this about organized religion as a whole, but it didn't feel offensive to me. In my opinion, as a whole, the show showed the importance of faith. I didn't feel like they were saying religion was bad, but that sometimes you have to look deeper for meaning then the literal written word.

In actuality, during intermission and after the show, I heard people murmuring about how safe Parker and Stone had played it because they felt it wasn't as offensive as the TV show. Of course those people did want it to be that offensive, but it is NYC.

I can definitely understand disliking the idea of bashing any religion in a show because where do you draw the line before one group is actually persecuted, but I didn't get that vibe from the show.

92 posted on 06/14/2011 4:36:26 AM PDT by GenerationY
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To: ansel12
Attempt #4 to get you to actually answer a question:

In this very thread I've stated that I think that Mormon theology is a bunch of hooey and full of mythological absurdities. Please explain how this demonstrates a dedication to Mormonism.

93 posted on 06/14/2011 7:04:22 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: netmilsmom; GenerationY
Sorry, I don’t like when conservatives become targets and YOU may like crass entertainment at the expense of religion, I don’t.

Oooooh - I thought your complaint was that they hadn't targeted the *right* religion.

People are funny. Sometimes especially those who aren't trying to be.

Just the way it is :~)

GenerationY, thanks for your insight. From becoming hooked on the soundtrack and even watching interviews with the writers and others, that's my take as well. Really looking forward to a tour of it so we can go.

94 posted on 06/14/2011 7:32:29 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

>>Oooooh - I thought your complaint was that they hadn’t targeted the *right* religion. <<

No, I’m one of the people that don’t want ANY conservative group to be slammed. After the Mormons worked so hard in CA with Prop 8, it just bugs me that they are still considered fair game with some conservatives.


95 posted on 06/14/2011 7:46:27 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: GenerationY; netmilsmom

Thanks for the review. Very interesting.


96 posted on 06/14/2011 8:09:44 AM PDT by Borges
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To: netmilsmom

Amway was a conservative company but it ruined a lot of lives doing it.


97 posted on 06/14/2011 8:12:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: GenerationY
I BELIEVE!...

that (God's plan) involves me getting my own planet!
that in 1978 God changed his mind about black people!
that the Garden of Eden was in Jackson County, Missouri!

Funny! In a lot of ways.

98 posted on 06/14/2011 8:27:15 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Abin Sur

Just add up all your posts on this thread as you keep defending Mormonism since you first launched at me in post 44.

You jumped on this thread to defend Mormonism and you can’t stop.


99 posted on 06/14/2011 8:29:18 AM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: netmilsmom

The Mormon religion is considered fair game with Christians, I have been dealing with cults since the 60s, I will never, not for money or political gain, join the side of a cult against humanity.


100 posted on 06/14/2011 8:31:50 AM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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