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B-17 Bomber Bound For Indiana Crashes
http://www.theindychannel.com ^ | 1:15 pm EDT June 13, 2011 | theindychannel.com

Posted on 06/13/2011 10:54:02 AM PDT by FunkyZero

OSWEGO, Ill. -- A B-17 bomber that dates to World War II crashed and burned in a cornfield outside Chicago on Monday as it was headed to Indiana. Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said aviation officials believe the seven people on board the plane escaped uninjured.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Indiana; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; b17; bomber; crash; planecrash; wwii
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To: ErnBatavia
.indication was made that the 8th lost more men than did the Marine Corps in the Pacific - now, that’s a new one on me.

By a pretty good number, actually. Official USMC dead in WW2 is 19,733. 8th Air Force dead is 23,806. Counting wounded, MIA and POWs gives 67,000 Marines and 62,000 8th Air Force. Plus the 8th was a far smaller unit, manpower-wise, than the USMC. The actual air crew strength of the 8th was about 135,000, compared to the USMC's 475,000 by war's end.

The air crews were certainly more likely to become POWs than Marines, but they were also far more likely to be killed.

41 posted on 06/13/2011 2:27:34 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: FourPeas
Not many of her kind left. Every one lost is a piece of history gone.

They built 12,000 of them. About a dozen can still fly today.

42 posted on 06/13/2011 2:33:36 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: FunkyZero
This is a bad day, but a good day,

I just got word that my wifes sisters father in law had a stroke.

He is a old WW2 pilot, my father in law is a WW2 pilot also,myself I flew for money.

I find irony and greatness, The Liberty Belle went down today and so did Poppy, both will be greatly missed.

43 posted on 06/13/2011 2:35:31 PM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: OCC

The hum of four Pratt & Whitney R-1690 engines isn’t something you hear everyday. Sounds like victory.


44 posted on 06/13/2011 3:05:25 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: Kakaze

Prayers for Poppy. He and your father-in-law deserve our praise and gratitude.

They don’t make planes—or men—like that anymore.


45 posted on 06/13/2011 3:09:18 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: Palladin
NO they don't

I flew T-38's and King Airs.................I never did what those 2 old gentelmen did.

46 posted on 06/13/2011 3:17:03 PM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Inspectorette

That seemed to be the norm for that generation. I used to ask my dad about his experience and all he would say is, “We had a job to do, we did it and we came home.”

The only time he I ever saw him get emotional about war in general was when I told him I was going to enlist in the Navy during Viet Nam. He very heatedly told me no I was not. He had fought a war so his son wouldn’t have to and I was going to college. End of argument.

I don’t suppose we will ever know the horrors these men, very young men at the time (my dad was 20 when the war started), saw and endured.


47 posted on 06/13/2011 3:43:24 PM PDT by redangus
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To: oyez

I used to live out by Indianapolis Regional Airport (nee’ Mount Comfort Airport) where they stage these shows. One day I was outside and heard the drone of the engines and looked for the plane. it took at least 5 minutes before it came into view. I remembering thinking what did a 1000 plane raid sound like? The Germans had to hear them coming when the crossed the Channel.


48 posted on 06/13/2011 3:47:41 PM PDT by redangus
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To: FunkyZero

They are using some of these remaining planes to provide “Vet Flights” for WWII veterans. My father was privileged to go on one last year and it was quite a thrill for him. He is 92 years old. He wasn’t a pilot in the war, but did get shipped to England in a B17.

At takeoff, they sound just like they did in the movies...sent chills down my back.


49 posted on 06/13/2011 4:06:46 PM PDT by Purdue Pete
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To: FunkyZero; null and void; Jeremiah Jr; 444Flyer; Quix; Yehuda; Tax-chick
A B-17 bomber that dates to World War II The Liberty Belle crashed and burned in a cornfield outside Chicago...

Looks like an omen.

50 posted on 06/13/2011 5:00:36 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: freedumb2003

The B-17 IMHO is the best, coolest looking airplane ever made. No more powerful symbol of righteous American might ever flew.


51 posted on 06/13/2011 5:25:12 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
" Disgusting to think of how many of these we ground up into scrap after the war. "

You got that right.

Also the P-38s.....

There is about 52 B-17s left either as a museum piece, or in parts, or in flying condition.
There is now about 10 that are airworthy.

For the record, there were 12,731 built at the cost of $ US $238,329 ( don't know if that was 1940s US dollar, or 2011 US Dollar ) ....
Greatest time to live in the USA 40s, 50s, 60s, right up until 70's.
52 posted on 06/13/2011 9:48:12 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: jmacusa
" The B-17 IMHO is the best, coolest looking airplane ever made. No more powerful symbol of righteous American might ever flew. "

Not even the B-52 ?


The coolest looking plane ever made... the SR-71 Black Bird...


53 posted on 06/13/2011 9:54:40 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: FunkyZero
Our oldest Daughter & SIL took the grandkids to the air (plane) show where this B-17 previously was, and thank goodness, SHE'S GOT PICS of all the old War Birds that were there.

Now she's GOT to email those of burn a CD for me. Or post them through Yahoo or somewhere else.

54 posted on 06/14/2011 5:08:40 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: jmacusa
(first, sorry for the day late reply)

*** The B-17 IMHO is the best, coolest looking airplane ever made ***

Interesting. I always thought the B-24 'looked' more like a heavy bomber should. That aside I know that B-17 was more popular with the crews in the Army Air Corps.

I *knew* an older gentlemen who flew in the B-17's. He was stationed in India and 'Flew The Hump'. He and his wife would come once a week to a Lounge where I used to hang out after work. And we'd talk 'War Stuff'. He loved the B-17 and said he knew he'd always make it back in it.

Those two 'old folks' could still pound em down, LOL. But that was 11 years ago so I assume they prolly aren't around any longer.

55 posted on 06/14/2011 5:18:56 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: American Constitutionalist

yeah, the “Buff’’ is cool but aesthetically speaking I mean... it just say’s “Righteous American Might’’. Besides, you can’t put the kind of nose-art on a B-52 that you can on a B-17. You know, some scantilly clad Emillio Vargas style babe with a name like “Miss Bea Haven’’ or “Sack Time’’.


56 posted on 06/18/2011 12:45:01 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Condor51

No problem, my computer was down the last couple of days. It’s been my privilege to know a few men who flew the B-17, one was a ball-turret gunner and the other was a pilot. Both men told me they owed their lives to the fact they were in a B-17.


57 posted on 06/18/2011 12:49:20 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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