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The greater danger of 'carry' (Wisconsin barf alert)
Milwaukee J-S ^ | 29 june 2011 | John Ridley

Posted on 06/29/2011 11:20:56 AM PDT by rellimpank

Life would be a whole lot simpler if our omniscient Founding Fathers had left us a Constitution replete with footnotes, references and Cliffs Notes so it would be clear to all concerned how to correlate the intent of their 1776 utterances with the realities of 2011. They didn't, so we are left to speculate.

In regard to the "right to bear arms," I'm willing to concede that under our Constitution, citizens possibly have the right to carry a concealed weapon to work, to the dentist, the hairdresser, golfing, to the synagogue or the movies.

My question is who would want to? With crime rates falling in even our toughest neighborhoods, who besides paramilitary militias could possibly conceive of a clear and present danger that daily necessitates carrying a gun?

Whatever possesses a person to get all obsessed about "carrying" while living and working in ZIP codes where the incidence of violent crime is minuscule? Some say there is a need for concealed carry in these areas because you never know when there might be a need for self-protection from attack by an itinerant vicious assailant.

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1 posted on 06/29/2011 11:20:59 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
"intent of their 1776 utterances"

WOW! How do you not blow a gasket at these people?

2 posted on 06/29/2011 11:23:17 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: rellimpank

to the author...

OK... if I see you being mugged and/or raped, I will NOT use my GUN to protect you ..

in return you STFU??


3 posted on 06/29/2011 11:23:59 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (islam ... Cult of the DAMNED!!!)
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With crime rates falling in even our toughest neighborhoods

And why do you think that is, moron?

4 posted on 06/29/2011 11:24:08 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: rellimpank

Ah... maybe talk to some victims in Chicago?


5 posted on 06/29/2011 11:24:13 AM PDT by Obadiah (If you don't believe you can win, there is no point in getting out of bed at the end of the day.)
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To: rellimpank
Life would be a whole lot simpler if our omniscient Founding Fathers had left us a Constitution replete with footnotes, references and Cliffs Notes

They did. One part of the collection is customarily referred to as "The Federalist Papers". If the author of this piece (OS) could read it would have been worth his time to have a go at them.

6 posted on 06/29/2011 11:26:08 AM PDT by katana
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To: rellimpank
The real problem is that Eric Holder's people won't be free to rob, beat and/or rape non-Eric Holder's people without fearing for their lives.
7 posted on 06/29/2011 11:26:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: rellimpank
It's not like it was that long ago the mayor got beaten to near death while at the county fair.

The liberal line is so easy. Every morning is a new day with a new set of facts and the joy of declaring a new line of bull$hit with no foundation. Every evening is a new dusk of nobody calling you on it either.

8 posted on 06/29/2011 11:26:44 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: rellimpank

Disarming your potential enemies remains a top priority for the radical left. It was for Hitler too.


9 posted on 06/29/2011 11:27:09 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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With crime rates falling in even our toughest neighborhoods,...

Try telling that to the victims of the flash mobs in Chicago, Philly, Peoria and who knows how many places that don't make the news. The cops don't even try to stop them.

10 posted on 06/29/2011 11:27:30 AM PDT by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: blackdog

Another liberal who, in professing to lecture, gets a basic fact wrong. 1776 was the Declaration of Independence, of course, not the Constitution, which was 1787. And the 2d Amendment was later still, in 1791.

If he’d just left out the “1776” it’d be ok (on this score), of course, but no: He HAS to show us he’s mastered the DETAILS of history. Oh, irony.


11 posted on 06/29/2011 11:29:04 AM PDT by pogo101
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“a Constitution replete with footnotes, references and Cliffs Notes”

I guess John never read the Federalist Papers.

Or any writings by Jefferson, Madison, Franklin and a few other ‘utterances’ by these and other founders.

But, that wouldn’t fit his agenda.

Better to be ‘ignorant than wrong’. Right John?


12 posted on 06/29/2011 11:29:29 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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I hear, every single day, about crimes where I say to myself....I say, “Self, those crimes would never have happened if those people carried a firearm.”


13 posted on 06/29/2011 11:29:58 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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I am a firm supporter of the right to keep guns and ammunition at home, one’s place of business and maybe in one’s vehicle. I do not support carrying a gun on one’s person as one goes about their daily affairs. If many people start carrying guns on a daily basis eventually we will be back to Dodge City 1870. It might be wise to remember that even “wild west towns” restricted the carrying of fire arms.


14 posted on 06/29/2011 11:30:19 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: rellimpank

I’ve got to see a picture of this guy.


15 posted on 06/29/2011 11:30:31 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: rellimpank
"My question is who would want to? "

I never did until we got a marxist/socialist as a "president" hell-bent to divide America along racial and class lines...now I feel it's mandatory for survival.

Follow the time line - this "carry" movement didn't light on fire until obama got elected...surely someone in the media can connect those dots.
16 posted on 06/29/2011 11:31:20 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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"I'm willing to concede that under our Constitution, citizens possibly have the right to carry a concealed weapon"

Really?! Well then, I'm willing to concede that under our Constitution, citizens possibly have the right to speak what they think with restraint from their government (from those who fancy themselves the rulers of the rest of us)

17 posted on 06/29/2011 11:31:55 AM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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It’s hard to deal with people who write stuff like this. He probably feels so good writing it.

He would probably dirty his drawers if he knew how many of his fellow citizens were now legally carrying.......probably some on his own staff.


18 posted on 06/29/2011 11:32:16 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

“If many people start carrying guns on a daily basis eventually we will be back to Dodge City 1870.”

Ummm.. You better look around you.

Daily ‘carry’ has been going on for a very long time.

Don’t see no ‘Dodge City 1870’ sprouting up either, pardner!


19 posted on 06/29/2011 11:33:09 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
If many people start carrying guns on a daily basis eventually we will be back to Dodge City 1870. It might be wise to remember that even “wild west towns” restricted the carrying of fire arms.

Well, considering 48 states currently have legal concealed carry (with WI becoming the 49th), I'd expect you to be able to cite rigorous studies showing how increased concealed carry leads to increased gun violence before you spout Brady-Center type jibberish on FR.

Until then, get lost.

20 posted on 06/29/2011 11:33:19 AM PDT by dirtboy
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