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Obese man fights to get funding for gastric band surgery (UK - NHS)
The Telegraph ^ | 7/11/11

Posted on 07/11/2011 7:08:02 AM PDT by markomalley

Tom Condliff, a 22-stone former policeman trying to persuade a health authority to fund obesity surgery, has started the latest round of his legal battle

The grandfather from Talke, Staffordshire - who is 62 and 6ft 2in - says he needs stomach surgery to save his life.

But the North Staffordshire Primary Care Trust (PCT) refuses to fund a laparoscopic gastric bypass operation.

In April, the High Court refused to quash the PCT's decision not to provide the surgery.

Mr Condliff's lawyers are seeking to overturn the High Court ruling in the Court of Appeal.

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Mr Clayton told Lord Justice Maurice Kay, Lady Justice Hallett and Lord Justice Toulson that his client is "morbidly obese" and suffers from diabetes and a number of associated illnesses.

Mr Condliff's health is deteriorating and doctors fear he could have less than a year to live, added Mr Clayton.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; diabetes; gastricbypass; healthcare; nhs; obesity; pct
That's the problem with any kind of centrally-administered health care...they have rules and if you don't fall within the parameters of the manuals, you are just out of luck.

The only way out is to get rid of centrally controlled health care and put it back into the hands of individuals.

1 posted on 07/11/2011 7:08:05 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
22 stones is 308 pounds (or 2,156,000 grains for the firearm enthusiast).

It sounds like the NHS has determined that letting the man die is far cheaper than this surgery and then years of being in the NHS.

2 posted on 07/11/2011 7:16:42 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Dems demanding shared sacrifice are like Aztec priests doing it while cutting out my heart.)
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To: markomalley
The only way out is to get rid of centrally controlled health care and put it back into the hands of individuals.

You are right, and even then, you sometimes have to fight with insurance companies to get some things that you need. I will not get into the details, but Blue Cross is a company that I am very happy with at present. They would rather spend a dollar on band aids than ten cents on a fix.

3 posted on 07/11/2011 7:20:07 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: rightly_dividing

oops, that is very UNHAPPY with.


4 posted on 07/11/2011 7:21:34 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: markomalley

Killing off a 62-year-old 22 stone man within a year is not a bug as far as the NHS is concerned. It’s a feature.


5 posted on 07/11/2011 7:27:29 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you can read this / (To paraphrase on old line) / Thank a TAXPAYER!.)
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To: markomalley
He should just move here, get on assistance and they will do it for free.

My former brother in law quit working a few years ago and claimed post tramatic stress from the collapse of the market in the late 90s and 9/11. Mind you, he was no where near anything that happened on 9/11 and was not injured, but he was put on disability anyway. He went up to 500 pounds, and last year the taxpayers paid for his surgery.
6 posted on 07/11/2011 7:27:38 AM PDT by kiki04 ("If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is a man who has so much as to be out of danger?" - THH)
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To: markomalley

It’s $10,000. Just spend the damn money and get it done, aleady.


7 posted on 07/11/2011 7:32:41 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you can read this / (To paraphrase on old line) / Thank a TAXPAYER!.)
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To: markomalley

It’s $10,000. Just spend the damn money and get it done, aleady.


8 posted on 07/11/2011 7:32:46 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you can read this / (To paraphrase on old line) / Thank a TAXPAYER!.)
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To: Haiku Guy
It’s $10,000. Just spend the damn money and get it done, aleady.

Are Brits allowed to purchase care/procedures with private funds? I remember hearing about Canadians obtaining black market imaging diagnostics due to restrictions up there.

9 posted on 07/11/2011 7:43:59 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Haiku Guy

Didn’t he see the Twilight Zone? He’s “obsolete”.


10 posted on 07/11/2011 7:51:02 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: KarlInOhio

308 LBS AT 6’2” is heavy but not to the point of needing surgery. I’m 6’4” and after leaving the Navy I gained a lot. I got up to 302 lbs before going on a diet and getting back to 230 lbs. What he needs to do is stop eating so much.


11 posted on 07/11/2011 8:04:14 AM PDT by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
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To: Haiku Guy

Or....

Just put the fork down and push away from the table.
Quit leading a sedentary lifestyle.
Stop being face down in the snacks.

Duh


12 posted on 07/11/2011 8:04:40 AM PDT by LFOD (Formerly - Iraq, Afgahnistan - back home in Dixie.)
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To: rightly_dividing
You are right, and even then, you sometimes have to fight with insurance companies to get some things that you need.

Insurance companies are just more bureaucracy...they really aren't any better than government-funded health care...the only advantage is if they cheat, you can take them to court...a prospect that will be far more difficult in a government-controlled scheme.

What I am talking about is getting rid of all of the centralized controls and having it between the doctors and the patients. Including the negotiation for fees. Sure, encourage the use of medical savings accounts to allow patients to accumulate savings for medical expenses. But get rid of the government-controlled, government-regulated, and largely government-funded oligarchy and allow authentic free market laws to operate.

(And, btw, if he really doesn't have the money...well, that's what charity is for)

13 posted on 07/11/2011 8:17:16 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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14 posted on 07/11/2011 8:52:17 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: markomalley

Change it to ‘’Marxist’’ obese man and he’ll sail thru.


15 posted on 07/11/2011 9:13:04 AM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: markomalley

The unsaid bottom line is that he is 62 years old, and they would prefer that he die instead of costing them money.


16 posted on 07/11/2011 10:35:09 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Mr. Bird

Of course.

You dont HAVE to use the NHS.


17 posted on 07/11/2011 10:54:15 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman

Thanks, I didn’t know that. The answer was not so obvious to me. As I indicated, there was a band of marauding imaging techs performing scans out of trailers in strip mall parking lots in Canada. As I understood it, Canada did/does not have a private option for such services.


18 posted on 07/11/2011 11:04:26 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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BOOKMARK

ANOTHER UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE HEADSHOT OR I SHOULD SAY TUMMY SHOT.


19 posted on 07/14/2011 8:49:05 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away After America , There is No Place to Go)
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