Horseshit. We don't have the numbers.
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Posted on 07/29/2011 5:50:43 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
The Senate voted to kill a House-approved bill to raise the debt ceiling, leaving the ball in the court of Senate leadership to produce a deficit reduction bill, with just days before the Aug. 2 deadline. The vote was 59-41.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid followed through on his promise to kill the bill, pushed through the House a day late by House Speaker John Boehner. The White House, which has thrown its weight behind a Reid proposal, had promised to veto the bill had it miraculously passed the Senate.
The Senate also killed the Cut, Cap, Balance Act last Friday and has yet to vote on a formal proposal. Having passed two proposals and with little appetite and time to attempt another bill, the House now waits to act on a Senate bill.
“I stuck my neck out a mile to get an agreement with the president of the United States,” Boehner thundered from the floor after the vote. “It’s time for the administration and time for our colleagues across the aisle to put something on the table. Tell us where you are!”
Brad Dayspring, spokesman for House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, announced via Twitter that the House will vote on Reid’s plan Saturday to show that it is “not capable of passing.” First votes are expected to begin at 1 p.m.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/29/senate-kills-boehner-debt-ceiling-plan/#ixzz1TXnnsS3V
Boehner’s forceful speech was all an act. He’s been in on negotiations behind the scenes on Reid’s bill. This has all been scripted.
The House Freshmen are being used. They were supposed to be our last line of defense, but they sold out.
That’s right Tea Party, they SOLD OUT.
Perhaps Demint and friends are willing to hold the line.
maybe Mcconnell is bailing from talks at the moment because he knows this..and blaming it on wanting to just talk to Obama.
Demint might use the filibuster.
Interesting debacle taking place
ME TOO!
That's all I've been tweeting, calling and writing (on EVERY donation request I get) this entire week.
I also long for the days when we didn't have to constantly call our reps, just to ask them to do the right thing.
I've said it before - ever since Nov. 2008, it seems as though we live in Davey Jones locker. The world is upside down.
It will be an even sadder day if we end up with anything that raises the debt limit without cutting/capping spending. And this Super Congress is very scary. So is seeing folks like Ingraham and Col. West accepting any of these things.
As a point of parliamentary procedure, what was tabled was the house amendment to a senate bill. You are correct that tabling that amendment avoids debate and cloture. Reid has offered a senate amendment, and then introduced a cloture motion to limit the time for debate on the senate amendment. Cloture motions always take 60 votes, McConnell offered to take the cloture vote tonight, and Reid said "no" he wanted a simple majority vote. The count on (and reasonably so, I think) public ignorance.
Anyway, if the notion to table had been rejected, then the house amendment would be amenable to debate, or other motions such as to postpone, etc.
Obama simply isn't going to let that happen...he's waiting on the sidelines as this reaches another stalemate.....and the time-clock runs out....then he'll take matters into his own hands. Super-hero on the way!
Praise be...I have seen some articles with todays date that are actually reposts of quotes from before the Asian Market emergency scam.
Gotta find out if this is a current quote.
“what is their rationale??”
Others here are saying they’re doing it to support or show support for CC and B. Makes sense, and this isn’t a conservative bill by any stretvh.
Lindsey and Hatch are just being silly of course.
don’t be so sure about that...Right now the polling says the American people favor the republicans...
We are ALREADY in an economic tailspin, which is why as the days go on, the American people will favor the Republicans even more and the Dems will sound emptier and emptier...their press conference was so listless and flat and phony sounding tonight.
It’s just amazing hour nerd Reid and Duck Durbin can stand up there with a straight face and say they want bipartisan legislation while at the same time refusing to allow house bills to even be voted on. Plus, obamacare was passed by straight dem votes. The press lets them get away with this crap.
Then schumer says the house republicans can’t tie their shoes. I have no respect for republicans who take this and don’t fight back.
GOP voting NOT to table Boehner bill:
1. Alexander (R-TN) 2. Ayotte (R-NH) 3. Barrasso (R-WY) 4. Blunt (R-MO) 5. Boozman (R-AR) 6. Brown (R-MA) 7. Burr (R-NC) 8. Chambliss (R-GA) 9. Coats (R-IN) 10. Coburn (R-OK) 11. Cochran (R-MS) 12. Collins (R-ME) 13. Corker (R-TN) 14. Cornyn (R-TX) 15. Crapo (R-ID) 16. Enzi (R-WY) 17. Grassley (R-IA) 18. Heller (R-NV) 19. Hoeven (R-ND) 20. Hutchison (R-TX) 21. Inhofe (R-OK) 22. Isakson (R-GA) 23. Johanns (R-NE) 24. Johnson (R-WI) 25. Kirk (R-IL) 26. Kyl (R-AZ) 27. Lugar (R-IN) 28. McCain (R-AZ) 29. McConnell (R-KY) 30. Moran (R-KS) 31. Murkowski (R-AK) 32. Portman (R-OH) 33. Risch (R-ID) 34. Roberts (R-KS) 35. Rubio (R-FL) 36. Sessions (R-AL) 37. Shelby (R-AL) 38. Snowe (R-ME) 39. Thune (R-SD) 40. Toomey (R-PA) 41. Wicker (R-MS)
Voting with the RATS not to debate/vote on Boehner bill:
1. DeMint (R-SC) 2. Graham (R-SC) 3. Hatch (R-UT) 4. Lee (R-UT) 5. Paul (R-KY) 6. Vitter (R-LA)
GOP voting NOT to table Boehner bill:
1. Alexander (R-TN) 2. Ayotte (R-NH) 3. Barrasso (R-WY) 4. Blunt (R-MO) 5. Boozman (R-AR) 6. Brown (R-MA) 7. Burr (R-NC) 8. Chambliss (R-GA) 9. Coats (R-IN) 10. Coburn (R-OK) 11. Cochran (R-MS) 12. Collins (R-ME) 13. Corker (R-TN) 14. Cornyn (R-TX) 15. Crapo (R-ID) 16. Enzi (R-WY) 17. Grassley (R-IA) 18. Heller (R-NV) 19. Hoeven (R-ND) 20. Hutchison (R-TX) 21. Inhofe (R-OK) 22. Isakson (R-GA) 23. Johanns (R-NE) 24. Johnson (R-WI) 25. Kirk (R-IL) 26. Kyl (R-AZ) 27. Lugar (R-IN) 28. McCain (R-AZ) 29. McConnell (R-KY) 30. Moran (R-KS) 31. Murkowski (R-AK) 32. Portman (R-OH) 33. Risch (R-ID) 34. Roberts (R-KS) 35. Rubio (R-FL) 36. Sessions (R-AL) 37. Shelby (R-AL) 38. Snowe (R-ME) 39. Thune (R-SD) 40. Toomey (R-PA) 41. Wicker (R-MS)
Voting with the RATS not to debate/vote on Boehner bill:
1. DeMint (R-SC) 2. Graham (R-SC) 3. Hatch (R-UT) 4. Lee (R-UT) 5. Paul (R-KY) 6. Vitter (R-LA)
Yes, and this vulturism that I have been seeing on these threads is very disheartening. Either follow ALL the maneuvers or don’t comment on what you don’t know. The dems are the enemy here, not the Republican leadership. Boehner has had to swim upstream against heavy current with dem and lsm sharks in the water. For heaven’s sake, give the man some credit for doing next to the impossible.
Ingram, are whatever, sure is an idiot.
Horseshit. We don't have the numbers.
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From today:
““The bipartisan House-passed Cut, Cap, Balance bill remains the only plan on the table, the only one that preserves our AAA rating, and is only four Democrat votes away from a Senate majority to end this debt crisis,” said Senator DeMint. “I will work to force another vote on Cut, Cap & Balance next week because the President and Democrats have not offered the American people any other viable solution...The President created this crisis by irresponsible spending and borrowing that has left our economy in shambles, and if he’s unwilling to simply agree to balance the budget in 10 years then he is not a credible negotiating partner.”
Thank you for this link!!
PIG BOOK OF CONGRESSIONAL SPENDING
http://www.cagw.org/reports/pig-book/2010/
We already know that he’s the latter.
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