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Why Obama May Pass on Reelection
Business Insider ^ | August 17, 2011 | Russell Halley

Posted on 08/17/2011 6:24:41 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

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To: brownsfan
Obama is a narcissist, it would be impossible for him to NOT seek re-election.

YUP.

61 posted on 08/17/2011 8:07:39 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: gunnyg
For all we know, a deal may have already been cut for him to walk away scott free!

I think he'll accept the 4 year golf tour instead of running for another term.

62 posted on 08/17/2011 8:14:31 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: varon
"I think he'll accept the 4 year golf tour instead of running for another term."

Obviously a Presidential term is no serious impediment to his current golf tour. On top of that, he gets to play primo courses for free at different military bases.
63 posted on 08/17/2011 8:18:25 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: roamer_1

Also, I remember that RUSH stole the votes away from Hillary by suggesting that we do the same thing Dems were doing to our candidates- vote for Obama vs. Hillary. Mr. Me voted in the Dem primary for “O”!!!

But, in the end what really gave us Obama was a weak party allowing Dole followed by McCain to be our gagging choices.


64 posted on 08/17/2011 8:20:29 AM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: ilovesarah2012

I think his ego will not allow him to reject a second run. And who is going to run who will poll better? Reid? Pelosi? Biden? Jay Carney? Everyone talks about the weak lineup the Republicans offer but the Democrat field should Obama step down is even worse.

The one exception might be Hillary with Bill doing most of the talking. But then we’d have to examine Hillary’s job as Secretary of State where she seems to have bungled most of her assignments in the Middle East and elsewhere. Only the faint glow of the 1990s economy would give her credibility and that was an illusion anyway.

No, Obama is fundraising like crazy *because* he expects and wants to be re-elected. I just don’t see him stepping down and I don’t see anyone else in the party with the muscle to make him step aside.


65 posted on 08/17/2011 8:28:20 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

no, i don’t.


66 posted on 08/17/2011 8:37:43 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

If he’s not running then why is he out & about with the great unwashed masses raising money like crazy?


67 posted on 08/17/2011 8:39:00 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: ilovesarah2012

That is something Dr. Jack Wheeler has said...he pull a johnson...


68 posted on 08/17/2011 8:39:35 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: webstersII

If he said he wasn’t running at this point, imagine what would happen. And I don’t think he doesn’t want to run, I think there are others who don’t want him to run but I don’t expect anything definite for a long time yet. We’ll have to wait and see.


69 posted on 08/17/2011 8:44:37 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

One thing I think needs changing is to take away the GOP-Grand OLD Party. It isn’t grand anymore and it is truly OLD as dirt. Wish someone would come up with something new to replace this since it is only descriptive of who we run at the top of the ticket- old ineffective Congressmen who think it is their right to be on the ticket.


70 posted on 08/17/2011 8:48:18 AM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: YouGoTexasGirl
in the end what really gave us Obama was a weak party allowing Dole followed by McCain to be our gagging choices.

There is much truth in what you say - I have said that every election is the Republicans' to lose. There is a natural tendency in this country toward Conservatism. But Repubs ALWAYS try an "UP the middle" approach, offering the voter a distinction without a difference. Until conservatives realize that voting *for* 'gagging choices' will only result in *MORE* 'gagging choices', there will be no change. The trick is as evident as it is simple: if it causes you to gag, don't partake.

71 posted on 08/17/2011 8:58:28 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Siena Dreaming
People are saying there's no way he'd not run...he's a narcissist. But that's exactly why he may very well consider not running...if his poll numbers are that bad and everyone hates him, his narcissism may not allow him to face a terrible defeat.

Exactly, think Eric Cartman saying "Screw you guys I'm going home." The key is Soros. If Soros pulls the plug on Obama, or just drops dead, after all he isn't looking all that good these days, Obama will be out the door. Cut the strings from the puppet master and the puppet does not stand for long.
72 posted on 08/17/2011 9:01:31 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Does he get to keep his campaign money if he doesn’t run? If so, he might just take the money and run. I still don’t think he likes to work hard. Then, watch for Hillary with Ron Paul as a third party candidate running as a conservative to split the Republican vote.


73 posted on 08/17/2011 9:44:06 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Siena Dreaming

“.if his poll numbers are that bad and everyone hates him, his narcissism may not allow him to face a terrible defeat.”

I concur this is a possibility. He would need to frame it as being “ahead of his time” or having achieved “far more than expected given the nation’s racism.”
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Even though most of the nation detests it, Obamacare still is a signature achievement in the eyes of progressives: something that will embed itself into the social fabric so thoroughly (think Medicare) that it will be impossible to eradicate. True, he didn’t get them the public option, but that’s just another incremental step vastly easier to achieve once the Obamacare framework is in place. So he (thanks to Nancy and Harry) was able to pull off something that had eluded the grasp of many before him. With the critical importance of Obamacare to his legacy, now imagine SCOTUS declaring it unconstitutional in early 2012 [we still don’t know if they’ll take the case in the 2012-2013 term, but if they do, they will decide it sooner rather than later given the enormous fiscal consequences at stake: I don’t think they’ll wait until the end of the term to announce the decision].

I think such a decision could be the impetus for bailing out. If the individual mandate is rejected, progressives are going to say “see? If we’d pursued a single payer plan, that approach couldn’t have been declared unconstitutional (viz. Social Security). Thus, we’re only in this boat because we were trying to water down the bill to get Republican support. This would give Obama an “out” that it was the Republican’s fault for having “forced” him to sign a flawed bill. He would resign “for the good of the country” because (he would imply) the Republicans just couldn’t get along with a black president. So HE was willing to compromise to get things done, but the Republicans never were and never will be so long as there’s a black president. So since we can’t afford to wait to tackle our serious problems, it would be best for the nation if he stepped aside, yada, yada, yada. He’d retired and get paid $10 million to write his memoir Misunderstood, which would be plenty enough to bankroll Michelle’s shopping expeditions and trips to Martha’s Vineyward for decades.


74 posted on 08/17/2011 1:18:01 PM PDT by DrC
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To: frankenMonkey

“You just created a great bumper sticker!”

A companion sticker would be:
Would You Really Trust the Guy Who Made This Collosal Mess to Clean it Up?


75 posted on 08/17/2011 1:50:10 PM PDT by DrC
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To: frankenMonkey; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; ...
RE:”If Obama does actually get re-elected he will inherit one hell-of-a-mess from himself...”.....You just created a great bumper sticker!

Thanks, I gave it a try a few minutes ago:


76 posted on 08/17/2011 9:07:35 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: New Jersey Realist

No. A narcissist doesn’t see reality that way. They see themselves as being the victor, never the loser.

Remember, he has risen up to the highest office of the land. He has surrounded himself with a circle of people who lie to him and tell him that everything he does is right and that he can do no wrong.

He actually believes the things that he says. When he lies, he doesn’t feel it as a lie, like a normal person does. He lies, because he feels that he must do it, the ends justify the means. He needs to get his way. He never feels an inkling of remorse.

The possibility of losing the next election will never occur to him. He cannot see that as a possibility.

I was raised by a narcissistic father. He never did the right thing and sacrificed of himself for the good of others. He always put his needs before everyone else. He could do no wrong. He was the most brilliant, the most charming, the most wonderful, the best father and and husband, the most talented, the greatest guy. He believed this fully about himself. He didn’t ever doubt who he was.

This is how Obama sees himself. He is the president of the most powerful nation of the world. He believes that he is doing the right thing. He is following the plan. He doesn’t care if we don’t like it. He believes he is smarter than the rest of the nation.

I remember watching my father. If and when he failed, he had the right excuses. He would pull himself up and just try again.

My father was worth millions of dollars more than once in his life. He took great risks, worked really hard and earned a lot of money. But, he sacrificed his wife and children in doing so. He cared more about himself than us. He would lie to himself and us and say that he was doing it for the family. That was never true. It was always about feeding the ego. He needed to feel that he was powerful and that he was successful.

Obama needs the presidency. He will not accept defeat. He is going to turn into a wild, rabid dog in this campaign. He is not a smart man, and he is going to go off the teleprompter. His people are not going to be able to control his mouth and he is going to say some stupid and unpleasant things.

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we’ll bring a gun.”

That is just the tip of the iceberg.

It’s going to get nasty. This is going to be the dirtiest Democratic election that you have ever seen. Pelosi and Reid are going to want to hide under their beds in shame. They’re going to want to pretend that they never knew him.

Obama has never really learned self-control. And it’s going to be amazing to watch.


77 posted on 08/17/2011 10:13:01 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: Sonny M
LBJ quit running because he was not going to win his own primary.

The primary situation will define how the game will be played.

The Democrat party estalishment is caught in a bind -- between a stone failure in the White House...and a potential primary contest it cannot win.

Simply stated, the party (and the Clintons) cannot use the primary to remove (or even threaten) Obama from the race -- even though a primary challenge would likely succeed!

Anybody who openly challenges Obama and, worse, defeats him in the primary is...going...to...lose...the...black...vote.

And, without the black vote, the Democrat party is not just a loser in the short-term, but history in the long-term.

The only way the Democrat establishment can "get rid of Obama" is to somehow talk him (and his ego) into resigning.

Well, of course, there is another way to "get rid of Obama". But I don't even want to think about it -- though I'm certain there are people on the left who are.

Net:net, if Obama doesn't quit on his own, the Democrat party won't bring a primary challenger. They can't afford to.

Instead, they'll take their licking...and try to hold their coalition together for a future return to power -- after the GOP screws up.

And we all know they will...

78 posted on 08/17/2011 10:48:38 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01
Well, of course, there is another way to "get rid of Obama". But I don't even want to think about it -- though I'm certain there are people on the left who are.

And now you know, why he picked Joe Biden and not Hillary Clinton to be his vice president :-)

79 posted on 08/17/2011 10:57:27 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

Interesting, isn’t it — that the last two Democrat VPs were both selected for the job because they were too damn dense to be a threat?


80 posted on 08/17/2011 11:03:01 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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