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Cops Fear Violence Against Flash Mobs (as liberals do too)
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Posted on 08/23/2011 2:39:08 PM PDT by MNDude

UPPER DARBY, Pa. - As police in Upper Darby, Pa., search for more young people involved in last week's flash mob, more adults are thinking about arming themselves with guns.

People are talking about how afraid they are of being caught in the path one of these flash mobs while they're out minding their own business, and they want to be ready.

Law enforcement officials say it's a nightmare in the making because ordinary, private citizens are getting gun permits.

"We have people now that are fearful and carrying guns because of children. How sad is that?" Upper Darby police Captain George Rhoades said.

He said it's all legal.

"It's all self-defense," Rhoades said.

He says about 10 to 20 applications are processed every week in Upper Darby.

Rhoades says with that many people "carrying" and the violent actions of these flash mobs, the worst is bound to happen.

"Now we have this mentality, 'I'm not going to retreat. I'm not going to call 9-1-1. I'm going to be a vigilante and take care of the problem myself,'" he said.

That means flash mob children could be dead, and the would-be victims may have the right, but Rhoades is appealing to everybody to think twice.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
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To: freedumb2003
Taser, bean-bag gun, rubber bullets — there are lots of non-lethal options.

Feel free. I'll stick to guaranteed fight stoppers. I'll live. You won't.

41 posted on 08/23/2011 3:02:32 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: MNDude

I would prefer a Story titled “Cops Fear Flash Mob Violence Against Innocent Citizens” more than this one, since it is a 10000X more likely to be a reality shortly.


42 posted on 08/23/2011 3:03:13 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: MNDude

“flash mob children”

What a cute name for dangerous thugs


43 posted on 08/23/2011 3:03:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: RadiationRomeo
If a huge mob is coming at you and you are armed to the teeth what is legally allowed?

If you are in fear of your life, you are allowed to defend yourself using deadly force. Weapons that can be concealed for carry generally hold no more than fifteen bullets. Mobs typically change direction when one of the pack is dropped. If they don't, you will be overrun.

It makes no difference how many such mob creatures are killed. They are a cancer on society. It is the harm to decent folks that matters.

44 posted on 08/23/2011 3:04:08 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Bob

Sorry, but when a child is going to try and bash my head in, I aint going to read him Dr Seuss.
They aint children, they are animals that the “Great Society” created.
Once a few of them get shot between their running lights, this will fade.


45 posted on 08/23/2011 3:05:21 PM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: MNDude
"Now we have this mentality, 'I'm not going to retreat. I'm not going to call 9-1-1. I'm going to be a vigilante and take care of the problem myself,'" he said.

What's the problem? Someone has to do it. The legal system is useless.
46 posted on 08/23/2011 3:06:50 PM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/XX12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: MNDude

Cops Fear Violence From Flash Mobs Against Public

There ya are

I fixed it..


47 posted on 08/23/2011 3:06:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Don Corleone

I believe the phrase passed around the Japanese High Command was “a rifle behind every blade of grass.”.

“I fear that all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and fill him with a terrible resolve.”


48 posted on 08/23/2011 3:07:12 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: RadiationRomeo
...you can count on the MSM covering it every second for the next two weeks...

The knowledge that folks actively defend themselves with deadly force would serve to discourage flash mobs. The MSM might not cover it just because such a message is counter to their viewpoint.

49 posted on 08/23/2011 3:07:27 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: papertyger

the media will always quote the most radical voice from the side of reason to make their point.


50 posted on 08/23/2011 3:07:31 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: Noumenon

>>Feel free. I’ll stick to guaranteed fight stoppers. I’ll live. You won’t.<<

I mis-read the article. I though the COPS were afraid to do anything against the flashmobs.

As far as CCW for personal protection and deadly force as an option for a citizen being attacked — I am all for it.


51 posted on 08/23/2011 3:07:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: MNDude
Law enforcement officials say it's a nightmare in the making because ordinary, private citizens are getting gun permits.

What is a nightmare is the fact that people have to pay some stinking bureaucrat for the right to defend themselves. This country has gone to hell in a handbasket.

52 posted on 08/23/2011 3:09:38 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: jessduntno
Why can't the cops protect us?

Wait, there'd be too many.

53 posted on 08/23/2011 3:09:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MNDude
Whether he intended so or not, it sounds to me like Captain Rhoades found an effective way to send a chilling message: “Flash rob here. Die here.” I suspect Upper Darby will be a quiet little township from here on. Voice your concerns, Captain. Often and loud.
54 posted on 08/23/2011 3:11:18 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: MNDude
I understand that child soldiers can be the most vicious in the world. Young people have not learned morality, fear or compassion making them perfect shock troops. Tell some African being beheaded by a “child” that they shouldn’t defend themselves. Myself, I don't want to hurt anybody, but it would be even more immoral to stand by and watch as these young people injure and kill others if you have the means to stop them.
55 posted on 08/23/2011 3:13:57 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: MNDude
I would prefer a Story titled “Cops Fear Flash Mob Violence Against Innocent Citizens” more than this one, since it is a 10000X more likely to be a reality shortly.

Testify Dude, testify.

The tone of the article is such a great example of the mindset that just resulted in English riots, people dead, and no one able to defend themselves. The "flash mob" started out as a mindless prank and now that term is being used to describe violent "virtual" criminal gangs that can form through social media. And yet the reporter is worried that one of the gangs might target someone who turns out to be able to defend themselves. The horror!
56 posted on 08/23/2011 3:14:22 PM PDT by rockvillem
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To: freedumb2003

You are correct. Recent history tells us that we can no longer rely on the fear of the law as a deterrent to these thugs. Eve nif the police were in the vicinity, we’ve see ntoo many cases where they simply stand by and do nothing. Won’t even correctly report the incident.

So my solution is to Kill the first few quickly and in as nasty a manner as I can manage. Hits to the pelvic girdle will accomplish wonders. If nothing else, the shock of what you’ve done will give you a few precious secoonds to achieve a better position and to haul out another magazine.


57 posted on 08/23/2011 3:15:22 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: All

This captain is not representative of all law enforcement. He’s just the department handwringer. He may also put this face on for the media but secretly has a different mindset.

Listen, I hate working shootings as much as the next copper but I am not going to tell people they shouldn’t arm themselves as precaution against these marauders.

Like my old platoon daddy told me: “You can’t secure anything but the piece of real estate you are standing on. And sometimes not even that.” This is applicable to LE as well.

If I am there, I will put myself between you and them, and give ‘em hell if they try me. If I am not, you are on you own. Be prepared.


58 posted on 08/23/2011 3:19:00 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Obama read Mao, Sarah read Sun Tzu)
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To: MNDude
Children, my arse. These are thugs who are reveling in violence against whitey and getting away with it.

No mention of the "knockout game" to be seen in this hand-wringing pile of BS. I suppose in their view, the guy about to be knocked off his feet for sport is to be condemned for wanting to defend himself.

ESAD.

59 posted on 08/23/2011 3:19:13 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: MNDude

what makes this clown of a police chief assume that noone will excercize any discretion, not call 911 and not retreat?

most people are not killers and will agonize over a decision to pop a cap into someone, but if the legal
justification exists they should not be denigrated beforehand, especially by a cop who can blow people away
for as little as having a hand in their pocket, and dogs
just for wagging their tail at them.


60 posted on 08/23/2011 3:19:39 PM PDT by RitchieAprile (The Democrat Party is a continuing criminal enterprise..)
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