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Hurricane Irene Live Thread
NHC NOAA ^ | 26 August 2011 | NHC/NOAA

Posted on 08/26/2011 9:40:24 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Approximately 65 million people are likely to be directly impacted by Hurricane Irene as the storm takes aim at the densely populated Eastern Seaboard. Evacuations are underway for high flood risk areas.

Mass transit cancellations, schedule changes and road/bridge closures are occurring throughout the storm warning areas. Please check with local news and Emergency Management Operations to determine the recommendations for your immediate area.


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KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricaneirene; irene; livethread; storm; tropical
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To: randita
"Reports of major #flooding around Norristown, Pa. Schuylkill River expected to reach major flood stage by Sunday evening."

Not surprised. The bottom of Norristown near the river is very low ground and prone to flooding. We're on a creek that drains into Wissahickon Creek, which in turns dumps into the Schuylkill River. The Schuylkill is quick to flood, as it is shallow and drains many local creeks. There are creeks all over this area, and back in colonial times it was known for its many mills, which were powered by those very creeks. Fortunately we also tend to drain quickly once the rains stop. The same can't be said for the Delaware River. With all the rain north of us, flooding on the Delaware could be pretty serious over several days.

1,851 posted on 08/27/2011 9:00:44 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: mojitojoe; NautiNurse; fatima; STARWISE; oldteen; tiapam

Hundreds of thousands of people have evacuated their homes these past two days. Nine people have lost their lives (so far). Power is out to millions of homes. Flooding is destroying many businesses and homes. Trees are falling, and crushing anything in their way.

Nautinurse spent hours putting this thread together for those in harm’s way, before Hurricane Irene even hit land.

Thank you, NautiNurse, and all who have contributed in a logical, factual manner, sharing their personal experiences.

Please show respect, for those worried souls right now, and for the Hostess who has gone way above board, to put this thread together for us....

..............mojitojoe enjoy your evening, and..... have a good life.


1,852 posted on 08/27/2011 9:00:47 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: sitetest

Action news says Ocean City N.J. will have 20 foot waves plus storm surge.Dear God.


1,853 posted on 08/27/2011 9:01:17 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank you. Tired of the bickering.


1,854 posted on 08/27/2011 9:02:22 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: nutmeg

So, is it a total blowout like Gloria was??

or is it a real hurricane for CT?


1,855 posted on 08/27/2011 9:02:29 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: Religion Moderator

Are Shep Smith and Geraldo, of themselves a type of breaking news on the storm? Is that what you are saying?


1,856 posted on 08/27/2011 9:02:29 PM PDT by bvw
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To: NautiNurse
I just looked out the door. Nasty out there. Internet is getting slower... They are a tag team, occasionally running in a pack. Jackals.

Whatever the weather where they are, it still really sucks here and I'm glad you are in another hurricane free portion of it right now to give everyone else including me the best info out there.

1,857 posted on 08/27/2011 9:02:38 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: sitetest; patton
I've got a 15KW turned by a 30HP diesel tractor and I can't carry the whole house. Certain things kick on at the same time and you have a problem. Central air has a big start up surge current by itself, you can hear the diesel load up just with it kicking on.

Lots of people ruin their generators after a storm by trying to power up too much, especially the smaller 5 and 7.5KW units or they ruin the engines by not changing oil every 24 hours (engines without oil filters).

1,858 posted on 08/27/2011 9:02:52 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: NautiNurse

Dammit I want to go to bed but I dunno if the worst has passed us yet. Kids are already in bed for the night ::sigh:: Last update from NAS Patuxent River has winds from the NNW at 37mph gusting to 59mph.


1,859 posted on 08/27/2011 9:03:11 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: mojo114; NautiNurse; All

Comic relief Twitter post

The supermarket stimulus #irene created will be followed by gym stimulus to burn off 5 pounds I put on while storm snacking.

5 minutes ago


1,860 posted on 08/27/2011 9:04:12 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: P.O.E.
"I spent about a week this summer digging a “seep-away” near one of my basement trouble spots. Dug a big hole about 5 feet from the house and a trench down towards it, loaded with gravel. This should be a good test to see if it was worth it. (Well, I did get a tan & some exercise, so it shouldn’t be a total loss)."

I hope you'll update us on how it works. We have a trouble area near our Bilco door. Hubby did some drainage work but it's not working as well as he'd hoped, and I think we'll need to do something more aggressive.

1,861 posted on 08/27/2011 9:06:28 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: NoGrayZone

I will be here as long as I have electric. I’m also on LI. May God bless you and yours.


1,862 posted on 08/27/2011 9:06:47 PM PDT by Dec31,1999 (Have you read the Bagavad Gita? Well, you should. :) It's exactly where we are now.)
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To: STARWISE

Perfect! Sounds like they were here for our pre-hurricane party! Attendance was way down, so we have lots of food left for the during hurricane BBQ Sunday around noon-time.


1,863 posted on 08/27/2011 9:07:18 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: lainie
Oh, my...i don't know where it is, either. i think near lexington park/st mary's park.
1,864 posted on 08/27/2011 9:07:37 PM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: Severa

If you have a weather alert radio, it will scream for tornadoes, flash floods, etc. Night time hurricanes are the worst!


1,865 posted on 08/27/2011 9:09:36 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Drink good coffee. You can sleep when you are dead.)
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To: patton
Dear patton,

Our first single family house had 100 amp service. We were always blowing fuses. Our second house had 200 amp service, built in 1993. Didn't trip the circuit breakers very often, but it happened. As well, we had gas heat and a regular air conditioner, and only one zone.

This house has 400 amp service, but a big part of that is the “electric furnace” that comes on when it gets too cold for the heat pump to heat the house anymore in the winter. I'm told that those things are electric hogs. And I have TWO heat pumps, not one, for two-zone heating and cooling.

All things considered, since I have an all-electric house, my bills aren't too bad. Pretty decent insulation, the heat pumps were pretty efficient when we built the house 10 years ago (although they're no longer considered very efficient at all), we're careful about keeping the thermostat reasonable. All in all, it doesn't cost much more, when taking into inflation, to provide the electricity we need for everything, including heating and cooling, than we spent for electric + gas 10 years ago. And that house was only about 2300 sq ft, and this one is about 3200 sq ft.

But the peak usage to turn some things on, and to keep them on for the periods of time they need to be on, is pretty outrageous.


sitetest

1,866 posted on 08/27/2011 9:09:47 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Think free or die

Yeah, the Delaware is going to get hammered. A few weeks after Ivan, in 2004, we were canoeing the Delaware River near Bushkill. Ten or more feet up in trees there was debris stuck in branches which was left from the high water mark. Most of the island campsites were washed out and have not been reopened since then.

Partly as a result of that storm, a stretch of Rt. 206 which parallels the river near Bushkill (and frequently gets flooded) is going to be cut off from through traffic. It’s use will be limited to those using the DE Water Gap Recreation Area. A higher ground thru route is being constructed.


1,867 posted on 08/27/2011 9:09:54 PM PDT by randita (Obama - chains you can bereave in.)
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To: fatima

That’s so kind of you, ma’am. And the Religion Moderator came right after your comment to chase God away, I guess that is the only way to make sense of it now.


1,868 posted on 08/27/2011 9:09:58 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Severa

Go to sleep. I always sleep through hurricanes. Much less stressful than worrying about every bump and wail.


1,869 posted on 08/27/2011 9:10:30 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: The Cajun

Yeah, but...

My 7.5 KVA will run the entire house, excluding only the A/C. Heat is GFA, but we use wood instead... so really, it is running only a fridge, freezer, lights, and the computers/TVs.

Now way that needs even a SURGE of 7.5


1,870 posted on 08/27/2011 9:11:17 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: lainie
Dear lainie,

It appears to be a little above Route 5, near Great Mills. My friend is the pastor of the Catholic Church nearby.


sitetest

1,871 posted on 08/27/2011 9:14:13 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: NautiNurse
Why should I trust $39.99 personal weather stations from WalMart? For all I know, they are transmitting data from a junk box in a garage.

Looking at ~30 weather stations in my immediate locale, the wind speeds vary from 0.0-17.6 mph. Temps range from 86.7º-93.9ºF. Humidity range 21-92.7%. No sale. Not interested.

A few minutes ago, I looked at the stations in my vicinity (odd noises outside -- wildlife on the deck again, or perhaps wind?) and saw windspeeds scattered between 0.0 and 48.0 -- and I'm at the western end of NC: the 48 mph is pure fiction.

The closest Weather Underground station to me (semi-rural area) chronically misses most precipitation (wonder where the gauge is?). The next-closest WU station can't seem to stay online.

1,872 posted on 08/27/2011 9:14:13 PM PDT by Tea Party Hobbit (The RINOs lack all conviction, and the Dems are full of passionate intensity)
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To: Religion Moderator

Agree. I am not posting on this thread anymore. But since it is for storm info I just spoke with my sister in Maryland and my niece in NJ, that lives 2 miles from the beach. No winds near hurricane strength, lots of rain.


1,873 posted on 08/27/2011 9:15:59 PM PDT by mojitojoe (WH says potus didn’t feel the earthquake. No worries. Another is scheduled for November 2012)
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To: mojitojoe

Sad it is to say that you called the situation. A good thread moderator should have kindness and compassion for all and not just a clique. A vicious sort of clique can develop around an otherwise good person whose head gets inflated by lavish suckup-ism like a hurricane is fed by warm water and by that energy do a similar set of damages to a great forum.


1,874 posted on 08/27/2011 9:16:00 PM PDT by bvw
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To: STARWISE
Son in law #3 is on emergency calls for electric so Mar Mar is with us.He might not be back for a few weeks.Son in law #2 just fixed the electric sub pump and he came special.He is going home to his wife and 5 kids.Going to be fun driving home.
1,875 posted on 08/27/2011 9:16:29 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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To: sitetest

Interesting. Thanks for the info!


1,876 posted on 08/27/2011 9:16:51 PM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: NautiNurse

Yeah we have one of those, plus we’re signed up for the local CodeRED emergency notification system so the phones will ring (at least I hope they do if we have power) if there’s anything overnight. Husband says he’s probably going to stay up all night, he works second shift so its not outside the realm of possibility...


1,877 posted on 08/27/2011 9:17:26 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: NautiNurse

NautiNurse,

Thank you for a most excellent thread. I here there are now over 2 million without power and there is still a long way to go before Irene has run here course.

Please don’t let the anal emissions from a few select posters deter you.

I am sure some lives were saved by following this important thread. And many found comfort and helpful hints to ease distress & answer questions.

KUDOS


1,878 posted on 08/27/2011 9:18:41 PM PDT by sleddogs
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To: NautiNurse

NautiNurse,

Thank you for a most excellent thread. I here there are now over 2 million without power and there is still a long way to go before Irene has run here course.

Please don’t let the anal emissions from a few select posters deter you.

I am sure some lives were saved by following this important thread. And many found comfort and helpful hints to ease distress & answer questions.

KUDOS


1,879 posted on 08/27/2011 9:18:57 PM PDT by sleddogs
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To: sleddogs

The food of every tyrant.


1,880 posted on 08/27/2011 9:19:45 PM PDT by bvw
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To: NautiNurse
"If you have a weather alert radio, it will scream for tornadoes, flash floods, etc. Night time hurricanes are the worst!"

We were in Jackson, Tennessee in the spring of 2010, the weekend when Nashville was flooded. During the night, the weather alert radio was going off so often with hail, tornado and flood warnings that our cousin pulled the plug on it. There was nowhere to go, and nobody could get any sleep, so we just shut it up. The next morning we drove on the last open road out of the county heading to St. Louis. I'd never seen such flooding in my life. Fields and roadways turned into lakes, and water was everywhere as far as we could see. As we drove, we heard reports of water rescues, hospital evacuation, and tornado warnings just south of our route. Nature is powerful and quite sobering.

1,881 posted on 08/27/2011 9:20:05 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: abner

Good .. you’re set for food for tomorrow,
long as the fridge holds it all. Stay safe,
and God bless.


1,882 posted on 08/27/2011 9:20:09 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: The Cajun; patton
Dear The Cajun,

Yeah, what you said. ;-)

I know that we typically only run about 2500KWH in a month (maybe 3500 in a really, really hot summer month, or a bitterly-cold winter month).

That comes to maybe 4KW per hour on average, or thereabouts, over the course of a month.

But the refrigerator only comes on for a few minutes at a time, and then stays off sometimes for a few hours. The washer and dryer aren't on continuously, the dishwasher, maybe an average of 90 minutes per day.

And the heat pumps, thank God, are not on that much. And the electric furnace thingy in the heat pump is only on in the worst weather, for limited periods.

But when those suckers are on, boy do they suck juice.


sitetest

1,883 posted on 08/27/2011 9:21:08 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Dec31,1999; NautiNurse; All

Reuters
updated 2 hours 2 minutes ago 2011-08-28T04:15:44

Hoboken orders evacuation of shelter after flooding

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*snip*

“Hoboken faces worst case scenario. Flooding has begun. Moving Wallace Shelter residents to state shelter in east Rutherford,” the mayor’s tweet said as Hurricane Irene approached the region.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44302969

Not good.


1,884 posted on 08/27/2011 9:22:32 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: sleddogs

Lost power here in monmouth county about seven miles from Sandy Hook.


1,885 posted on 08/27/2011 9:22:40 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: fatima
"Crazy here,son in law #2 on his way sub pump stop working and backup only lasts 3 hours.SIL knows how to fix this.Pregnant daughter stressed.Help. "

((hugs))

1,886 posted on 08/27/2011 9:22:40 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: BIGLOOK

(((((Hugs)))))) Wonder if we will have our little shore place after this.Could cry but decided to drink.


1,887 posted on 08/27/2011 9:23:56 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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To: lainie; NautiNurse

Of roughly 235,000 homes serviced by BGE in Anne Arundel County, MD, approximately 90,000 are without power from the grid.


1,888 posted on 08/27/2011 9:26:22 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Interesting Times

Good luck to you.

Really seems to be winding down here — I hope!


1,889 posted on 08/27/2011 9:26:37 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: fatima

LOL - you bad influence, you. I am off to bed. Laughing.


1,890 posted on 08/27/2011 9:27:41 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: Religion Moderator

I think Irene has died this hour, but leaves a real mess and a non-cohesive broken storm front drifting almost aimlessly. Be interesting to see if the purveyors of weather-godism post the validations of their models.

Hysterias fuel the most godawful of religions. Cults spring up in strange places.


1,891 posted on 08/27/2011 9:28:22 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

No reports yet,just heard it touched down.


1,892 posted on 08/27/2011 9:30:00 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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To: patton
running only a fridge, freezer, lights, and the computers/TVs.

You have good sense and probably read instructions, not everybody does.

I'm a retired electronic tech and a relative called me to look at his fried 12KW, tried to run the central air and everything else, kept resetting breakers (all electric house).

A neighbor ruined the engine on his 7.5 by not changing the oil after running just about 24/7 for 3 weeks (just kept adding oil, never changed it).
Think he learned his lesson with the price of a new 14.5 HP OHV Briggs engine.

1,893 posted on 08/27/2011 9:30:24 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: Miss Didi

We taped our windows in Saudi, a bunch of nurses & techs, for defense against compression. The SCUDS came over every clear night, which was often. The Patriot missiles would hit them and that was worse; well. . . for the windows, at least- they did keep the SCUDS from hitting us.

The Fox News woman commented that tape (masking, as we used) might not be helpful in this strong wind as the type of compression- severe wind- would be so that the entire window could go through.


1,894 posted on 08/27/2011 9:30:29 PM PDT by stanne
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To: randita
"Most of the island campsites were washed out and have not been reopened since then."

Our sons really enjoyed the camp at Treasure Island Scout Reservation. Unfortunately, after two rounds of flooding, the local BSA council couldn't afford to keep restoring the camp and decided to close it in 2008. We were very sad to have it close, but if they had made repairs, I expect this storm would have wiped it out again.

1,895 posted on 08/27/2011 9:31:24 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: fatima

Thank God for your wonderful son. So, the water’s being pumped out .. whew! He didn’t want to bring the whole crew in for a family sleepover with y’all? Coulda been fun.

;)

Hope Mary is sleeping like a rock so she’s all relaxed.
God bless you all thru the night ..


1,896 posted on 08/27/2011 9:32:15 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Think free or die

No not yet.


1,897 posted on 08/27/2011 9:32:21 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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To: All
Manteo, NC


1,898 posted on 08/27/2011 9:33:08 PM PDT by randita (Obama - chains you can bereave in.)
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To: bvw
I am reading Rumsfeld's book, which is very interesting but slow going, as it is full of detail.

So I just looked forward to see what comments he would have made about Katrina.

Very interesting! A chapter is devoted to it, which starts with a quote:

"A lie will go around the world while the truth is pulling its boots on."

and then the first paragraph reads:

Tropical storm Katrina intensified to a category 5 hurricane on August 28, 2005, while it was still several hundred miles out in the Gulf of Mexico. Expecting landfall in the next 48 hours, the new NORTHCOM commander, Admiral Tim Keating, began issuing orders and alerts to military units across the United States. He deployed an advance headquarters to Camp Shelby, Mississippi, and created a staging area for FEMA at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana. The Department of Defense activated a hurricane operations cell in the Pentagon to monitor developments. Search-and-rescue aircrews were alerted that they might soon be needed. Navy ships with relief capabilities were ordered to proceed to the area.

(my underlining)

1,899 posted on 08/27/2011 9:33:38 PM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: Domestic Church

(((((Hugs)))))


1,900 posted on 08/27/2011 9:33:51 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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