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Mark Belling exposes union scam in Wisconsin
WISN Radio 1130 See podcast for 9/1/11 and 8/31/2011 ^ | 9/1/2011 | Mark Belling

Posted on 09/01/2011 3:18:44 PM PDT by ADSUM

Mark Belling Conservative Radio Talk Host (Also Guest Host for Rush Limbaugh) on WISN Radio 1130 in Milwaukee exposes a Wisconsin union scam.

Teachers retired and started collecting pension and health benefits have been rehired again as teachers for this year in same school district.

This is double dipping and certainly is costing the taxpayers and also new teacher applicants that didn't get hired at a lower new teacher salary.


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Mark Belling on his radio show today (you can hear his podcast here - http://www.belling.com/) exposes teacher union scam.

Yesterday mark rerported on 2 teachers from North Lake School District that retired and started to collect their pension and health benefits have been rehired at their old salaries.

Today, he stated that this is more widespread and could be as high as 1000 teachers.

There has been no mention in the great WI newspaper Milwaukee Journal (sarc) and Belling stated they they could probably get the Pulitzer (again) if they would investigate and report the truth.

1 posted on 09/01/2011 3:18:49 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

Gotta be kickbacks to those making hiring decisions.


2 posted on 09/01/2011 3:23:14 PM PDT by umgud
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To: ADSUM

Does this mean they get their retirement and a salary?


3 posted on 09/01/2011 3:24:04 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Obama is bad luck for the US.)
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To: NoLibZone

>>Does this mean they get their retirement and a salary?<<

Exactly.


4 posted on 09/01/2011 3:25:18 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: NoLibZone

Yes. This is widespread according to my MPS mole . . .


5 posted on 09/01/2011 3:27:36 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: freedumb2003

He needs to pursue this.

It will push Mark way up the conservative pundit list.

Great job Mr Beling!


6 posted on 09/01/2011 3:28:26 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Obama is bad luck for the US.)
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To: ADSUM
Your link takes me to a place from which I can't (unless I have all night) find what you are referencing.

Wish I had some crumbs to trace my way back.


7 posted on 09/01/2011 3:30:08 PM PDT by capt. norm (Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never run out of material. c)
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To: ADSUM
Mark,

May I suggest that you hire security and keep a keen eye on your back from now on?

8 posted on 09/01/2011 3:30:10 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: ADSUM
They can't help it...they love and do it for the children! /S
9 posted on 09/01/2011 3:33:41 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: ADSUM

They’re not only being rehired, they’re being rehired to their same positions with their same seniority wages while collecting full pensions.


10 posted on 09/01/2011 3:33:42 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: ADSUM

I listened today...He also wondered if this double dipping phenomena was confined only to school districts...the concern is Wisco public employees may be doing the same thing :(


11 posted on 09/01/2011 3:35:28 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: capt. norm

http://www.newstalk1130.com/main.html


Podcast lower left corner...should be available for 24 hours, shortly after 6:00 p.m. tonite


12 posted on 09/01/2011 3:39:08 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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THOSE REDNECKS WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING!

13 posted on 09/01/2011 3:39:37 PM PDT by devolve (If my graphics offend you/HLS scroll down - If too large simply carefully back away from your PC)
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To: capt. norm

http://www.belling.com/cc-common/podcast.html

They haven’t posted the today’s podcast yet.

He is still on the air until 6 pm.


14 posted on 09/01/2011 3:40:35 PM PDT by ADSUM (Democracy works when citizens get involved and keep government honest.)
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To: ADSUM

I’ve listened to Mark for 16 years.
I am listening again today.

I was glad to hear him say that there is a WI State elected official (of course I can’t remember his name) that called the show off the air today, to say he is drafting legislation to stop this pillaging of our property tax dollars.

I am sick to death of public teachers and their buddies.

Our taxes are punitive. They are becoming a large percentage of our income. They really will tax people out of their homes.

Mark has said all year, that there really is no “low” too “low” for these publicly paid leeches. Retiring and drawing a pension and then getting re-hired by cronies on the school board and getting a full salary at the old pay rate while “retired”.....and then there are the “emeritus” retired public teachers who get paid for 3 years after they retire, for doing nothing. That story was around this spring here on FR too.

These people are ungrateful crooks.


15 posted on 09/01/2011 3:45:33 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 -The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Resisting Tyranny Since 1-20-2009)
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To: bushwon

“He also wondered if this double dipping phenomena was confined only to school districts”

I am so fortunate to work with a guy in the public utility business who is a double dipper. He worked for the Akron Ohio water district, then retired, on full pension, and then was hired to work in a suburban district. He gets great pay, and retirement too. He’s one of the laziest sobs I’ve ever had to cover for! Not only is he incredibly lazy, he couldn’t care less about his prime responsibility, the health and safety of the consumers! This jerk wouldn’t have lasted a week working for me. He’s making 4 times what I get!


16 posted on 09/01/2011 3:50:59 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: NoLibZone
Does this mean they get their retirement and a salary?

Wisconsin "public" employees (teachers, police, firefighters, game wardens, &c.) are covered by the Wisconsin Retirement System which allows a retiree to be rehired for full employment. The pension benefit is suspended during the new term of employment and additional information is collected to update maximum salary and length of employment duration statistics. The new factors are used to recalculate the pension to be started when the employee again retires. The ultimate pension number is based on the three highest salaried years and the total number of years employed.

Regards,
GtG

PS I really don't see why anyone would do that 'cuz it doesn't eliminate the rule changes on your health insurance. Retiring now a person would get the single person coverage WEA plan, which is $#100 deductible and pretty much everything else medical covered.

17 posted on 09/01/2011 3:52:26 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: NoLibZone

They do it here in Texas as well. I have a friend who retired two years ago from teaching took a year off to travel and is now back as a teacher collecting his pension and teacher pay. He did have to move to a different school district. He of course is a Yellow Dog democRat and sees nothing wrong with what he is doing.


18 posted on 09/01/2011 3:54:36 PM PDT by BubbaBobTX ("The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: umgud

Re: kickbacks.

In a lot of cases, those on the school boards are spouses of those on the other side of the “negotiating” table. And if they are not spouses, they are other relatives or friends, or former teachers themselves.

What we’ve had in WI for decades, are school boards that are nothing more than partners in crime with the teacher’s union and public teachers.

They’re all on the same side, with the taxpayer having no say at all.

It will take years to root out all the corruption. This double dipping scam is technically legal, but morally bankrupt. Like so many things that liberals do.


19 posted on 09/01/2011 3:54:36 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 -The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Resisting Tyranny Since 1-20-2009)
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To: BubbaBobTX

“They do it here in Texas as well.”

I was under the impression that only teaching jobs in shortage fields - mathematics, reading specialists, special ed - would qualify for hire / rehire teachers. I knew a few teachers in the program also, but the school districts have found younger and less expensive teachers.


20 posted on 09/01/2011 4:29:01 PM PDT by texteacher
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To: BubbaBobTX

It’s happening in Georgia, as well. I have a friend, whose brother taught college and he did exactly the same thing—retired, traveled and came back for some double-dipping.

ALSO a stinkin’ lib, that figures he’s entitled.


21 posted on 09/01/2011 4:41:44 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: freedumb2003

This happens all the time all across this country with governmental entities. Same here in Georgia.


22 posted on 09/01/2011 4:46:39 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: ADSUM

I think it’s happening all over the country. The local or state gov’t considers it a cost saving move because the double dippers only get salary but no additional retirement benefits. The gov’t doesn’t have to pay into the double dippers’ retirement fund because they’re already retired.


23 posted on 09/01/2011 4:48:04 PM PDT by etcetera ( “If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.” - Will Rogers)
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To: etcetera

Just wow. How about hiring younger teachers like two young guys I know who got Ed degrees in the last couple years and are now working in mortgage foreclosure processing.


24 posted on 09/01/2011 4:55:54 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: NoLibZone

There’s probably a million public employees all told in this country running some form of the double dipping scam. Was joking about it with a friend of mine who works for the post office - I rattled off a list of ways he could scam the system like this. My friend has too much integrity to do it (he was embarrassed at my suggest, however sarcastic it was) but he responded by rattling off a list of his co-workers who are doing exactly that. And the USPS is relatively clean as far as government agencies go...


25 posted on 09/01/2011 4:56:01 PM PDT by icanhasbailout
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To: ADSUM

“Union scam”??????

I am shocked ...SHOCKED!!!


26 posted on 09/01/2011 4:56:10 PM PDT by Walrus (You can't begin a revolution with establishment leaders)
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To: Walrus

Happens in NC all the time. My wife is a teacher and we have friends that are retired in one school district and teaching in another district.


27 posted on 09/01/2011 5:34:08 PM PDT by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: ADSUM

It’s called “T” drop in Arkansas, been doing this for several years, mostly school Administrators and State mgmt employees.


28 posted on 09/01/2011 5:35:10 PM PDT by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Neither is Collectivism!)
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To: Billyv

Leaches. Parasites.


29 posted on 09/01/2011 5:37:57 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: BubbaBobTX

New Jersey, too.


30 posted on 09/01/2011 5:44:17 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
The pension benefit is suspended during the new term of employment ... PS I really don't see why anyone would do that 'cuz it doesn't eliminate the rule changes on your health insurance. Retiring now a person would get the single person coverage WEA plan, which is $#100 deductible and pretty much everything else medical covered.

I'm thinking a game is being played upon the "suspended part. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts someone figured out that by commencing the pension, then suspending it locks the then current rules into effect for the life of the pension. Dunno if that is illegal but if so, then there are conspiracy charges galore.

31 posted on 09/01/2011 5:53:04 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (So much stress was put on Bush's Fault that it finally let go, magnitude 6)
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TIMMY: You double-dipped the chip!
GEORGE: "Double-dipped"? What are you talking about?
TIMMY: You dipped the chip. You took a bite. And you dipped again.
GEORGE: So…?
TIMMY: That's like putting your whole mouth right in the dip! From now on, when you take a chip – just take one dip and end it!
GEORGE: Well, I'm sorry, Timmy … but I don't dip that way. [George takes a chip]
TIMMY: Oh, you don't, huh?
GEORGE: No. [dips the chip] You dip the way you want to dip … [takes a bite of the chip] I'll dip the way I want to dip. [double-dips the chip]

George is a lib

32 posted on 09/01/2011 5:56:05 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: ADSUM

Great reporting and now Mark Belling needs to go public with the names & addresses of these double dipping scumbag union bastards. I late liberals & demoRATs & unions more every time their filthy names are mentioned. Right up there with my hatred for kenyan commie RAT bastard himself, 0dumb0!!!


33 posted on 09/01/2011 5:58:02 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: ADSUM

This happens in Ohio all the time as well. It’s usually administrators and coaches. The few regular classroom teachers who do it are usually the worst teachers. The good teachers are usually too worn out to keep going.


34 posted on 09/01/2011 5:58:15 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: ADSUM

There are a couple of teachers doing this in my district-Mequon. (a suburb of Milwaukee). This is likely why teachers are retiring at a somewhat increased level. I have some FOIA requests in the pipeline. Assemblyman Duey Stroebel says he’s going to introduce some anti-double dipping legislation.
The other big scam is the amount of overcharging by WEA (teacher union) The teacher’s union forced school districts to accept no-bid contracts for teacher health insurance. Now that we have Walker’s reforms, some districts have saved 300k/yr by dropping WEA insurance. So think of how much money has been wasted over the last 10 years in the state! It’s criminal. We need a state insurance investigation of WEA.


35 posted on 09/01/2011 5:58:35 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: freedumb2003

We have dirtballs in our local government that are collecting 2 pensions and a salary, and working on their 3rd pension. Menial positions are making $200,000 per year.


36 posted on 09/01/2011 6:01:02 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: hal ogen

And those are their good qualities.../s


37 posted on 09/01/2011 6:01:39 PM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: ADSUM

It sounds like they’re trying to lock in their pension benefits before reforms kick in.


38 posted on 09/01/2011 6:03:10 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

>> This jerk wouldn’t have lasted a week working for me. He’s making 4 times what I get!<<

The art of overfeeding at the public trough is a leftward art, taught beginning in early childhood and cultivated beginning day 1 of the first civil service job.

That is why it is unavailable to Conservatives and/or those with the tiniest shred of moral values.


39 posted on 09/01/2011 6:27:46 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: ADSUM
He's a decent stand in for Rush too. Not as good as the good Mark but better than the other one.

The good Mark is too likeable. I'm guessing he won't be doing many more substitutions for Rush.

40 posted on 09/01/2011 6:30:52 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: ADSUM

This is very common, and is more a school board scam than a union scam. Ultimately, the school boards do the hiring.

I think the advantage for the school district is that they don’t have to fund an additional health policy and retirement year.


41 posted on 09/01/2011 6:32:22 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: ADSUM

Union thuggery BUMP!


42 posted on 09/01/2011 6:48:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: TheConservativeParty

How about the new legislation make them pay the double dipping salary back to the tax payers they ripped off?


43 posted on 09/01/2011 6:52:10 PM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: umgud
Gotta be kickbacks to those making hiring decisions ” most managers are former union members and union supporters. They get all the extra benefits too. What they do not want to do is hire is new young people who might worry more about layoffs than squeezing every last cent from the taxpayers.
44 posted on 09/01/2011 7:22:56 PM PDT by Hamilcar_Barca
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To: ADSUM

I don’t know how prevalent this is around the country, but NC used to allow the same thing.

You can imagine the cost of retaining a principal at the 35th year pay scale while he or she was getting retirement based on the average of the three highest paid years.

NC stopped this several years back.


45 posted on 09/01/2011 7:36:29 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: ADSUM; Diana in Wisconsin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ...
Public school teachers ripping taxpayers off?? NOOO! That cant be true. They love their kids.

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46 posted on 09/01/2011 9:34:32 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: ADSUM

Since when is double-dipping considered a scam? This has been going on for ages. I personally know several people who “retired” from their positions as teachers only to be rehired as “mentors” at a different school for the exact same salary. So they do even less work, plus pull in a full time salary and a pension. I also know a cop who retired from one town, then went to the next town and got hired as chief of police. So he’s getting his chief salary plus retirement pension.


47 posted on 09/01/2011 10:33:05 PM PDT by ponygirl (Okay, so you're not a racist. Who are you going to vote for in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot?)
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To: sickoflibs
RE: "Public school teachers ripping taxpayers off?? NOOO! That cant be true. They love their kids."
Actually I believe it would be perhaps a bit more accurate to say they follow the premises set forth in the Marxist doctrine initiated so many years back in Europe then spreading to the then un-raveling Czarist Russia with Lenin's careful ears... back in those fateful days shortly after the turn of the century. My last comments for this early morning. Do have a great upcoming day.
48 posted on 09/01/2011 10:56:55 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: NoLibZone; freedumb2003

Exactly, and sometimes an additional stipend because they are not taking health insurance in their new job because they already have retiree health insurance.

But, it isn’t just teachers. My town (Mequon) rehired the Dir. of Public Works after retirement. And the Village of Grafton did the same with their Police Chief a few years ago.

This practice is rampant.


49 posted on 09/02/2011 2:16:17 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: xzins
Ultimately, the school boards do the hiring.

Frequently the School Boards are made up of former teachers.

50 posted on 09/02/2011 2:23:59 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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