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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #5 - Sep. 12, 2011 8pm/5pm: Tampa, FL (CNN)
2012 Election Central ^ | Sept. 12, 2011 | CNN/Tea Party Express

Posted on 09/12/2011 7:14:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: CNN

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Jon Huntsman

Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.


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To: P-Marlowe

I can’t say, but I personally believe it was. It was pulling big banks and freddie/fannie out of the fire for bad loans. In their defense Barnie Frank forced them to make the loans.

I’m still suspicious of all this monetary system stuff, though. If you recall, George Bush I bailed out the Savings and Loans.

They both had a “crisis” with monetary institutions that required bailing them out....like it was a family business or something.


1,881 posted on 09/12/2011 8:52:58 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: P-Marlowe
Those kids didn't break the laws. Their parents did. And their parents broke the law because the Federal Government has refused to enforce it.
What do you propose we do with these kids after they graduate from High School having never lived a minute in another country? Deport them to a country they have never known?
I'm sorry but my Christianity compels me to have some semblance of mercey, especially on the innocent.
BTW I dare say that none of the current crop of candidates would say that these children who were brought here through no fault of their own should be treated as criminals. Not Perry, Not Palin, not anybody.

So, you would be okay if your child was denied admission to the school of their dreams because these kids are taking up the slots? BTW - they will also get in on relaxed admission standards for the sake of "diversity." That is just not right no matter how you cut it. You wonder why these kids should be "treated like criminals" -- what about OUR kids who might not be even getting into these schools because we tolerate this?

1,882 posted on 09/12/2011 8:53:20 PM PDT by CurlyBill (1-20-13 can't get here fast enough!)
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To: KansasGirl

There is NO financial help on tuition, they have to pay it themselves but at the in-state rate. Like other kids who attended high school in Texas for at least three years.


1,883 posted on 09/12/2011 8:53:42 PM PDT by active citizen
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To: miss marmelstein

I’m married to a Texan. I think Texas men are doers not talkers.


1,884 posted on 09/12/2011 8:53:46 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: bvw

I’ve been visiting this site for years, but tonight I had to sign up to join this conversation. I know of two women who have HPV, precancerous cells that need to be addressed every six months. One woman has had one partner in her lifetime, the other has had two. Both are faithful, modest married women. They live with the worry of cancer because of choices their spouses made before marriage. All vaccines have risk. I believe Perry when he says he felt he was protecting life and fighting cancer. He may have gone about it in the wrong way but I think his motive was pure. After hearing the stories of these two women, my sixteen year old daughter and I decided to go ahead with the shots for her. One of the women is her pediatrician.


1,885 posted on 09/12/2011 8:53:52 PM PDT by honeybolie (go Sarah go)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Amen.


1,886 posted on 09/12/2011 8:53:54 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

sounds fair to me


1,887 posted on 09/12/2011 8:54:16 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Kenny
Is Sarah helping to knock off the top contender? I know everyone is going to give me hell for asking but it’s a serious question.

Well isn't that the goal of any presidential candidate? In a related story, the New England Patriots took the field tonight to knock off the Miami Dolphins. I know everybody is going to give me crap for stating that, but there it is.

1,888 posted on 09/12/2011 8:54:18 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Waiting for Palin)
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To: EDINVA
It seems to me inappropriate for Sarah Palin to be bashing anyone in the debates,

First amendment sucks, doesn't it?

1,889 posted on 09/12/2011 8:54:50 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Tennessee Nana

How Mitt and Ann Romney conduct their marriage — with or without the context of their faith — is none of your business.

You deliberately brought up Ann Romney’s health issue in an effort to attack her husband. You can oppose Mitt Romney all you want, but let’s leave Ann Romney out of it.

Very bad taste.


1,890 posted on 09/12/2011 8:54:50 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: Lakeshark

Horse has been beaten.

I see it my way you see it yours.

It really wasn’t too much trouble for my wife and I to be involved in our children’s lives.


1,891 posted on 09/12/2011 8:55:12 PM PDT by Eaker ("If someone misquotes you, it's because they know you're right.")
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To: potlatch

http://www3.mdanderson.org/streams/FullVideoPlayer.cfm?xml=publicEd%2Fconfig%2FFoH-Jan10_HPVtesting-QA_cfg

Good link and audio about HPV from MD Anderson Cancer Center.

It is estimated that 80-90% of women will be HPV positive at some point in their life.


1,892 posted on 09/12/2011 8:55:24 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: xzins
It was an unnecessary self-inflicted wound, and it sounded goofy and out-of-touch the way she said it.

Those who live by the soundbite will die by the soundbite.

A time to tear apart and a time to sew together; A time to be silent and a time to speak. Ecc 3:7 NASB

1,893 posted on 09/12/2011 8:55:46 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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Republicans like Cain can absolutely say that they are pro business and pro worker. It isn’t the workers who hire the businesses, it is the businesses who hire the workers. And unless the business are confident about the future, there aren’t going to be any workers.


1,894 posted on 09/12/2011 8:56:41 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: newzjunkey

FWIW, probably not much, here is my ratings on the Tea Party Debate. Surprisingly, CNN did a better job than Fox and DNCMSNBC in moderating the debate.

1. Gingrich - winner or second place for the third time for the effective zingers he got in. Unquestionably the best debater, but modified by the fact that nobody is going after him because he doesn’t have a chance.
2. Bachmann - stood her ground and won the Gardisil and wetback debate with Perry; she still seems somewhat one dimensional with the Obama care business but overall the stood out from the non-Newt crowd.
3. Huntsman - again exuded confidence and won all barb throwing contests; yes I know he’s a lib but hey this is about debate points.
4. Santorum - kicked Perry’s derriere and Paul’s derriere on several issues, but he was riding on the back of Bachmann on most of them; nevertheless, his overall best performance of the debate season; he does need to stop talking about winning elections since he got his derriere kicked in his last race and also endorsed Specter (a James Bond enemy).
5. Romney - he actually engaged and looked at those who were speaking (unlike Perry who seldom looked at the speakers) and held his own even though the crowd obviously had some animosity toward him. He was engaging and affable (he out politicianed Perry the supposed master politician).
6. Perry - lost big time on the subject of Gardisil and wetbacks (state tuition for wets); that overshadowed any other good points he might have scored earlier. He’s going to have to get his feces together better if he wants to get into prime time.
7. Cain - 9/9/9, what else did he say? A nice guy, but nice guys finish last, or in this case next to last.
8. Paul - the Village Idiot is...well just the village idiot.

Note: Bachmann also handled a post debate interview with John Queen (or is it King) well. Maybe, hopefully, her ability to deal with the media is improving.

I had no agenda in the ratings, but if you’ve got the propane, flame away.


1,895 posted on 09/12/2011 8:56:46 PM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: Hugin

999 is 666 upside-down. Coinkidink?


1,896 posted on 09/12/2011 8:57:45 PM PDT by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: Enterprise

“Huntsman gets a good point ... about...employment.”

If any of the wealthy on these platforms says one darned thing about a situation they have no knowledge of, like having to scrape their knuckles or work with a broken leg/foot/fingers, I have nothing to say to them. People like Huntsman and Romney are too far removed from shopping at Dollar General. It’s like Pelosi complaining that everyone she knew was employed and doing fine.

I don’t want to see Tahitian pearl necklaces and Bruno Magli boots. Such people don’t know most of the folks I know and never intend to get to know them.


1,897 posted on 09/12/2011 8:58:19 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: P-Marlowe; Friendofgeorge

>> Would you say that the TARP Bailout is a good example of “crony capitalism”? <<

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I would call it graft. - If its crony anything, its crony socialism, since all of the CEOs and COBs of the corporations and international banks that received it were socialists, not capitalists.


1,898 posted on 09/12/2011 8:58:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: bvw
It’s all due to quantum entanglement.

Ironically that is the excuse I used for being late to work today.

1,899 posted on 09/12/2011 8:58:50 PM PDT by Eaker ("If someone misquotes you, it's because they know you're right.")
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To: Just mythoughts
[I shudder that kids have been so sexualized by the hollywood and political culture that drug companies had the foresight to create a drug to protect them.]

The drug had probably been created years earlier for adults, I have not looked into that.

Perry believes in State rights, which is a proper thing for a President to do.

I may destroy your ‘kind thoughts’ of me, but there is no perfect candidate - not even the one so many think is.

You probably live in a city that mandates some taxes, zoning laws, some restrictions on what you can and cannot do. Most people do.

I love Texas and live very comfortably here and Perry's been Governor going on 11 years.

1,900 posted on 09/12/2011 8:59:16 PM PDT by potlatch (Two Eyes, Two Ears, One Mouth - Use Them Proportionately)
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