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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #5 - Sep. 12, 2011 8pm/5pm: Tampa, FL (CNN)
2012 Election Central ^ | Sept. 12, 2011 | CNN/Tea Party Express

Posted on 09/12/2011 7:14:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: CNN

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Jon Huntsman

Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.


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To: teg_76

Perry blaming the feds for millions of illegals in Texas...He’s an innocent by-stander....No wall Perry says...


901 posted on 09/12/2011 6:31:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I suspect that a mandate requiring Gardasil except when opting out made it covered by insurance for all who took it…

Correct. In 2005, the Texas legislature directed a study be done on how to reduce and eliminate cervical cancer and report to the governor. The report came in 2006 and said vaccination met the goal. Perry signed the order in 2007 not only having opt-out per Texas law but making it easier than every to opt-out. The reason it was opt-out, not opt-in, was to ensure coverage by Medicaid and health insurance providers.

902 posted on 09/12/2011 6:31:27 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: teg_76
You're right - he isn't a dynamic debater. He looked flummoxed by Bachmann & Santorum’s attacks.

Bachmann suddenly came to life with the executive order question and now she's a big bitch to a lot of people. Go figure.

903 posted on 09/12/2011 6:31:43 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: mylife

“Good debate tonight”

Yeah I find it interesting.


904 posted on 09/12/2011 6:31:43 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: jackv

Where did you dig up those statics from?


905 posted on 09/12/2011 6:31:43 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: newzjunkey

Santorum muddles the illegals issue.

You can’t enforce the law and NOT throw illegals out, because being here illegally IS against the law.


906 posted on 09/12/2011 6:31:46 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: rodguy911

I guess Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain come the closest...but Perry IS conservative. The rest...not so much.


907 posted on 09/12/2011 6:31:46 PM PDT by luvie (Obama is E V I L!!! RUN, SARAH---RUN!!!)
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To: Friendofgeorge

[He left it open that he could be bought if it was more money]

He did not! He said, “if you think I could be bought for $5000, I’m offended.” I guess you could interpret it your way if you wanted to twist it to attack him, but only the same people who would attack him anyway will.


908 posted on 09/12/2011 6:31:46 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: KansasGirl

Sick and twisted too. Says a lot about the original poster.


909 posted on 09/12/2011 6:31:52 PM PDT by pgkdan (Perry/Cain 2012)
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To: Friendofgeorge

Oh please. it was a joke to shut her up after her rant ad nauseum.
Good for him!


910 posted on 09/12/2011 6:31:52 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS AMERICA !)
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To: Allegra

Allegra...I’m shocked. You’re not a Ron Paul supporter? LOL!


911 posted on 09/12/2011 6:32:19 PM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: justice14

He did admit it was a mistake. He wished he’d handled it legislatively and not by EO.


912 posted on 09/12/2011 6:32:22 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: All

I don’t have the debate on but for the record even if I am supporting Perry I don’t mind him being dinged on the Gardisol thing. I didn’t hear exactly what they said but in theory That’s legitimate debate fodder. The reason I was upset over the Social Security thing is they were attacking with Leftist talking points. I consider the illegal aliens thing fair game too although since everyone but Cain has come out for amnesty they don’t have much room to talk.

But I expect people running in the Republican primary to not adopt the Left’s points cynically to attempt to mediscare old people and damage potential candidates running against Obama by giving the Democrats campaign ads.

Now if people want to ding candidates for positions that are up for debate as being conservative or argue on issues where conservatives have legit differences...okay with me. I learned from Bush. You can support someone but should never allow them to think you will EVER cover for them when they are wrong. If we had spoken up sooner then his second term maybe his domestic policy would have been more conservative.


913 posted on 09/12/2011 6:32:28 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: CaptainK

Perry: We know how to secure the borders, but gave in state tuition to illegals...


914 posted on 09/12/2011 6:32:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

>>You can opt out.<<

First, I homeschool.
Second, why should I have to fill out a form to ‘opt out’ of any decision about my child. Santorum had it right, why wasn’t it an ‘opt in’ instead?


915 posted on 09/12/2011 6:32:28 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: dragnet2
He WILL lose on this issue.

You don't go from 'border fences are silly' in 2009 to 'I'm for strategic border fences' without a full explanation- which he has not done.

916 posted on 09/12/2011 6:32:35 PM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: RitaOK

Santorum not answering the question about what to do with the illegals here.

Perry up now. Says the Fed. gov’t has been an abysmal failure on the border, and has cost Texas mucho.

Perry not for wall—says need 4500 Border Patrol, NAtional Guard, aviation assets.

Says Fed Gov’t needs to step up and do their “traditional” duty(hey, Rick, it a CONSTITUTIONAL duty to defend the borders)


917 posted on 09/12/2011 6:32:35 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: swpa_mom

His plan is not difficult at all. It is a short term Flat Tax that leads into Fair Tax and abolishes the IRS. http://www.hermancain.com/images/economicgrowth.pdf


918 posted on 09/12/2011 6:32:35 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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To: DRey

Santorumn taking cheap shots


919 posted on 09/12/2011 6:32:41 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: daler

Absolutely correct. He’s been extremely bold, concise and forthright. He’s been on point very well (even if he’s using some of Palin’s material), he’s articluating a position for other candidates to build on. He’d have a spot in the next adminstration, even if advisory.


920 posted on 09/12/2011 6:33:13 PM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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