Chris Christie Reconsidering 2012 Run, Will Decide in Days

Newsmax via Drudge ^

[MEG33]

I did it last late night..I may not post much but I read a lot.
I am waiting to make my choice..I like Perry but he is a terrible debater..I like Palin but she has not declared..I like Cain but worry about his lack of experience..Newt is great in the debates but has way too much baggage. Newt was once my hero long ago..but he can’t lead and gets mushy.

I am definitely ABO

[heye2monn]

The Wall Street Journal-Ann Coulter-Bill Kristol axis doesn’t care if Christie’s been in office for only five minutes, with no national name recognition, who-knows-what skeletons in his closet, with no Palin-or-Perry zest for campaigning with crowds, New Joisie accent, gigantic weight problem, and RINO on social issues.

The Eastern Seaboard elites don’t care about all those flaws. So long as as the name is not Palin or Perry.

[grey_whiskers]

Well, that's interesting.

Here I was tempted to believe you were trying to take credit for someone else's dropping the dime :-)

But...since you were kind enough to address me directly, and then proceed to substance, let's converse on that level.

I have several fundamental disagreements with Perry on policy, so he's out.

(Using the EO on Gardasil and then claiming it couldn't be overridden by the legislature, then claiming "he's listened to the public" once they DID override him; doing the EO "to get Medicaid funding" but claiming to run to get the Feds out of our lives; being a globalist (e.g. the Trans Texas Corridor's tolls were to be collected by a Spanish company); pandering to illegals (Texas Dream Act setting ILLEGAL aliens on an equal footing with some US citizens, and above others); "pay-to-play" (too numerous to mention, but it includes > $10 million to Countrywide financial and a $55 million slush fund from rich backers to Blitzkrieg the GOP primary process).

And the fact that he has shown in the debates that he is just bone-crushingly *STUPID*: he had Romney right in his sights with the "flip-flop" speech all memorized and flubbed it: and if Obama is a post-turtle, Perry is a post.

He is a creature of his handlers and backers, and is too reliant on bragging about TEXAS for a national audience: what plays when running for the GOP Governor's office in Texas won't play when running for the President of all the US -- you can brag about your state but do it in a self-deprecating way, with humor, not like an aggressive tire salesman poking his finger through a customer's chest ("Whoa, pal. You don't need four new tires; you need at least SIX. Don't he need six new tires, Chuck?")

Not to mention supporting GORE while REAGAN WAS STILL IN OFFICE: you can talk about 'the most conservative Democrat' but none of them can hold a candle to Renaldus Magnus.

I think Palin is going to declare; she's just waiting for a signal, or circumstances, known to her but not to us (Christie or Jeb entering in to weaken Romney; some significant hit on Obama, say Nader or Hillary declaring they will primary him?); but she's cutting it awfully close from a logistics point of view, even considering the boots already on the ground via Conservatives4Palin: and I wouldn't rule out the Dems trying dirty tricks to try to disqualify her from key primaries at a late date.

Cain's lack of experience is peculiar: he has been an executive, but only in the private sector. Which means that when you say "jump" everyone else says "How high?" and it doesn't work like that in D.C. And to make it worse, you have a hostile press deliberately MISreporting in the Dems' favor, to include leaks from your own side by people with an axe to grind. Palin has no illusions anymore about the Press, and has obviously learned a lot about playing them like a fiddle. I don't know if Cain has the luxury of *that* kind of a learning curve.

Newt -- if it weren't for his past affairs and the AGW sofa ad with Pelosi, he'd have grown on me. I'd like to see him as part of Cain's or Palin's "kitchen cabinet" (if you remember your US history and Andrew Jackson).

I'd like to be ABO but I don't know if I can quite stomach Romney or Perry or Ron Paul.

That's why I'm pulling for Palin so hard.

Rita: you claimed earlier I couldn't argue and had no substance, and I invited you to offer some substance rather than mindless cheering squad.

So here's a brief take of my opinions on the candidates. Cheers!

[MEG33]

I know your views on Perry and we Texans in general, gw..

I think if Palin is getting in ..it must be soon..I don’t do the guessing just when game ..

Cain just won the Florida straw vote BIG

[grey_whiskers]

I know your views on Perry and we Texans in general, gw..

OK -- did you note my comments on Cain? And that I had substantive policy disagreements with Perry, as well as his "campaign bedside manner"?

Palin has a trick up her sleeve: I've always had a hard time even surmising who she'd pick as VP -- my best guess (and I'm neither confident nor happy in it) would be Petraeus to shore up her foreign policy / military chops.

So I've tentatively concluded she's going to do something as far off the wall as when she resigned as Governor in Alaska in order to go on the offensive against the Dems.

Other than naming Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck as her VP, though, I can't imagine what it is.

Cheers!

[Gondring]

Now if you dare to say you would vote for someone like Romney if it was him vs Obama, you’re threatened as a zot.

Uh, more than "threatened".

Many people don't discuss conservatism here much anymore because you never know what will be deemed Politically Incorrect from day-to-day.

Some flip-flops I don't mind, like the more firm anti-illegal-immigration stance since the early days, but it's funny to hear people throw the term "RINO" out there without stopping to think of what it means. Heck, the "Republican" platform doesn't include eliminatino of the Department of Education, but I bet many think that a RINO would be in favor of keeping it.

[Gondring]

Perhaps not, and I didn’t say he would. But he’d win PA.

Yes, he would.

I'm not a big fan of Gov. Christie in many roles, but perhaps as POTUS at this juncture, he'd be better than our current one.

I disagree with his abortion stance, but I doubt that stance will be very relevant in this term anyway. We need to focus on winning both houses of Congress before thinking we're going to see much progress on some fronts.

But his anti-gun stance is an aspect where I see the potential for great harm.

[free me]

Christie is Pro-Life. He has cut off some state funding for the abortion mills in NJ since becoming Governor.

He used to say he was “pro-choice” but changed some years ago. Hist story about why he changed his mind is believable too.

[Gondring]

Christie is Pro-Life. He has cut off some state funding for the abortion mills in NJ since becoming Governor.

He used to say he was “pro-choice” but changed some years ago. Hist story about why he changed his mind is believable too.

Thanks for the correction/information!

[caww]

if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Verse was spoken to Israel...just for clarity.

However I do understand you're position. Yet I see that we ARE fast becoming a Godless nation every day...power/money does rule the day in the halls of Washington and among politicians of our day...just as it did throughout the Roman Empire.

Furthermore our Constitution is being trampled on, ignored, reconfigured and abused... and more like a rumple strip to pass over for those with power/and money/ and influences by.

If the powers that be feared "we the People" we would not be in the straits we see our country in today. Not only do they not fear the people, but we are used as cannon fodder amongst them while they fire their cannons between themselves.

I do not underestimate God's power to intervene in the whiles of men, but I also know He is also a God of Justice and our nation deserves this for how we have misaligned our priorities, allowed and encouraged corruption and all manner of evils in our country... opened our borders for the "hoards" to come in and with them an agenda of their own which is not American, rather serving their own interests and agendas in claiming and/or reclaiming this nation for themselves. While doing so we have our politicians pandering to them for their votes rather than taking firm stands for what is right for this nation.

The ONLY power we have is at the ballot box and we know the corruption there as well, which for that demands whoever we vote for now must be a landslide vote in order to stop the trajectory this nation is on.

We should be seeking Conservative candidates who 'believe' in what you have written...not many running do...rather they too play lip-service to what the people want to hear.

Our sin is not that we have not sought God...it's we've allowed Him to be pushed from the halls , schools, hospitals and every other institution of our great land....when it is we who should have stood at those times....they didn't grab the power...enough of us weren't paying attention while they rolled their people into place to change our laws...instill ridiculous ones..and basically set the parameters of control in place..

Money is not the problem...it's those who weld it for wrongdoing ...and we allow it to continue.

This primary election and vetting of candidates is revealing not just who the candidates are conservative or not, but even who are conservative or not here on FR.

Time will surely tell the whole story...it always does.

[free me]

This primary election and vetting of candidates is revealing not just who the candidates are conservative or not, but even who are conservative or not here on FR.
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That is so true, I noticed the same thing.

[Forty-Niner]

From the article......

“These Christie supporters note that significant GOP support has remained on the sidelines of the primary fight.”

Hint: They’re waiting for Sarah Palin to declare.....not Christie, or anyone else like him....

[SumProVita]

“That’s all I need to hate him....”

This nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Those principles afforded us a vision of freedom as a human right given to all humans by God. It was precisely because of this that we (overall) grew and prospered. Hate was NOT a part of that call. I heartily encourage you to go back and study what our Founding Fathers had to say about this. It is very inspiring....and eye-opening. Liberals don’t want to discuss (much less study) this. I hope you will...

Personally, I am repenting of falling short of God’s great gift to us (this nation) and asking Him to have mercy and heal us...so that we can Be and DO what He has called us to Think of the Light on the hill that Reagan so often referred to).

I sincerely wish you well.

;-)

[boatbums]

Take it from someone who is nearly twice your age, it doesn’t get any easier to “get in shape” the older you get. While it’s true that it’s never too late to start, the younger you are, the easier and quicker the results.

[Sola Veritas]

“Ann Coulter must be thrilled.”

Actually I think Coulter “loves” Romney. I think her life’s ambition is to be one of his plural wives.

[shield]

IF he jumps in this is really bad for mittens.

[Carry_Okie]

If Ronald Reagan himself came back from the dead and announced he was running, there would be people calling him a RINO.

Equine feces.

I am getting sick of the search for the “perfect” conservative that destroys our candidates while the Muslim Marxist sits back and laughs.

Perhaps you should consult the Gipper himself:

"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals of our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all." - Ronald Reagan

Don't let the truth bother you a bit. My experiences of electing RINOS have been disastrous, whether Bush, Arnold, or Nixon. Every one left conservatism in a weaker position than when he took office.

Every candidate is flawed. Instead of attacking each other and giving Hussein Obama fodder for his own ads, they should be attacking the Muslim Marxist non-stop.

And if the Marxist doesn't run and a "moderate" Hillary steps in? Here is the point: We need to be running against "socialist policies" not Obama, whether the presidency, governorships, or representative offices. It doesn't matter whether that candidate wears a Democrat or Republican label. The problem is the policies and the consequences therewith. That's why we don't elect RINOS, because their "socialist light" policies don't work and conservatives get the blame.

[presently no screen name]

Actually, I take that to mean that you have nothing.

Take it the way it was written, you simply just don't know! Either you aren't paying attention or you just don't get it.

[presently no screen name]

Verse was spoken to Israel...just for clarity

WOW! You think God's Way on how to heal one's land is different for other nations? There is only One Way, One Truth, One Life.

but I also know He is also a God of Justice and our nation deserves this for how we have misaligned our priorities, allowed and encouraged corruption and all manner of evils i...

And His wrath is coming for them but not until His Body/Church is taken out first for His children are not subject to His wrath.

The ONLY power we have is at the ballot box

That's a godless statement and being HS filled I would never agree to it!

This primary election and vetting of candidates is revealing not just who the candidates are conservative or not, but even who are conservative or not here on FR.

No it's not. For example, where is the vetting of Mitt or Cain?

Our sin is not that we have not sought God..

Wrong! I'm not agreeing with that either because God reigns in my life, I seek Him for everything. Like I said, His wrath is coming and His children are not subject to it. If you see yourself as part of 'our' so be it. I speak for myself.

[grey_whiskers]

Have you read Peter Marshall's The Light And The Glory?

Cheers!