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Now, somebody tell me Herman Cain can't win! (Vanity)
September 25, 2011 | no dems

Posted on 09/25/2011 6:34:42 AM PDT by no dems

I so tire of people saying: "Well, I like Herman Cain, but, he can't win." Well, I think the Florida Presidential Poll yesterday said differently. Cain received more votes than Perry-winkle and Rino Romney put together:

Cain: 37%

Perry: 15%

Romney:14%

And Perry worked his butt off and spent a lot of money. The Floridians ate the dummy's free breakfast, endured his perfunctory speech and then went and voted for someone who actually has some ideas and can put a sentence together and explain his ideas. I think it's time for Herman Cain to be taken seriously.


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1 posted on 09/25/2011 6:34:46 AM PDT by no dems
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To: no dems

And if Palin were in the mix??? Just curious.....


2 posted on 09/25/2011 6:37:48 AM PDT by shankbear (Bush's fault......that is more in bad taste than my old tag line........)
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To: shankbear

I was in the Perry boat previously but I have jumped ship for Cain. I think it would be awesome to have Cain be our next President!!


3 posted on 09/25/2011 6:38:53 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: no dems

The more I hear his message, the more I like him!


4 posted on 09/25/2011 6:39:42 AM PDT by sig229 (The loonie left "FLUNKED" human nature 101)
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To: no dems

Months ago I argued many times on this board that in 2012, someone like him could possibly do it. (Perhaps you did too). These are different times and with the tea party, the internet, blogs, talk radio, etc - candidates can get big time over night - and they can fall over night.

Case in point: Cain probably picked up a ton of ex Perry support at the last minute - leads him to win this prominent event - and now suddenly he’s everywhere again.

Will he win? Who knows, but I think this proves at least that it’s possible. This puts to rest the worn out thinking of the 80’s and 90’s about who can, and who cannot, possibly win.


5 posted on 09/25/2011 6:39:46 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: shankbear

Cain/Palin.


6 posted on 09/25/2011 6:39:57 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: no dems
I think of Cain as the anti-Obama: a person with REAL experience in private industry (turning around Burger King franchises and Godfather's Pizza!) and his experience at the Federal Reserve in Kansas City, MO makes him very knowledgeable about US national economic issues.
7 posted on 09/25/2011 6:40:36 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: no dems
Tell them that they're just racist.

LOL! Hey, if it's liberal, even if it's not true, it will feel great to throw their own crap in their face...

8 posted on 09/25/2011 6:40:39 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: no dems
"I like Herman Cain BUT he cannot win" (sic)

People who say this by and large really do not THINK Herman Cain cannot win. They DO NOT WANT Herman Cain to win. I am convinced.

"But(t) monkeys". That's all they are. They use up too much FR bandwith with their naysaying. Fuggedaboutit...

9 posted on 09/25/2011 6:41:52 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (I support HERMAN CAIN for President of the United States. - AmericanInTokyo)
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To: no dems

I like Herman a lot but let’s not overstate a poll that he got about 450 votes for, all of which he had to pay for.


10 posted on 09/25/2011 6:42:02 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: no dems

A blockbuster sized crowd attended Herman Cain’s meet and greet Friday night, forcing a last minute venue change to double the room size. People didn’t show up to eat Cain’s free food (there wasn’t any). They didn’t show up to stuff bags with free trinkets (Cain campaign buttons, signs and t-shirts were for sale, and every last item was purchased).


11 posted on 09/25/2011 6:42:11 AM PDT by NautiNurse (=> RPOF delegate voted for Hermain Cain. He's the dark horse candidate.)
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To: no dems
Look I like Herman Cain but he only has experience in the business/financial area. A president needs to be more diverse than that. Foreign policy, dealing with congress.. Now if he became someones VP he would be a great adviser and truly qualified to be president would be ready after her term was up.
12 posted on 09/25/2011 6:42:37 AM PDT by McGruff (Vetting - The process of examination and evaluation of a candidate's record.)
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To: no dems

I would vote for Cain in a heartbeat. He has something that most of the others don’t.... common sense. His gut has better advice thank all the political advisers. I also think he would be great at shaking up the status quo. From listening to him speak, I doubt he would put up with the BS that is going on in DC for long before the firing starts.


13 posted on 09/25/2011 6:43:22 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: no dems

I can support Cain over Perry and Romney the battling establishment crony politicians, but he needs to drop his national sales tax proposal. Imagine what the Dems will do with it once they regain power!
Why cant we simplify the tax code at say, 15% flat tax with no exemptions on all income? Capitol Gain, personal, and corporate?


14 posted on 09/25/2011 6:44:07 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: no dems
I like Herman Cain, he's charismatic, carries a simple, basic message that's not convoluted by a bunch of political-speak and he appears to be a problem solver which is what this country needs right now.

But let's be realistic: one debate and one straw poll does not a party candidate make.

What his victory proves is that the "conventional wisdom" that this is a two person race between Perry/Romney is wrong.

And THAT is why the lamestream media isn't talking about Cain's victory yesterday; it smacks the pundits and media in the face telling them that the American People won't have their candidate dictated to them.

Just my opinion.

15 posted on 09/25/2011 6:44:23 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Dutch Boy
I would vote for Cain in a heartbeat. He has something that most of the others don’t.... common sense

Me too. It's so refreshing to have a genuine private citizen in contention, instead of the typical career politicians. Somehow I have to believe this is what the founding fathers envisioned.

16 posted on 09/25/2011 6:47:13 AM PDT by Marathoner (Government schools = Marxist indoctrination centers)
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To: LRoggy

Big Media is spinning Cain’s FL win as a “vote for none of the above.”

They certainly don’t seem to fear Cain as much as they do Palin. No cowardly attacks on Cain, and based upon their history with any other black conservatives, they’re not holding back because of his skin color.

Big Media doesn’t seem to perceive Cain as a threat to Hussein, and I’m guessing it’s based upon the racist Dem voters, who will hold their noses and re-elect Hussein rather than trusting a black conservative that they’re trained to hate the most.


17 posted on 09/25/2011 6:49:23 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: no dems

Nothing against Cain, but if winning a straw poll predicts a general election outcome, Ron Paul would have been elected president about 20 times now.


18 posted on 09/25/2011 6:50:01 AM PDT by digger48
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To: no dems

Cain is well-liked, but does not have politcal experience.

His win in the Florida Straw Poll NOW proves he can win in the political arena.

It is as simple as that...many people were just waiting for Cain to prove himself, politcally.


19 posted on 09/25/2011 6:50:01 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: AmericanInTokyo
People who say this by and large really do not THINK Herman Cain cannot win. They DO NOT WANT Herman Cain to win. I am convinced.

You're wrong.

20 posted on 09/25/2011 6:51:17 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: no dems

I enjoyed the straw poll too but, please, let’s get real.

Herman got 900+ votes from GOP ACTIVISTS. The 2700 participants were dominated by people who are very conservative, which is wonderful in and of itself but not exactly typical of either the entire GOP or the electorate, nearly 50% of which lives off the government dole.

Cain as a VP choice for whomever emerges as the final GOP candidate would be great. Herman would devastate Biden in a debate and would win the admiration of a whole lot of rather uninterested voters once they got to know him.


21 posted on 09/25/2011 6:51:47 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: no dems
["I like Herman Cain, BUT....]

BUT>>>BUT>>>>BUT>>>>BUT>>>>BUT>>>>BUT>>>>BUT>>>>>

These people do not by and large like Herman Cain, in my opinion and already have other primary loyalties. Some may be in the process of having their sacred cows stepped on and it doesnt feel good I can get that, and empathize to some extent. BUT they really should be a little more honest here on FR if you ask me.

Sheesh. This is worse than DNC seminar callers. Youd' think they are operating from some kind of boilerplate template of sorts. Boring. Repetitive. Predictable.

22 posted on 09/25/2011 6:53:46 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (I support HERMAN CAIN for President of the United States. - AmericanInTokyo)
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To: no dems

Herman Cain to be taken seriously.


Herman Cain to be taken Very Seriously.


23 posted on 09/25/2011 6:54:06 AM PDT by bikerman
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To: no dems
Now, somebody tell me Herman Cain can't win! (Vanity)

Herman Cain can't win.

24 posted on 09/25/2011 6:54:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: no dems
Herman Cain

born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

”Herman

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!

25 posted on 09/25/2011 6:54:35 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: no dems
One thing is for damn sure, all the BS about it was between willard and dumbo, was stupid on parade. I was really sick of that front runner BS, Reagan was behind until the spring.
26 posted on 09/25/2011 6:55:51 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: Scanian

Biden is a better debater than Obama. So by that logic, I think Herman Cain could absolutely clean the floor with Obama, in all three Presidential debates. No doubt about it.


27 posted on 09/25/2011 6:56:44 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (I support HERMAN CAIN for President of the United States. - AmericanInTokyo)
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To: McGruff
Look I like Herman Cain but he only has experience in the business/financial area. A president needs to be more diverse than that. Foreign policy, dealing with congress..

LIKE OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT WAS EXPERIENCED?

28 posted on 09/25/2011 6:57:10 AM PDT by Lockbox (`)
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To: Boardwalk
Cain / Palin 2012 or Palin / Cain 2012.

I'd prefer the second, but the first would allow continuity after the first two terms.

Cheers!

29 posted on 09/25/2011 6:58:06 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: no dems
I like Cain, and I suspect he could win a presidental election running against Obama.

What I have more serious doubts about is that he could win the Republican Party nomination to get on the ballot.

After seeing what happened with Lisa Murkowski, I'd fully expect the Republican Party leadership to Bork him before they let him get the nomination instead of one of the chosen party insiders.

30 posted on 09/25/2011 6:59:07 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Scanian

Typical words of an establishment republican.


31 posted on 09/25/2011 7:00:09 AM PDT by CSI007 (re)
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To: tacticalogic

They will try, yes. Good observation. But they will not succeed. They will be consumed in a Tea Party grassroots fire of biblical proportions in 2012. People are PISSED (and they are in no mood for either the MSM OR the Party Elites telling them who is “top tier” and who isnt. They are just positioning at some time to start shutting conservative candidates out of the debates, till you have maybe two or three RINOS left to pick from. Wont have any of it this time around!


32 posted on 09/25/2011 7:01:28 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (I support HERMAN CAIN for President of the United States. - AmericanInTokyo)
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To: no dems
Now, somebody tell me Herman Cain can't win!

Okay, I'll say it. Herman Cain can't and won't win. He will not be our nominee. It's just not going to happen. Cain is a good guy and the grass roots love him, but when it comes time to actually cast real primary votes Cain won't get above 5% pretty much anywhere. As someone else said, if straw polls mattered much, Ron Paul would be President. In fact, straw polls matter so little that Bachmann won the biggest one in Iowa and immediately plummeted to Huntsman territory in national opinion polls.

33 posted on 09/25/2011 7:02:49 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: treetopsandroofs

The liberal spin is...if he’s a black conservative, he isn’t really black.

Absurd, I know.


34 posted on 09/25/2011 7:03:55 AM PDT by kjo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Wont have any of it this time around!

I wish I had your confidence, but it's been going to be different this time, every time, and it hasn't been yet.

35 posted on 09/25/2011 7:04:18 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: bgill

Cain / Rubio


36 posted on 09/25/2011 7:04:51 AM PDT by no dems (No matter who it might be, when I find out a person is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: no dems

37 posted on 09/25/2011 7:05:38 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I agree wholeheartedly. Ever since the McCain debacle, I give the RNC a piece of my mind when they call, which they do quite often. Ugh! They’ll not get another dime from me. I tell them I donate to individual CONSERVATIVE candidates ONLY. Then I hang up. If enough of us do this, maybe they’ll get the message.


38 posted on 09/25/2011 7:07:07 AM PDT by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: McGruff
"Look I like Herman Cain but he only has experience in the business/financial area."

I guess Eisenhower was underqualified, having spent his entire adult life only in the military/diplomatic area.

39 posted on 09/25/2011 7:08:22 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Boardwalk

“I was in the Perry boat previously but I have jumped ship for Cain. I think it would be awesome to have Cain be our next President!!”

Won’t happen. Obama would not run again, the libs would Hillary up and the dems talking point would be, “why do we need another black conservative running our country?”

And they would blame GWB for it.


40 posted on 09/25/2011 7:10:32 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarahcuda in 2012. Nothing but Net!!!)
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To: Boardwalk

I’m waiting for the media to say He has NO experience.

Herman Cain
Born on December 13, 1945 to Lenora Cain and Luther Cain Jr. in Memphis Tn.

Education:
B.A. Mathematics-Morehouse College 1967
M.S. Computer Science-Purdue University 1971
Honorary Degrees- Creighton, Johnson & Wales, Morehouse College, Nebraska, New York City Technical College, Purdue, Suffolk University, and Tougaloo College

Career:
Mathematician in Ballistics-U.S. navy
Business Analyst- The Coca-Cola Company
Vice President- Pillsbury
Regional VP- Burger King
President & CEO- Godfathers Pizza
Owner- Godfathers Pizza
CEO- National Restaurant Association
Board of Directors- Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City
Board of Directors- Aquila Inc.
Board of Directors- Nabisco
Board of Directors- Whirlpool
Board of Directors- Reader’s Digest
Board of Directors- AGCO Inc.
Radio Host- The Herman Cain Show
Author- CEO of Self
Author- Leadership is Common Sense
Author- Speak as a Leader
Author- They Think You’re Stupid


41 posted on 09/25/2011 7:12:13 AM PDT by barmag25 (Cain vs. Unable 2012)
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...and his experience at the Federal Reserve in Kansas City, MO...

Well, yeah, BUT...

As I've stated elsewhere, I wish we could get Cain to speak to the whole question of the Federal Reserve. I'd like to know exactly what his role was at the KC Fed.

Yes, I know some have said it was merely advisory. Perhaps. But I wonder why Herman hasn't said a word about it.

I'm not rejecting Cain outright because of his association with the Fed. For all I know it could be a plus, if he understands its importance. And when The Bernank was dangling QE3 out there, I wish Cain had said, "Don't even consider it". Hell, even Boehner did that.

Isn't it amazing that, apart from RuPaul (who only mentions it in passing), the subject of the Fed is never mentioned.

I know what Perry and Romney think of the Fed. Establishment all the way.

I'd like to hear Herman address the question.

Still, in all, Perry and Romney are unacceptable.

C'mon, Herman step up to the plate...

42 posted on 09/25/2011 7:12:23 AM PDT by THX 1138 ("Harry, I have a gift.")
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To: no dems

Love Herman, but he can’t win.

A thousand votes in Florida is not a national perspective.


43 posted on 09/25/2011 7:17:07 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: LRoggy

That’s Iowa’s way, not Florida’s. These straw poll voters actually had to pay, not the candidates.

There were “delegates” to this Straw Poll and it is way more accurate than Iowa’s.

I haven’t researched it myself but they are saying that every winner of the Presidency 5 has gone on to win the nomination.

Go Herman Cain!


44 posted on 09/25/2011 7:17:32 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: LRoggy
Herman Cain received 986 of the 2657 total votes. That's more than Perry's (410) and Romney's (372) totals COMBINED.

If everyone who says "I like Cain but...." would put their feet and money where their mouths are, Cain could win!

I'm 100% with Herman Cain. I hope y'all will join the Cain-Train.

45 posted on 09/25/2011 7:18:58 AM PDT by Prov3456
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To: AmericanInTokyo

When some makes a statement like “I like him but......” The qualifier is the ‘but” which makes everything before the but an untruth.


46 posted on 09/25/2011 7:21:06 AM PDT by svcw (It is who I am, it is what I do.)
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To: no dems
Herman Cain on Labels: I Won't Stay on the Democrat Plantation Like I Am Supposed To!
47 posted on 09/25/2011 7:24:55 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: THX 1138
Herman Cain has answered these questions many times ...

Glenn Beck interviews Herman Cain


48 posted on 09/25/2011 7:30:59 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: McGruff

Like Herman Cain/John Bolton? I could go for a ticket like that!


49 posted on 09/25/2011 7:37:22 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

This stuff about “it’s my turn” in the GOP has to stop! And the corollary is that the so-called “Republican Leadership” needs to be turned out. I’m glad that someone is going to take on Boner next year, and the Hatches and Lugars need to be gone from the Senate ( along with Mr. No Chin McConnell as soon as his term expires). It doesn’t do much good to elect 65 Tea Party Republicans to the House and let them be lead around by the nose by the likes of Boner.


50 posted on 09/25/2011 7:40:55 AM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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