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Helicopter Crashes Into New York City's East River
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Posted on 10/04/2011 12:43:38 PM PDT by Perdogg

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To: I still care

She had survived another helicopter crash earlier that same year.


21 posted on 10/04/2011 2:01:07 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Perdogg

We are 1 week away from the 5th anniversary of Cory Lidle’s crash into a NYC building while flying up the East River.


22 posted on 10/04/2011 2:11:41 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: raccoonradio

They are reporting one fatality and at least 2 in critical condition, with the other three (including the pilot) apparently either OK or not having life-threatening injuries.


24 posted on 10/04/2011 2:35:12 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Zeppo

Also reporting that the 2 in critical condition “may not make it”.


25 posted on 10/04/2011 2:41:31 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Perdogg

good gravy.


26 posted on 10/04/2011 6:04:19 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

>> Helicopters do not crash land gracefully.

Ever heard of autorotate?


27 posted on 10/04/2011 6:28:20 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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Ever heard of autorotate?

Yes, she was a member here a couple of years ago. I wonder what happened to her?

28 posted on 10/04/2011 6:31:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Perdogg

...37 bodies recovered so far...


29 posted on 10/04/2011 7:15:59 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Perdogg

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/148344/one-dead—four-injured-after-helicopter-crashes-in-east-river


30 posted on 10/04/2011 8:05:18 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Straight Vermonter
We are 1 week away from the 5th anniversary of Cory Lidle’s crash into a NYC building while flying up the East River.
I'll never forget that one. I not only saw the aftermath (I was walking to work), but almost lived in the Belaire, the building that was struck. Fortunately for me, I preffered an apartment in a building 4 blocks north between York and the FDR. It was still a close call as the plane passed within a few hundred feet of my building. (The crew fixing the A/c in the building that day saw the crash, having watched the small plane go down. It could have been worse. On 73th street (530 East 73rd) there is a apartment building with large glass windows. The risk for occupants in that building was far greater.
31 posted on 10/04/2011 8:29:02 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Rick_Michael

According to one witness, it was “flying around and around in circles” prior to impact.

Sure sounds to me like he lost a tail rotor.

In lay terms, that’s when the helicopter not only twirls the rotor (the big propeller on top) but the rotor twirls the helicopter. It is very difficult to control a twirling helicopter, and since the rotor is wasting energy twirling the ship in stead of keeping it up in the air, down she comes with all hands on board.

I have often wondered why they can’t install a directional control rocket (like they use to control space craft in orbit) on the tail boom to counter the torque if the tail rotor quits working.

You could put an emergency button next to the appropriate steering pedal that the pilot could kick in if he lost the tail rotor and at least reduce counter spin sufficiently to have a chance to make a controlled emergency landing in stead of spinning in.

A really good chopper jockey might be able to control direction somewhat with a combination of pitch and collective... Long enough to bring it down, perhaps.

You could build a whistle into it to scream “Look out below!!!” and a red distress/illumination flare exhaust if it had to be activated.


32 posted on 10/05/2011 11:43:21 AM PDT by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: George Varnum

Loss of tail rotor effectiveness or total loss...you’re suppose to immediately lower the collective. Allow the aircraft to settle and raise the collective as you get closer to the ground. Unfortunately if you have some altitude and you’re spinning it is hard to flare (do a full down auto as they would call it) and translate that energy to soften the landing. But yes, if they spin...that definitely challenges things at higher altitudes. A good pilot should recognize that immediately and enter the auto. But birds sometimes cause surprises.


33 posted on 10/05/2011 9:04:04 PM PDT by Rick_Michael ( 'REAL' Conservatives who witch hunt their own, are no better than Obama.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

negative, as a pilot I know that to be untrue. But given the situation, I would assume he had some tail rotor problems which complicate easier landings.

I’d much rather land a helicopter than an airplane, personally. Engine failures are easy in my experience (for heli’s).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPEJ07ecJvY


34 posted on 10/05/2011 9:06:31 PM PDT by Rick_Michael ( 'REAL' Conservatives who witch hunt their own, are no better than Obama.)
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To: rmlew
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Personally, I never cared for the frozen margarita. In my opinion, it gives bartenders a license to use cheaper ingredients while still charging top shelf price because the customer can't tell the difference (the crushed ice masks much of the flavor).

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35 posted on 09/27/2012 7:46:44 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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