Skip to comments.RASMUSSEN POLL: Cain 29% Romney 29% Gingrich 10%... Developing...
Posted on 10/13/2011 8:20:11 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To be fair, Perry had 9%. ho hum
Of course politicians never do things like that,
In GOP primaries the number of blacks is low so it has zero effect (e.g. even if 50% of the all black 0.01% GOP primary voters in Iowa vote for him, what is that in total..extra 2 votes?)
Same with New Hampshire too.
I was a Perry supporter when he first announced, but his debate performances have been awful. Debates aren’t always a big deal, but when they sway THIS many people, they WILL do the same in the general.
Obama could easily win just by Perry’s awful debating. Even Bush was better at debates than Perry.
When asked if he would accept a VP spot, Gingrich said he would not say no. It probably would depend on who the nominee was, but Cain and Newt like and respect one another.
Social Security and Medicare are withheld separately. The plan I linked to states only payroll taxes and I believe that term refers to federal income tax withholding alone.
I agree. I have not been a Cain supporter, but I know he has not proposed a VAT. In fact, he’s been pretty clear about it being a point-of-sale sales tax.
I prefer Gingrich, but his negatives scare me.
I want a clear, no wishy-washy position from Cain on LIFE. Pro-Life is not an issue....it is a God-given, unalienable RIGHT.
Wow. Wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
Thank you for the concise explanation. One of the pluses of Free Republic!!!
It’s a sales tax AND a VAT
I'll bet that in his executive experiences, Cain's had to deal with a lot of egos. I think he could work well with Newt. I'd love to see the look on Reid's face the day Gingrich enters the Senate chamber as ex officio President of the Senate.
No wonder the GOP establishment is coming out with guns loaded against the Tea Party. Cain’s meteoric rise, in large part due to the support of many Tea Party folk, has the GOP scared to death. We always knew where we stood with the GOP establishment, and now it is all out in the open. Can Cain weather the coming storm? I kind of think he cain!
Watch Herman’s speech at the Value Voters summit. He said (paraphrasing) that life begins at conception, no exceptions.
Do not care for democrats.
Remarkably, Cut and Run Paul is nowhere to be found in the top three.....
Take THAT Paulestinians....
All three combos sound good to me....
That button is screaming funny!
He will win NH no matter what happens...he could murder a woman in cold blood and still win NH.
As long as he loses enough of the rest it will be fine.
Screw National Review and their RINO BS.
Vote for friggin’ Romney if you want to buy that BS.
I’m pretty sure Newt Gingrich is officially listed as a resident of Virginia.
As near as I can tell, the author you linked to is not calling the sales tax a VAT, but is calling the corporate tax a VAT.
He calls is a VAT because Cain’s plan does not allow companies to deduct wages from their gross income prior to that income being taxed.
I’m not sure why that makes a corporate tax a VAT, even though I do think wages are a legitimate business expense and should be deductible from income as a cost of doing business.
In a two-way race, 43% would prefer Cain and 42% Romney. Cain leads Perry 54% to 29% in a two-man match and Romney leads Perry 54% to 30%.
I happened to catch Bill O’Reilly last night, who keeps saying multiple times per night that Romney’s the nominee and Cain doesn’t have a chance in hell. Last night, Bernie Goldberg told O’Reilly that true blue conservatives do not like Romney. O’Reilly’s response? “That’s a small voting block. There aren’t very many of them.” I think he actually believes that, as do a lot of his ilk. LOL!
Most people who acknowledge that life begins at conception also oppose ending that life via abortion. That is not necessarily the case, though. Does Cain oppose abortion for all reasons or are there exceptions, and if so, what are the exceptions?
9-9-9 is a corporate tax, a sales tax, an income tax AND a VAT tax. And this is who the Taxed Enough Already party supports? Laughable.
I think if you stand close enough to Bill OReilly you can actually hear the ocean...
Not only that, but EVERYONE will have some so-called skin in the game! Maybe the bottom 50% of earners wont be so enthusiastic the next time their government wants to raise the taxes, then.
Yep, can't pull out the ole race card.
They are having a full blown hissy fit.
You and this asshat at NRO calling this a VAT doesn’t make it so.
Newt Gingrich: Gingrich has lived full-time in a McLean, Virginia, home outside of D.C. that he and his wife, Callista, bought in May of 2000
Also, what he said was is that Cain's business tax is different than the usual business tax (duh) and has some elements of a VAT tax.
Detail, details. ;>)
I’d be more than happy to help him move.
So you are calling the 9% corporate tax a sales tax on wages? Is that right?
A corporate tax is generally assumed to be on the profits made by a company. Profits are considered to be gross revenues minus gross expenses. One of the expenses has always been wages. I agree with that. I think wages are a business expense.
Instead, Cain is viewing profit as including wages/benefits. I guess he could be thinking that it’s discretionary money...especially in terms of huge executive bonuses...but I don’t see how a company can thrive without workers. Do you?
It would definitely penalize a company for over-hiring.
It would also cause very few companies to unionize with their far higher wages.
Where can we get that button?
Exactly! This is a good thing. They've taken their masks off, we've taken our gloves off, and it's time to rumble.
Not sure why anyone would decline. It goes a long way toward becoming actual POTUS after your guy leaves office.
Fits the outsider/insider ticket that I believe will win.
I think we can agree to disagree. Whoever your candidate is, (if it’s not Romney or Huntsman) I will support enthusiastically against Zero. No circular firing squad, OK?
The government could use Ted Baxter’s head for wind tunnel testing. :-)
One of the things that would make me giggle like a school girl would be to see that smug, self-satisfied smirk wiped off his ugly mug when Cain crushes Romney. I’m petty like that.
We need Perry to stay in the race as he is taking votes away from Romney. Most of his support is likely not going to go to a conservative so we need him in there as long as possible to split the RINO vote.
Me too. :)
Additionally, the 12th Amendment says that the electors of a given state cannot cast their votes to more than one person in their state. So it would apparently only apply to the one state - the other 49 states would be able to vote for the two candidates even if they are from the same state, just so long as it is not their state.
That said, it's probably not a good idea to run two people from the same state because it could make the difference in the election, depending on how many electoral votes that state has.
Having the other candidates gang up on him plus the arrows coming at him from the State controlled media is going to be a good thing for Herman Cain.
Yes, we can see how good it has been for the other erstwhile candidates who have had the laser pointed at them. Apparently kept (what some believe was a sure winner) out of the race entirely (no, not Trump), has killed another frontrunner (Perry), and yet somehow you see this as a good thing for Cain.
Not quite sure I understand your calculus.
“I may not know all there is to know about any of these candidates. But if the MSM is ganging up on Cain, then that’s who I’m voting for. They must be terrified of him. And if so, then that’s who we need.”
Hmmmm. Interesting strategy! Wait for the MSM to start picking on a candidate (Cain) vs. pumping a candidate (Romney), and vote for that candidate.
Will the first Manchurian Candidate please stand up.
And he'll have an entire cabinet of experienced politicians and govt servants who can explain anything he needs to know about how the elephantine govt works.
Good Lord, the ‘sales tax is a VAT’ meme didn’t work, so now the corporate tax is a VAT. In the sense that it is a hidden tax, embedded in each product we buy, and passed on by each company, the corporate income tax has always been a VAT, since corporations don’t pay taxes. At most, this is a difference in what expenses are tax deductible. Most likely, it’s a matter of fleshing out the details. Bruce Bartlett hates the idea of a national sales tax. No surprise he would be critical.
Ok, thats DAMN funnie!
I might just have to put that on my car... lol The same one I put my Honey Badger vanity plates on lol....
The momentum is unstoppable now, and its just gonna keep rollin. People ahve beensearching for another person to vote for other than Romney, and Cain is the man!