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1 posted on 10/14/2011 6:26:44 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Wasn’t that the Spanish-American War and the Philippines went from being a Spain colony to an American semi-colony. I bet they still think the US was far better as a suitor than Spain too.


2 posted on 10/14/2011 6:45:16 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: neverdem
Americans advanced the archipelago’s infrastructure, public education, and health services, vastly improving the quality of life for its occupants.

I worked with a physician several years ago who was from the Philippines. He told me "we like America and Americans. When Spain owned our country, they kept the native people down. When the Americans came in, they built schools and educated people; they built hospitals. America did a lot for my country."

He was very sincere in his statement.

3 posted on 10/14/2011 6:46:47 PM PDT by susannah59
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To: neverdem

off topic but I lived in an apartment in Hoboken in the 90s that John Sayles once lived in. I would get some of his mail, including an invite to a private premiere of a remastered version of El Cid hosted by Martin Scorsese at the Joseph Papp theatre. I took the invite and went with my brother. Sat in the theatre with Charlton Heston, Sohpia Loren, Marissa Tomei, Martin, John Tutorro and others. Drank free wine. It was great. True story.


5 posted on 10/14/2011 7:13:00 PM PDT by No Left Turn
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To: neverdem

This is timely. This Iranian “plot” reminds me of “Remember The Maine!”.

Sounds like a good movie. My fave historical figure is Douglass MacArthur. I believe he is still revered there.


7 posted on 10/14/2011 7:26:45 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Days .... Weeks ..... Months .....)
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To: neverdem

More to the point, in Army History magazine there is a very good article (Issue 79, Spring 2011), about the very hard men who were General Pershing’s subordinates, in the article The Violent End of the Insurgency on Samar 1901-1902.

http://www.history.army.mil/armyhistory/AH79%28W%29r.pdf

(The pdf is for the full magazine so takes a while to load, but is well worth it.)

It should be noted that they took full advantage of General Orders 100, aka The Lieber Code, drafted during the US Civil War.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/lieber.asp

“In the event of the violation of the laws of war by an enemy, the Code permitted reprisals against the enemy’s recently captured POWs; it permitted the summary battlefield punishment of spies, saboteurs, francs-tireurs, and guerrilla forces, if caught in the act of carrying out their missions. (These allowable practices were later abolished by the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions of 1949.)”


8 posted on 10/14/2011 7:30:40 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: neverdem

There’s a great book on our nation building effort in the Philippines titled In Our Own Image. It has quite a bit of info on the Insurrection.


9 posted on 10/14/2011 7:36:08 PM PDT by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: neverdem
It led to this, designed to stop drug crazed muslim fanatics, the Moros, with a single shot
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11 posted on 10/14/2011 7:49:52 PM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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Well, I hope they show the muslims all hopped up and drugged out charging our forces and being shot numerous times by our Navy .38 caliber revolvers...and how that led to the need to develop the M1911 .45!

The .38’s didnt STOP them at all! Or at least, not until you hit the target multiple times


17 posted on 10/14/2011 8:10:54 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: neverdem

We actually fought the muslims then, and DID NOT lose the war before it was over by allowing the Filipinos to write a constitution installing Islam as the State Religion. This was done in Iraq and Afghanistan under the Bush administration’s watch!


18 posted on 10/14/2011 8:12:06 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: neverdem

It is fair to point out that the alternative to American conquest and rule was not independence, it was rule by some other colonial power.

This was the high tide of colonialism, and no attractive territory occupied by brown people would have been allowed to go free.

Most likely it would have been the Germans moving in, as they were the most aggressive at the time, being late out of the gate in the colony race and desperate to catch up.


20 posted on 10/14/2011 8:42:51 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: neverdem

Must have been tough to be a Marine doing tour over there with a bunch of impoverished Michelle Malkins running around. I’m not sayng, I’m just saying.


22 posted on 10/14/2011 9:07:56 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Newt. The antidote to Romney.)
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To: neverdem; Travis McGee; Pelham

Race baiting pc vomit alert posting on this thread...just sayin


30 posted on 10/15/2011 1:00:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (we have entered whatever land here on FR..maybe we will find our bearing again some day)
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