Posted on 10/20/2011 6:40:19 PM PDT by wmfights
I also watch the John Stossel interview and the liberal on the show, who is a complete punk, actually thought Cain was agreeing with him as did Stossel as did I.
I think he's afraid of getting pinned down. This is an out of the ball park question.
Where did he say that? In the interview everyone is twisting, he was very clear that it shouldn't be legal even under that circumstance. I have posted almost a dozen articles on Cain's pro-life position today, from archives to current ones, and none of those he has ever voiced that position
Nice try Perrybots. But find another attack lie to push about Cain cause this one ain't going to hunt.
My candidate would have knocked that question so far out of the ballpark you would never find it. Cain bunted. Grow up.
Because the Perrygasmics want to ignore the fact that the answer they are twisting was to a question not about abortion, but whether his (hypotheitically raped) grandchild should have to raise the child after birth. A child, who in Perry's views, should be able to be aborted by the way.
I WATCHED THE INTERVIEW AND THE ONE WITH STOSSEL YOU SHOULD TOO! Can you hear me now? If you didn’t watch the two videos you need to before commenting. I didn’t even look at the transcript I went straight to the video.
Did you not even read or hear the answer? Or did you simply want to believe a convenient lie?
If you do not like being exposed as liars, quit lying.
I like Perry a lot but tearing everyone else down because he isn’t Perry (or whoever) doesn’t help him, it just pisses people off. Let’s also be real, Perry isn’t helping himself lately. He is almost pulling a Fred Thompson (who I strongly supported) where a lot of people were hoping for him but he didn’t come through. Right now, Perry is even losing to Cain in Texas. Let’s not tear down all the other Conservative candidates because the one we like isn’t doing well.
.. the media is egging all of this on.. they did it to Bachmann when she was leading. Then when Perry took the lead, they did it to him.. now that Cain took the lead, they are doing it to him...
..and we are enabling them.
Remember who the enemy is here.
Yep.
Here’s part of Cain’s statement from today. Note: it has an entirely different tact than you have:
In a statement released late Thursday afternoon - Cain’s campaign had not previously responded to requests from CBS News throughout the day for clarification of the candidate’s position - Cain said that he understood the question he’d been asked as questioning whether he “would simply ‘order’ people to not seek an abortion” if he becomes president.
“My answer was focused on the role of the President,” Cain said. “The President has no constitutional authority to order any such action by anyone. That was the point I was trying to convey.”
He added: “As to my political policy view on abortion, I am 100% pro-life. End of story.”
Obviously, your candidate is not Perry.
Cain said he did not believe in rape in any case - case, invest, whatever. That was his “personal” view which is almost irrelevant. The issue is government’s role. But when pressed about it he said the woman should have the right to choose whether to have an aboriton. So he believes in a woman’s right of choice in abortions involving rape.
I am not attacking Cain on this issue. I just believe in consistency. I find this piling on Perry (when he has already been politically irradicated) while giving Cain a pass is wrong.
Your man child, slick huckster fouled out, my guy stood for principles that you apparently cannot comprehend.
Thanks for the Perry-bot pretzel logic.
CAIN: I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances. And here’s why —
MORGAN: No circumstances?
CAIN: No circumstances.
MORGAN: Because many of your fellow candidates — some of them qualify that.
CAIN: They qualify but —
MORGAN: Rape and incest.
CAIN: Rape and incest. Cain is specifically rejecting exceptions to anti-abortion laws that other candidates have put forth allowing abortion in cases of rape and incest.
MORGAN: Are you honestly saying — again, it’s a tricky question, I know.
CAIN: Ask the tricky question.
MORGAN: But you’ve had children, grandchildren. If one of your female children, grand children was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own?
CAIN: You’re mixing two things here, Piers?
MORGAN: Why?
CAIN: You’re mixing —
MORGAN: That’s what it comes down to.
CAIN: No, it comes down to it’s not the government’s role or anybody else’s role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make.
Cain clearly states he is anti abortion.
Cain then answers Morgan's stupid question about a mother "BRINGING UP" a baby.
Guess it’s me but someone’s stand on abortion, their religious views etc are personal issues and I really don’t give a rats ass about what one candidate or the other thinks about it.
You can say that, “defines” the person and I still don’t care because it’s a personal opinion. My main concern for any presidential candidate is reducing the size of and getting government out my life. I want someone who believes in and will defend the Constitution 100%, is a fiscal conservative, supports a strong military, protects our borders and will eliminate the IRS, NEA, EPA and any federal administration that is useless.. which is most of them.
If I find a candidate that does that, then the rest will probably fall in line inclduing any Supreme Court potential nominees. If they do the above but are pro-choice, then I’ll settle for that flaw because I’m looking for the greater good no a single stance on a single issue. There is no perfect candidate and in reality abortion, relgious issues etc should be settled at the state level NOT the federal level, it’s not their purview. The federal government has limitations..
Why focus on who is the most pure? It makes more sense to focus on who is the most effective at curtailing abortions. If some purist candidate wins and can't get Thing One accomplished, then what good is he?
” I believe in my gut Cain is pro-life. This was not a tricky question. Cain made it a tricky question. “ <<<
That is exactly how I feel. I believe he is far better on the issue than Perry, actually, but why does he dazzle me with perfect philosophy, then turns around and confuses me utterly on his sincerity to do a dang thing about it to “advance” his perfect philosophy. He better convince me first and fast. Rick Perry has, IMHO, a very dense and political useful philosophy but NO ONE doubts he would blaze both guns against abortion. THAT is where a RECORD of doing exactly that counts so much. Perry lets the chips fall where they may, but his word is his bond.
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