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Cain responds to sex harassment allegation
Washington Examiner ^ | October 30, 2011 | Byron York

Posted on 10/30/2011 7:06:28 PM PDT by markomalley

Herman Cain's campaign headquarters has released a response to a story, broken this evening on Politico, that in the 1990s two female employees of the National Restaurant Association "complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain," who at the time was head of the trade group.

Calling the story "thinly source allegations," Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon said: "Since Washington establishment critics haven't had much luck in attacking Mr. Cain's ideas to fix a bad economy and create jobs, they are trying to attack him in any way they can."  Gordon did not address any of the specific allegations in the report.  Asked for a more specific answer, the campaign did not provide details.

Here is Gordon's complete response:

Inside the Beltway media attacks Cain

Fearing the message of Herman Cain who is shaking up the political landscape in Washington, Inside the Beltway media have begun to launch unsubstantiated personal attacks on Cain.

Dredging up thinly sourced allegations stemming from Mr. Cain’s tenure as the Chief Executive Officer at the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, political trade press are now casting aspersions on his character and spreading rumors that never stood up to the facts.

Since Washington establishment critics haven't had much luck in attacking Mr. Cain's ideas to fix a bad economy and create jobs, they are trying to attack him in any way they can.

Sadly, we’ve seen this movie played out before – a prominent Conservative targeted by liberals simply because they disagree with his politics.

Mr. Cain -- and all Americans, deserve better.

Cain is likely to face questions about the matter on Monday.  He is scheduled to appear at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington in the morning to discuss his 9-9-9 tax plan, and then speak -- and take questions -- at the National Press Club at lunch.


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To: af_vet_rr

Yeah, but the argument could be made that if Obama wants to face Romney, they’re better off having Cain split the conservative vote with deep-pockets Perry. It’s way too early for them to be hacking at Cain. Likewise, if you’re the Romney campaign, you don’t want to give Perry more momentum earlier than you need to. It’s actually the Perry team who would benefit from this early drop. He’s known for going negative and playing hardball, but obviously we’ve no shred of evidence that it comes from his camp.


151 posted on 10/31/2011 12:28:17 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: af_vet_rr

Oh, sorry, I see now, there is some emerging evidence of the Perry camp having it, I get it. (I was just speculating without that.)


152 posted on 10/31/2011 12:30:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: little jeremiah

It’s actually not nothing, it’s classic sexual harassment if it is true.


153 posted on 10/31/2011 12:34:55 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
It's a moot point since Perry's camp knew about it in advance, but I think Romney would be terrified of Cain racking of millions of dollars in a short amount of time because one of Cain's biggest problems was a lack of money. Cain can't pick up Romney's supporters - those people have sold their souls to the devil to support him, but with enough money, Cain can unify a lot of Conservatives. That scares the hell out of Romney, the idea of Cain pulling ahead of Romney in more areas well before December rolls around.

Moot point, and in hindsight, you're right, Perry is known for going negative and Perry has to do something to get out of the single digits. He can't wait until Iowa rolls around.
154 posted on 10/31/2011 12:37:08 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: justsaynomore

His supporters bring up his race constantly. Constantly. Even Ann Colter today with the “strong black conservative” comment. The language used tonite on several threads calling non supporters racists is beyond belief. I never thought about it too much until it’s been shoved down my throat every day.
It over-rides anything he says. I’m sick to death of posters referring to any criticism of him as lynching. It’s too harsh and I can’t move past it. For many of us, this is our first exposure to him. I could list a lot of dubious quotes but I’d be attacked by someone. You don’t dare ask a question about Herman Cain without someone trying to land a punch rather than answer a question.


155 posted on 10/31/2011 12:37:25 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: FryingPan101

“They’re going to come after me more viciously than they would a white candidate,” Cain responded. “You’re right. Clarence Thomas. And so, to use Clarence Thomas as an example, I’m ready for the same high-tech lynching that he went through — for the good of this country.” Cain smiled broadly. “I’m ready for the same high-tech lynching.”


156 posted on 10/31/2011 12:38:47 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: af_vet_rr

Well...I hope you’re right and someone does ask Perry. He deserves the right to respond. What if, however, there is a problem with Cain’s past? Just asking.


157 posted on 10/31/2011 12:41:01 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: FryingPan101

I’d rather have Cain be our nominee than your guy, but you’re right, Cain’s defenders are always bringing up the race angle.


158 posted on 10/31/2011 12:47:09 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

“They’re going to come after me more viciously than they would a white candidate,” Cain responded. “You’re right. Clarence Thomas. And so, to use Clarence Thomas as an example, I’m ready for the same high-tech lynching that he went through — for the good of this country.” Cain smiled broadly. “I’m ready for the same high-tech lynching.”

That’s EXACTLY what I’m talking about. Who says stuff like that?


159 posted on 10/31/2011 12:47:20 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: FryingPan101

LOL - Ann Coulter is not a Cain supporter. She is a Romney supporter. She likes Cain.

Out of curiosity, where were people being called racist or accusing other FReepers of lynching again? I’d be happy to report it to the mods. In fact, please ping me every time it is “shoved down your throat” by a FReeper and I will be sure and report it to the mods.


160 posted on 10/31/2011 12:56:44 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: SteveAustin

I was reading comments on another site, and someone posted a Twitter message from one of Perry’s AZ staff, from three days ago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2800204/posts?page=15#15

And here’s the Tweet:

http://twitter.com/#!/slmbolick/status/129770632018788352


161 posted on 10/31/2011 1:01:56 AM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administration's amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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To: mountainfolk

Oh, sure, none of the other candidates will benefit if they smear the front-runner so he gets knocked out.

That’s ridiculous.


162 posted on 10/31/2011 1:09:44 AM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administration's amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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To: FryingPan101

Cain people would NOT go to Romney. That’s just stupid.


163 posted on 10/31/2011 1:12:48 AM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administration's amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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To: Politicalmom
From Perry's AZ State Coordinator

Source - http://theothermccain.com/2011/10/30/merely-part-of-a-smear-campaign-meant-to-discredit-a-true-patriot/

164 posted on 10/31/2011 1:35:55 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Dengar01; Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; FryingPan101; onyx; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; marty60; ...

I hope no one listens to your demand for a zot. (And that the Lord answers your prayer that Texas be annexed by Mexico with a gentle, “NO!”)

This is a gotcha reporter-generated story designed to make us all look bad. How long before we hear how saintly and chaste Obama is, but “just look at your Baptist preacher! And your own people are claiming Perry has “skeletons of his own.”

This makes your rant against Texas in an effort to attack our Governor more than just disinformation. But, just to set the record straight:

Texans, including our Governor, don’t support amnesty. We require that anyone who is eligible to pay in state tuition actually *pay* in state tuition when they go to college. We don’t give guns to gangs. (That’s Holder and Obama, remember?) We certainly don’t “support” rape or murder on either side of the border.

And don’t you dare mess with our *Texian* and Tennessee hero, Representative and Colonel David Crockett! We do still welcome men and women of character, just as we welcomed David Crockett. His motto: “Be always sure you’re right - then go a-head!”

BTW, Crockett’s commander was William B. Travis, who was born in South Carolina. Both refused to surrender and died heroes at the Alamo over a month before we won our independence and captured the President of Mexico (Santa Anna called himself the Napoleon of the West) at the Battle of San Jacinto. Those victorious *Texians* were commanded by General Sam Houston, who was born in Virginia.

http://www.tamu.edu/faculty/ccbn/dewitt/batsanjacinto.htm
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/fcr24


165 posted on 10/31/2011 1:45:07 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: hocndoc

IBTZ.


166 posted on 10/31/2011 1:49:15 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If it happens, it happens. I won’t be a coward. FReepers helped to teach me to be tough it out, years ago.


167 posted on 10/31/2011 1:53:01 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: FryingPan101

Clarence Thomas MEANT that his “high tech lynching” was character assassination and they were out to destroy him.

He has said in interview that the committee hearings were about one issue... abortion.

He didn’t say in that same interview that they came after him because he was a black man. In fact, he brushed that premise aside when it was offered.

And now, Cain uses “high tech lynching” to emphasize that they are going to come after him and destroy his character. He KNEW this was coming.

And he was right.


168 posted on 10/31/2011 1:58:07 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: markomalley

The campaign didn’t really deny the accusations.


169 posted on 10/31/2011 2:04:46 AM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: little jeremiah; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000
“The sources — which include the recollections of close associates and other documentation — describe episodes that left the women upset and offended. These incidents include conversations allegedly filled with innuendo or personal questions of a sexually suggestive nature, taking place at hotels during conferences, at other officially sanctioned restaurant association events and at the association’s offices. There were also descriptions of physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable and that they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.”

So in the auras and penumbras appear the outlines of a psychosexual slip-and-fall scam.

Picked up by the Palin-labelled politico punk.

A nothingburger.

Was the husband killing himself in the woods as the wife was groped in the Oval Office, her cat killed, her tires slashed.

Perhaps she was delivering a pizza on her knees in the Oval Office receiving the semen-in-chief on a blue dress from The Gap.

Clarence Thomas stood up for life and was the intended victim of a high-tech lynching.

Now comes the same for another life defender as he foresaw.

While the suspicious murders of the gay black men of Obama's church and his penchant for the Full Larry Sinclair Experience are never spoken of.

Billy Graham would not answer the door nor be in the company of women without witnesses for that famous evangelist knew how the world works.

The Devil Comes Down to Georgia and when his fiddling is second-best he smears.


170 posted on 10/31/2011 2:08:00 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: ozarkgirl

The libs had years to slur Palin...With Cain they only have a few months...cannot do as much damage in so short a time, altho they can try to inflict damage..Cain better handle it well. If he does it could be a grand slam for him


171 posted on 10/31/2011 2:33:49 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny

Remember when the scandal came out right before the 2008 election about the possible gay love affair of Obama and the subsequent murder of another gay man at Obama’s church....all swept under the rug by the media? Anyone who still thinks this is a “free” country after all that is out of their ever loving mind.
The fascist powers that be..do not want Cain to see the light of day in this election. Just like they didn’t want Palin to survive and launched an unprecedented attach, they will savage Cain in all the media with unusual brutality in any way possible. I won’t be surprised at how vicious they will become. Cain is a threat to the stealth dictatorship.

There will be no covering for Cain like there was for Obama..mark my words.


172 posted on 10/31/2011 2:35:09 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Earthdweller

...(media)didn’t want Palin to survive and launched an unprecedented attack..


173 posted on 10/31/2011 2:38:12 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: 9YearLurker

But do we know there were payments made? Apparently, there has been no confirmation. All these unidentified sources make this whole matter suspect.

You may be right about this not coming from the Obama camp. Sadly, it sounds like something from all those Republicans in the tank for Romney. It’s pathetic that Cain can be stabbed in the back by his own party.


174 posted on 10/31/2011 4:20:55 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

No, Cain would have denied the payments if they were deniable, and his own camp said that the issue had been “settled” amicably. It’s pretty clear the payments were made.


175 posted on 10/31/2011 4:25:58 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Companies make payments like this all the time. That’s not the issue. The issue is the behavior of Cain at the time and we know nothing about that. Wait for the other shoe to drop.


176 posted on 10/31/2011 4:34:20 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Solson
Here's where I have a problem. When you first think about running, your advisors ask you.."Is there ANYTHING I need to know that could hurt you?"

Cain reportedly told a few that there might be some allegations made against him." Immediately, they should have gathered ALL the info, understood exactly what was, or was not there, and figuring that in politics, EVERYTHING comes out, have long prepared a response.

It may be that they're just flustered, becuase they've been riding a wave for the last few weeks, and caught unawares..

177 posted on 10/31/2011 4:45:16 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: parksstp
Romney or Perry behind this? Take your pick.

It's Romney's style, IMO.

It could also be part of an early Democrat fishing expedition, as I don't think Obama's eager to run against Cain.

And it could be just some guest-in-the-net stuff, swept up in the trawling for Perry dirt. Remember that "Ever had sex with Rick Perry" effort?

Looks like a few people were able to respond feebly, "No, but Herman Cain called me hon once, and I took him to the cleaners."

178 posted on 10/31/2011 5:17:45 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (I believe in opinions on opinion forums, but you are free to disagree about that.)
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To: Lady Lucky

Remember that “Ever had sex with Rick Perry” effort?
**************************************

Yep, Robert Morrow a Ron Paul supporter took out an add to try and get Perry sex dirt and Larry Flynt offered a million dollars for any sex dirt on Perry.


179 posted on 10/31/2011 5:27:42 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: Solson

Yes, but such payments can be expected to haunt the executive in question if said executive runs for public office. Also, that this is two of them, not just one, makes it tougher.

You’re right, we don’t know from the settlement how innocent or guilty his actions may have been. But it’s gotta hurt him.

And the more it looks like the leak comes from the Perry camp the less likely it will help him.


180 posted on 10/31/2011 5:48:11 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Politicalmom
Until the primaries are finished the current front runner is in flux and Herman Cain was only front runner in polls which change by the day. Trying to turn this Cain attack into some kind of advantage for other candidates is what is ridiculous. None of the candidates is immune to opposition attacks from vested interests, political and apolitical, founded and unfounded attempts at scandal. Reality has always been lurking for all of the candidates and is probably the biggest reason we have the slate of candidates now running. Cain should have dealt with this at the very beginning of his run because it was an inevitable given that it would be used eventually. The other candidates had best wise up and get ahead of whatever they may be vulnerable to.
181 posted on 10/31/2011 6:26:40 AM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America)
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To: ken5050

I’m going to assume that they are bound by the non-disclosure agreements that these “women” apparently broke.


182 posted on 10/31/2011 7:30:22 AM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administration's amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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To: Kennard

In the corporate world, preventing accusations of sexual harassment
is an enormous focus of upper management
and HR and the legal department.
Sexual harassment is taken very seriously
and is not tolerated in the workplace.
Period.
Employees from top to bottom are drilled on proper workplace behavior.
Many make employees must attend a yearly seminar where the
code of conduct is reviewed.
Every large company has an employee manual on appropriate workplace behavior.
Most corporations, probably smaller businesses ,too,
have compliance procedures already in place for dealing
with accusations against employees ,
ranging from counseling
for the first offense
and more punitive measures, including firing , thereafter.
Many of us have been through the yearly drill.
Cain should have known better than to put himself
in any type of situation
that could be construed as harassment.
The fact that the company paid off the women and silenced them ,
makes it seem like much more
than “ Mr Cain said I looked pretty.”
And if it was something innocuous , Cain should have said so.
If he had been a lower level employee, in today’s ( and the 90s )
corporate environment
Cain would
probably have been fired after
the second accusation surfaced.
Most companies have a strict zero tolerance policy about
this because of the possibility of lawsuits.


183 posted on 10/31/2011 7:37:55 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: markomalley
Anonymous -- as in unnamed, unofficial and unverifable -- complaints from the 1990s about "inappropriate behavior" -- which, btw, could mean he just called some overly wound gal "honey" -- and the left thinks it's a story.

Stories that you write when you don't know that "bearing false witness" is one of the 10 big sins.

184 posted on 10/31/2011 7:43:41 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Investigative journalists have found Obama's secret bride before Michelle.

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185 posted on 10/31/2011 7:51:53 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("If You Don't Like What I Say Or Do, Tough, Deal With It")
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To: dandiegirl

Oh, I want to scream!

We need to put “inappropriate speech” at work with subordinates clearly up against Larry Sinclair humming in the back of a limo, the Prez smoking CRACK, and the Prez having such a good time that he shows up unannounced at Sinclair’s hotel room the following night. Ok, he wasn’t prez then, he was serving as state something, senator? Oh, and he was married with a baby! Oh, and when this started to get out when he ran for president, his middleman who was trying to keep Sinclait quiet, another partner of barack’s, the openly gay choir director at wright’s “church,” was murdered hit man style....

Put all that up against inappropriate speech!!


186 posted on 10/31/2011 7:52:16 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: no dems

Argh! Cain needs to get out in front of this! He did not drop trou and say “kiss it!”. He did not smoke crack while these women serviced him! Stay honest, Cain, and we will keep donating and supporting!


187 posted on 10/31/2011 7:57:12 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: no dems

If it does kill Herman, he needs to pull Obama inti the flames! We have no perfect candidate! Look at the allegations against Obama! Please, for the sake of the American people, mr. Cain, if you go down in flames over suggestive speech to employees, pull Obama into the fire on This Earth : ask publicly what happened to Donald Young!!!!


188 posted on 10/31/2011 8:03:25 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SkyDancer

Bwhahahahaha!!!!!!!


189 posted on 10/31/2011 8:10:26 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: LADY J

Yesssss. Bloch should make a video getting out in front of the truth here, and definitely ask Sinclair for permission to include a clip of his video in it. Not about the plumbing he performed on barack’s pipes but maybe about how Barack went to buy some cocaine for them before they got started on their fun gay night.


190 posted on 10/31/2011 8:14:12 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Politicalmom

Once agreements are broken, then all bets are off..


191 posted on 10/31/2011 8:16:42 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: 9YearLurker

It’s actually not nothing, it’s classic sexual harassment if it is true.


I am willing to give Cain a pass on it. I had very few bosses who did not go there. Most let it slide after they saw I wasn’t playing. The only one I reported was the one whom I gave three chances to. “if this happens again, I will report you” was said to him 2x. After the 3rd proposition, I reported him. We need this guy in the white house. He’s a bold conservative. Newt did worse. Obama did worse.


192 posted on 10/31/2011 8:20:07 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: ken5050

Cain has to be certain that the women are actually the people who broke the agreements.


193 posted on 10/31/2011 8:51:26 AM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administration's amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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To: Yaelle

Correct. I remember attending,in the early 90’s, during a company convention..a required workshop on sexual harassment..it was just starting to be an issue in the corporate workplace...some outside consultant gave it..the usual examples about improper and suggestive comments, touching...and at the end..during the Q&A, some senior VP..who obviously been bending a few elbows, raised his hand and said..”but you didn’t tell me HOW to get sexually harassed.”..most everyone laughed..six months later..he “retired.”..


194 posted on 10/31/2011 8:57:39 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: Politicalmom
Talk about payback being a bitch...

I assume, from Cain's comments, that these were both unfounded allegations, and were settled becausee it was the easy path to take for the company and the insurance carrier...people forget that the insurance company can force the settlement, or the coverage is cancelled. Well, now, these two ladies ( the names will come out) are going to have their lives treated like gynecological exams on LIVE TV..everything they ever did will come out..

Payback ( delayed) can be a real bitch..

195 posted on 10/31/2011 9:02:35 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: ozarkgirl

I agree... when he comes on I turn the channel...


196 posted on 10/31/2011 9:12:45 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Yaelle

I’d like to see Cain there ahead of Perry, Romney and, of course, Obama, but he really hasn’t been through sufficient vetting yet.

(And yes, there is a double standard, the GOP has to be able to withstand a media onslaught that Obama will never face.)

I agree that the reported level of harassment, whether true or not, is pretty common. To me what looks way more problematic is if he as the head of the trade group made the payments but members of the board at the time were, as they are claiming, unaware of it. That is not garden variety and would, I would think, be a major issue.


197 posted on 10/31/2011 9:22:08 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

True. I hope he can come out in front of this, and I cannot just agree that the double standard exists. We need to fight that double standard! If Cain goes down he needs to take Obama down with him, or t least the media!


198 posted on 10/31/2011 9:39:21 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

I’d love to see the GOP use this to vbrinmg up Larry Sinclair and all the sordid Obama issues nonstop.

I’d be absolutely shocked to see it though.


199 posted on 10/31/2011 9:59:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Earthdweller

I find it interesting that 2 black conservatives have had stories that the media went on about for weeks...Clarence Thomas and now Cain....the white democrats get such things buried real quick....they don’t like it when one of their people leave the plantation...Just like the old days, the word goes out to catch that runaway slave..Even black democrats get everything buried...they are the most corrupt party in existence..


200 posted on 10/31/2011 12:15:52 PM PDT by goat granny
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