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Posted on 10/30/2011 8:09:16 PM PDT by parksstp
During Herman Cain’s tenure as the head of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, at least two female employees complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain, ultimately leaving their jobs at the trade group, multiple sources confirm to POLITICO.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html#ixzz1cKBke5vZ
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
I will wait for the facts.
I do know that a “settlement” and a “coverup” are two VERY different things. Someone can be innocent and agree to settle in court because it is expensive, time consuming, and creates negative publicity to fight it out in court.
A decision like this would not have been Cain’s to make, it would have been the board’s decision to make.
Did you read this article? These women (whoever they are, or even IF they are) didn’t even suggest it was sexual in nature.
I received a forwarded tweet tonight that a woman who worked with Cain while he was at the NRA does not believe these allegations at all.
Also, it may very well be the Obama campaign, for the very reason they want to run against a Romney... they know that the conservative base will be deflated and de-egenrized, just like they were with RINO McLaim when he got the nomination. The only way Obama can win is to knock the wind out of the sails of the conservative ship... to knock Cain out of the race is to ensure a RINO wins the nomination.
There is no sex anywhere close to this story. This story is old and boring!
You must be stupid to think Cain is “that naive”...
So? compare this to the dozens of Obama Scandals, Cain looks like a Saint. Im gonna watch a little of Matthews/Sargaent Schultz tonight to see if they bring it up,,,and/or how much time they spend on it,,,knowing chrissy,,he would devote the first half hour !!! but what about Eric Holder? I have never seen Chris bring up his scandal.
I think you might be giving the libs too much credit here. They really, really, believe that the Tea Party and Conservatives in general are racist, and that Cain v Obama would be as easy as Keyes v Obama was in the Senate Race.
He must be stupid if he didn’t think sexual harassment settlements wouldn’t come up in a campaign.
Gee, no one saw this coming?
From Oct 16:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2793305/posts?q=1&;page=51
See post #73.
You have to read pretty far down into the Politico story before you find that response from Herman Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon, and the article sticks all the exculpatory material at the end:
Ron Magruder, Denise Marie Fugo and Joseph Fassler, the chair, vice chair and immediate past chairman of the National Restaurant Association board of directors at the time of Cain’s departure, said they hadn’t heard about any complaints regarding Cain making unwanted advances.
“I have never heard that. It would be news to me,” said Fugo, who runs a Cleveland, Ohio, catering company, adding such behavior would be totally out of character for the Cain she knew. “He’s very gracious.”
Fassler, who helped bring Cain on board as CEO of the restaurant association, said that any inappropriate behavior was not brought to his attention and that he would be upset to learn it had gone on and he was not made aware of it.
“That’s a shock to me,” Fassler said. “As an officer during all of Herman’s years there as a paid executive… none of that stuff ever surfaced to me. Nobody ever called me, complained about this, nor did I ever hear that from Peter Kilgore, nor did I ever hear that from Herman Cain.”
Fassler — who ran a Phoenix food-service company and finished his term as chairman the month before Cain’s June 1999 departure but remained on the board’s executive committee — described Cain as treating men and women identically and asserted it was “not within his character” to make unwanted advances. “It’s not what I know of him,” Fassler said.
Much like Fassler, almost all board members remember Cain fondly and say he left on good terms.
Cain was “extremely professional” and “fair” to female staffers at the restaurant association, recalled Lee Ellen Hayes, who said she “worked fairly closely with” Cain in the late 1990s, when she was an executive at the National Restaurant Association Education Fund, a Chicago-based offshoot of the group.
Cain’s treatment of women was “the same as his treatment of men. Herman treated everyone great,” said Mary Ann Cricchio, who was elected to the board of the restaurant group in 1998. She said Cain left such a good impression on the organization that when he spoke at a group event in January of this year, as he was considering a presidential bid, “he had unanimous support in the room.”
We know nothing about the accusers and the specifics of the accusations from a dozen years ago are reported rather vaguely by Politico: “episodes that left the women upset and offended” and “physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable and that they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.”
All in all, it’s a long run for a short slide. Unless and until we have some specifics — including names, dates and places — my instinct is to agree with Gordon that this is “part of a smear campaign.”
Why are Cain’s enemies firing the thermonuclear component of their oppo-research arsenal so early? Generally speaking in such matters, you save your big stuff for later in the campaign.
We have all these cowardly GOP’ers in congress. Will they get outraged about this latest attack on one of their own? No? They have access to media. They have power. So then it’s time for a 3rd party. I’m fuc**ng tired of this. We’re losing the war folks.
I’ve learned not to expect much from Perry supporters.
where is the cover up?
Keyes was a different time, was local, and wasn’t quite as congenial... I have no apprehensions on this...
Not so sure it wasn't the Obama folks. If nothing else, the Cain story will divert attention from the bad news about Social Security officially going red. They have a knack for stepping on bad news.
What coverup? the payments? That is standard procedure in sexual harassment cases. Heck, it is standard in phony "personal injury" lawsuits as well. A woman sued my father for a non-existent injury from an accident which never happened, for which she had no witnesses except her boyfriend. She had NO case, yet Liberty Mutual handed her $35,000 to go away. I have seen this done at 3 companies I have worked with. They all said it was B.S. And they all paid to make it go away.
This story can only help Cain.
Only two?
Bill Clinton had dozens.
And one of them was Hillary!
Corporations with deep pocket pay settlements regardless of authenticity of charges because it is much cheaper than litigating in court. It does not prove anything, especially if the settlement is in low 5 figures.
I can’t wait until Tort Reform passes when the plaintiff has to pay the defendant’s legal expenses in cases when he/she loses the case.
Raymann’s comment:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2800157/posts?page=83
This is what Politico says:
“The sources — which include the recollections of close associates and other documentation — describe episodes that left the women upset and offended. These incidents include conversations allegedly filled with innuendo or personal questions of a sexually suggestive nature, taking place at hotels during conferences, at other officially sanctioned restaurant association events and at the association’s offices. There were also descriptions of physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable and that they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.”
Really? How the hell do you defend yourself against stuff like that. They’re basically saying “oh we can’t show or prove anything but it was harassment”
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