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Penn State Cancels Paterno News Conference Amid Scandal
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com ^ | 11-8-11 | Teresa Masterson

Posted on 11/08/2011 9:35:01 AM PST by tcrlaf

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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Being a state institution, they are all state employees. Subject to the states hiring standards and quota correct?


41 posted on 11/08/2011 10:00:59 AM PST by edcoil (The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital. -- Joe Paterno)
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To: harpu
IMHO the grad assistant (McQuarry, and his Dad, who was with him when McQuarry told Paterno) should have reported it to the police immediately after reporting it to Paterno as it was done.

Thats easy to say right now but I could envision a state of mind for 28 year old McQeary where he would have a hard time believing what he saw. When McQeary played at PSU, Sandusky was a virtual deity. In light of that I could understand McQeary taking the issue to the 2 most important people in his life....his father and Joe Paterno.

42 posted on 11/08/2011 10:01:25 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: WOBBLY BOB
"Hard to argue against that.doesn't he also fit in the desciption of what the law considers a "mandated reporter" with a duty to do so?"

From the State Attorney General's press conference yesterday and the words from the State police commissioner, it sounds to me like Joepa fulfilled his legal obligations (told someone higher up), but did not fulfill his moral obligations. So I don't think he's in any trouble legally.
43 posted on 11/08/2011 10:02:12 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: tcrlaf; All
I'm not defending Paterno in this matter. He obviously was very wrong, both in not following up on the incident, an in also ignoring, or denying years of behavior and rumors about Sandusky.

But he has also done some pretty decent things in his life.

In an era when coaches demand exorbitant contracts and get paid millons when they get fired, Paterno has for years signed contracts that are way under the value for a program such as Penn State.

He still lives in the same modest house on campus that he has for decades.

Paterno and his wife have donated millions to the University to endow academic ( NOT sports) related programs and scholarships.

He has definitely stayed too long as coach...he did not know when it was time to go....but these calls for summarily firing him are wrong. He should be allowed to finish out the season, then retire.

Many of the same peopel, and media sources, now calling for him to be summarily canned, were the same ones DEFENDING Michael Jackson against pedophilia charges...anyone see the hypocrisy here?

And look for the Nittany Lions to run the table...win out this season, and the Big 10 championship, AND win their BCS bowl...probably finish up at #6-8 final national ranking..

44 posted on 11/08/2011 10:03:07 AM PST by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: tcrlaf

A couple of questions;

1. As I understand the situation, two officials of Penn State have been arrested for lying to a grand jury. Why would they lie when they must have known where this would lead?

2. Does a possible financial impact have anything to do with all the lying, failure to report crime, cover-up, etc?


45 posted on 11/08/2011 10:04:03 AM PST by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: tcrlaf

Football= money/income for the college=sweep the rapes under the rug/keep your mouth shut=we are shocked=CYA mode!


46 posted on 11/08/2011 10:04:48 AM PST by 4yearlurker (I've been dipping into my jar full of Hope & Change just to buy gas!!)
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To: tcrlaf

“Penn State said to be planning football coach Joe Paterno’s departure, sources say”

It’s so weird, how they phrase these things. Either they’re firing him or he’s resigning. If you’re forcing him into retirement, then he’s not resigning. So when the time comes for him to leave, you let him say he’s doing it for health, family, or whatever. But you don’t say you’re planning his departure, because that implies he’s being fired; you might as well come out and say it at that point.

But what does it matter? PR is all a bunch of bosh.


47 posted on 11/08/2011 10:05:49 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: tcrlaf
Just watch, they are going to try and hang this whole thing on PATERNO, and force him out, rather than the Administration taking the heat.

Anyone who knew about these incidents and didn't notify law enforcement should be gone, IMHO - and that includes Paterno. It's absolutely incredible and absolutely monstrous that this pedophile Sandusky felt perfectly safe raping children on campus - he acted like he knew Penn State coaches, employees and officials wouldn't turn him in, and they didn't.
48 posted on 11/08/2011 10:06:33 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: alarm rider

“2. Does a possible financial impact have anything to do with all the lying, failure to report crime, cover-up, etc?”

DUH.....


49 posted on 11/08/2011 10:06:45 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: edcoil
Being a state institution, they are all state employees. Subject to the states hiring standards and quota correct?

You mean to tell me Penn State University is a branch of the Government of Pennsylvania?

You mean that this pedophile coach was on the state payroll?

Let me tell you something: if a state-run orphanage, or a state-run child-care center, had a scandal like this, it would, in very short order, no longer be state-run. It would no longer be anything, in fact.

It happened in Philadelphia, with one of their child-care agencies.

It could happen to Penn State too. Can you imagine?

50 posted on 11/08/2011 10:07:02 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: alarm rider

As for your first question, I wish we could put that to Ray Gricar...


51 posted on 11/08/2011 10:07:09 AM PST by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: ken5050
And look for the Nittany Lions to run the table...win out this season, and the Big 10 championship, AND win their BCS bowl...probably finish up at #6-8 final national ranking..

Thanks for reminding us what is really important.

52 posted on 11/08/2011 10:07:18 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: edcoil
"Being a state institution, they are all state employees. Subject to the states hiring standards and quota correct?"

I don't know about that. I do know that he was a close friend of Joepa's for 30 years and Joepa has the ability to hire and fire coaches. I think it's now obvious why Sandusky retired after 99. He was forced to.
53 posted on 11/08/2011 10:08:08 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“I don’t see how he’ll be able to get out of that”

Easily, “Sorry, I’m sick [cough, cough].”


54 posted on 11/08/2011 10:08:38 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: harpu

“IMHO the grad assistant (McQuarry, and his Dad, who was with him when McQuarry told Paterno) should have reported it to the police immediately after reporting it to Paterno as it was done.”

I agree and Paterno should have been right there with them. This whole thing is confusing and frustrating to me. The GA should have made some attempt to help the child as soon as he saw what was going on. You’ve got to do the right thing.


55 posted on 11/08/2011 10:08:46 AM PST by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: tcrlaf

This whole thing is sickening - if I walked into a locker room and witnessed an old creep buggering a ten year old boy, my first instinct would be to crack his skull with something and then call the COPS. Joe Paterno is up to his sorry butt in this scandal, and he can rot in hell with the rest of these perverts.


56 posted on 11/08/2011 10:09:07 AM PST by dainbramaged (I lost my mantra around 1969.)
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To: edcoil
Being a state institution, they are all state employees. Subject to the states hiring standards and quota correct?

When I went back to college after service, I found out that the athletic department doesn't have to follow the usual rules.

57 posted on 11/08/2011 10:09:18 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: tcrlaf

A case can be made that Paterno should’ve done more when given the evidence, but he did take it to Penn State authorities. THEY were the ones that sat on it. Nobody’s accusing Paterno of perjury, unlike the Penn State president, who was called out by the grand jury for lying under oath.

The Penn State administration is going to shove Paterno out the door over this, I’ll bet you’re right. But it won’t save them. They’ll be lucky if the faithful in Happy Valley don’t string them up.

}:-)4


58 posted on 11/08/2011 10:09:20 AM PST by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: NewinTexsas

“The university put out a statement yesterday that they wanted everyone to remember that this week/game was dedicated to the seniors and they didn’t want the scandal to overshadow that celebration”

Yeah, and that’s under their control. Surely.


59 posted on 11/08/2011 10:10:16 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: NotSoModerate
Paterno has a chance to be a stand up guy here. He should come clean, retire, and make a commitment to the victims in this to spend the rest of his days on this earth as their advocate.

AMEN. That would be best for everyone, including Joe and his family.

60 posted on 11/08/2011 10:10:24 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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