Timely Revelation: LDS Church Steps Back From Mit

The recent news that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints had distanced itself from Mit Romney took everyone by surprise. “Mit is giving Mormons a bad name,” said spokeselder H. LeGrand Smoot, who declined to elaborate on the church’s order that Brother Romney cease and desist from identifying himself as a Mormon.

After several days of stonewalling the mainstream media, the church finally agreed to sit down with City Weekly, on the condition that the interview be conducted by the Deep End. Brother H. LeGrand Smoot, a large, friendly fellow with silver hair and an impressive double chin, greeted us warmly in his spacious office high above Temple Square.

Deep End: Why the sudden move? The general consensus seemed to be that Mit was good for the church.

Smoot: Initially, and for quite a while, the Brethren were exceedingly pleased with the candidacy of Brother Romney. Even when the media started nosing around in our sacred ceremonies, we weighed the pros and cons and decided that on the whole, Mit’s candidacy was a big plus for us. He was a fine figure of a man and a fine exemplar of the gospel.

Smoot: This was not an all-of-a-sudden flip-flop on our part. Many of the Brethren were not happy with those TV commercials when Brother Romney ran for governor in Massachusetts—you know, the ones on the beach where he appeared without his shirt. Then, of course, there was great consternation among the Brethren when that unfortunate story came out about Brother Romney strapping his Irish setter, poor Seamus, on top of the family car for that 12-hour trip across the windy plains of Canada.

Smoot: You have no idea, Brother End. From the beginning of the church, our canine companions have played a central part. The Prophet Joseph Smith was actually taking his dog—a golden retriever named Nephi, coincidentally—for a walk when God and Jesus got his attention in a pillar of light. And Brigham Young is said to have had at least 27 schnauzers living with him in the Beehive House. For Pioneer Days, he used to dress them up in the cutest little bonnets.

DE: We can well understand the consternation of the Brethren when they read about Seamus getting sick in the rushing wind.

Smoot: Brother Romney was summoned to a Bishop’s Court and would have been excommunicated had it not been for the testimony of the ever-loyal Seamus.

Smoot: That’s why among all of God’s critters, dogs go straight to the Celestial Kingdom, as revealed in section 129 of the Doctrine & Covenants. Anyway, Brother Romney was in our good graces until the flip-flopping got out of hand. He was, as Brother Huntsman so aptly put it, behaving like a well-lubricated weather vane.

DE: Mit is not here to defend himself, but in his defense, he says his unprincipled flip-floppery—on gay rights, on abortion, on gun rights, etc.—is simply a matter of adjusting to reality. When facts change, you have to change. When your audience changes, you change. Isn’t playing to the audience in keeping with the church’s own history of self-serving expediency? For instance, changing its doctrine on polygamy so Utah could become a state, and changing its doctrine on the fitness of African-American males for the priesthood so the Black Panthers wouldn’t storm Temple Square?

Smoot: You call it expediency, we call it revelation. In any event, we have instructed Brother Romney to cease and desist from calling himself a Mormon not from any sense of moral consistency on our part, but simply because of all the bad publicity he is bringing our way.

DE: How about Mit’s denial of knowingly employing illegal aliens to cut his lawn: “I can’t have illegal aliens working for me. I’m running for office, for Pete’s sake.” Isn’t that a perfect example of applying the doctrine of avoiding bad publicity? Isn’t that a fine example of Mormon expediency?

Smoot: When the Brethren speak, the thinking has been done. As far as the practice of flip-floppery goes, I call your attention to the 13th Article of Faith: “We believe in being honest, true, benevolent, chaste and avoiding flip-floppery, except when it is our advantage to do so.”

This must be all new to you it can be over whelming for ones frist time but these are anti Mormons and will not tell you the author of this post D.P. Sorensen is an exmormon.

and H. LeGrand Smoot is most likely a made up name...

not much can be found on him

they will reply that it is not fare to show the author motives but the intent is justified sounds like another group we are also plague.

will the Lord reveal who these people are in

Helaman 8

24 And now, seeing ye know these things and cannot deny them except ye shall lie, therefore in this ye have sinned, for ye have rejected all these things, notwithstanding so many evidences which ye have received; yea, even ye have received all things, both things in heaven, and all things which are in the earth, as a witness that they are true.

25 But behold, ye have rejected the truth, and rebelled against your holy God; and even at this time, instead of laying up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where nothing doth corrupt, and where nothing can come which is unclean, ye are heaping up for yourselves wrath against the day of judgment.

26 Yea, even at this time ye are ripening, because of your murders and your fornication and wickedness, for everlasting destruction; yea, and except ye repent it will come unto you soon.

Liars and deceivers are also another form of sin

A Book of Mormon Story

Wasn't that SWEET!

Now; how about some FACTS??

"Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."

---Joseph Knight's journal.

"In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
(History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.

(Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),

"Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.

"I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
---(David Whitmer,

as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,

and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.

In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:

"... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."

"Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
(Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"

reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881

in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)

In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:

"When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
(W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,

Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12

June 15, 1879, pp. 190-91.)

Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:

"The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"

("A New Witness for Christ in America,"

Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)

"The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."

---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.

"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.

Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'

August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."
"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."
"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)

1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."

We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.

Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.
The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."
(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).

When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."

When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)

Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

Wait'll that young man finds out that the BoM contains hardly ANY of the DOCTRINES that define MORMONism!

And that it does NOT contain the FULLNESS of the gospel as he has been led to believe!

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That young man is a Bishop and knows more than you ever will because he has been taught by the Spirit of the Lord.

You are just ticked off that you can not get your hands on sacred things BTW the Lord who knows all things knew such as these kinds of post would would occure mocking the Lord's plan for Happiness.

Therefore it is only reserved for those who have a sincere heart, with real intent

Moroni 10

4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.

5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.

6 And whatsoever thing is good is just and true; wherefore, nothing that is good denieth the Christ, but acknowledgeth that he is.

7 And ye may know that he is, by the power of the Holy Ghost; wherefore I would exhort you that ye deny not the power of God; for he worketh by power, according to the faith of the children of men, the same today and tomorrow, and forever.

8 And again, I exhort you, my brethren, that ye deny not the gifts of God, for they are many; and they come from the same God. And there are different ways that these gifts are administered; but it is the same God who worketh all in all; and they are given by the manifestations of the Spirit of God unto men, to profit them.

9 For behold, to one is given by the Spirit of God, that he may teach the word of wisdom;

10 And to another, that he may teach the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

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1 Nephi 2:17