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Rick Perry: On the Rebound and Ready to Put America Back to Work (and secure the Mexican border)
Fox News ^ | November 10, 2011 | Greta VanSusteren - On the Record

Posted on 11/11/2011 3:19:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

PERRY: Yes. You know, I said something at the Orlando debate that was arrogant. May have been because I thought I knew it all because I'd been the governor. As a matter of fact, my wife said, What you said was insulting.

.......And one thing I will promise the American people and -- is that within 12 months, within 12 months of my inaugural, that border will be secure and it will be shut down because we'll put the strategic fencing in place. We'll put the boots on the ground. We'll put the aviation assets in place. And that border will be shut down and secure within 12 months.

.........And to have a conversation about any of these issues until that border is secure is nothing more than an intellectual discussion. I'm not going to engage in those. I'm going to stay focused on the most important things the president of the United States is going to do, dealing with that border, is to secure it.

I know how to do it. I've been dealing with this for 10 years.....

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you do it simultaneously with developing some sort of immigration policy, whatever that may be, for the people who are here illegally in the United States, or do you this in one step, first secure the border, then we'll figure out what to do with that, or do you do it simultaneously?

PERRY: You do the border first. If you do not first secure the border, you're wasting your time. And that is my commitment to the American people. Within 12 months, that border will be shut down, the illegal activities will be stopped, and that border will be secure.....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bestchoicefor2012; border; economy; jobs; larazarick; openborders; perry2012; perryastroturfing; rino; secureborders
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1 posted on 11/11/2011 3:19:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; shield

Governor Perry is the only candidate running who WILL secure the border.


2 posted on 11/11/2011 3:21:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Governor Perry is the only candidate running who WILL secure the border.

With in-state tuition vouchers.

3 posted on 11/11/2011 3:24:45 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If you don’t secure the border first, you are not only wasting your time, you are making the problem exponentially worse. To Perry campaign team: Call rewrite.

Thanks for all the posts, CW. The patron saint of hopeless causes has been invoked and seems to be listening.


4 posted on 11/11/2011 3:27:56 AM PST by firebrand (It's almost too late.)
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To: Yo-Yo
Have you heard him talk about his friend Jan Brewer and the Arizona law? Perry was livid that the federal government thinks it has a right to tell a "sovereign state" (his words) how they should deal with a problem the Feds wont take care of and Texas is one of 8 states to join in legal defense of Arizona against the US Government.

Why are there only 8 states involved in this.

You see it's one thing to pander and tell people what they want to hear and another to back it up.

5 posted on 11/11/2011 3:30:27 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And he remembers all that, right?


6 posted on 11/11/2011 3:33:13 AM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine)
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To: Yo-Yo

Exactly. He will ensure they are over here voting for the commies.


7 posted on 11/11/2011 3:35:39 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

WRONG. NONE of them will.


9 posted on 11/11/2011 3:39:30 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t think Perry really wants the job... I think Anita does.

If only he could debate. Yes, it’s important.


10 posted on 11/11/2011 3:41:09 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: firebrand

In their attempts to make points by hitting on Gov. Perry, the other candidates have alienated the block of legal voters with Hispanic ties (many descendants from Hispanics who fought for Texas independence and others who have been Americans for decades) needed for a 2012 victory up and down the ballot. They’ve already compromised our chances of beating Obama. In the end (if there is a nominee other than Perry) when the general election votes are counted and the electoral college numbers are tallied, their gaffes on that will be much greater than Gov. Perry’s gaffe in the Michigan debate.


11 posted on 11/11/2011 3:43:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Anybody out there believe Ricccardo on this??

Me neither.


12 posted on 11/11/2011 3:47:23 AM PST by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters. Let the dead rest in peace.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I liked his first debate answer...that a fence was absurd, and that he would “put the aviation assets on the ground”. Now he claims he supports a fence (yeah right), and at least he realizes that aviation assets are more effective in the air. Progress! Too bad he would melt like the Wicked Witch in any debate with Obama. But it was fun while it lasted, PerryBots! He was certainly entertaining. Now back to the Three Stooges on AMC.


13 posted on 11/11/2011 3:50:05 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Gov. Rick Perry has always supported strategic fencing in urban areas, always.


14 posted on 11/11/2011 3:56:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: normy

And Texas along with other states supported Arizona and Brewer with an amicus brief.


15 posted on 11/11/2011 3:58:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Reagan69
You are incorrect. Perry WILL seal the border.

I'm sure that Obama didn't say these things to La Raza:

Gov Rick Perry spoke to LaRaza about the drug cartels, shared responsibility of border security and that it is Washington's responsibility to secure the border -- that the Federal government should support the military, deliver the mail and secure the border -- and they aren't doing their job. [HE RECEIVED a lot of applause] He spoke of the money Texas spends securing the border, that it must be sealed and then we can sustain legitimate commerce...He told about protecting the sanctity of the vote and strengthening our shared values, family, faith, hard work -- they are TEXAS values and we should unite as citizen's of one Nation under God and concentrate on what unites us. He told his Cuervo joke and they found it funny unlike the Liberal Latino Leaders Give Perry Lukewarm Response (or more likely they'd heard it before)

16 posted on 11/11/2011 3:59:03 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He’s doing the right thing here.


17 posted on 11/11/2011 3:59:14 AM PST by lahargis
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To: lahargis
Yes he is. And people know where Perry stands - for a secure border and no amnesty. No flipping like Romney.

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That's -- I'm running for office, for Pete's sake, I can't have illegals. [video clip] -- Mitt Romney, GOP presidential debate - October 18, 2011 - Las Vegas, NV

18 posted on 11/11/2011 4:01:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Good point. If Rick does not make that point by the hour,
then there is only one other outcome:


19 posted on 11/11/2011 4:05:33 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Too late Jose. We know you are pandering only. You made your priorities clear in the first debates.

You oppose fence and e-verify and want to sponsor college for illegals. Then you call us racist and heartless not agreeing with you.

Border can be secured, but only with fence, and removing incentives like tuition discounts and easy ability to work.


20 posted on 11/11/2011 4:07:29 AM PST by heiss (heartless)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I take Perry at his word on this, though I believe that 12 months is a long time. It seems like with the aviation assets he talks about, that a major change could be effected in a month or less.

But ok, he’s talking about the time to build a fence, 12 months is reasonable.

And I do take him at his word on this. The anti-Perry fanatics completely misrepresent Perry on this issue, in my opinion. How many of them have ever been governor of a border state? Answer: zero.

The problem is, however, Perry will not be president.

Perry can’t win the Republican nomination.

Perry can’t win the general election (even if by some miracle he became the nominee).

He can’t debate; he can’t win. Period.

After he loses Iowa, NH and SC, I’m going to start posting in FR that it’s time for Perry to drop out.

I already believe it’s time for Santorum and Huntsman to drop out.


21 posted on 11/11/2011 4:10:32 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Flintlock
Then how do you explain the efforts of this governor to secure the border with Texas tax dollars to the tune of 100 million dollars?

I don't understand why people don't research a candidate like Cain who has gone from electric fences to Perry's border security plan almost word for word (Face the Nation)yet Cain has no record to back that up and changed his position over a months time when pressure hit.

Rick Perry has actually spent our tax dollars to secure the US border yet you think he wont do it as President? That doesn't make sense. He's the only one who has even tried of those running.

22 posted on 11/11/2011 4:25:18 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Greta said one more time “you know” during her convoluted question I was gonna scream.
Perry’s correct that the border needs to be shut down before anything else can happen, but that doesn’t preclude one from having a followup plan. His unwillingness to state what that is makes me suspicious.


23 posted on 11/11/2011 4:35:51 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gov. Rick Perry has always supported strategic fencing in urban areas, always.

Useless position. The SoCal and Yuma sector fences have greater than 70% coverage, but far less than 10% in "urban" areas, and they are primarily responsible for the complete diversion of cartel and human smuggler traffic to Eastern Arizona and Texas. In other words...it WORKS. Why does Perry oppose it?

24 posted on 11/11/2011 4:36:42 AM PST by montag813
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To: Yo-Yo

Yes, with in-state tuition vouchers for Texas citizens. You DO realize that they have to had applied for citizenship FIRST, do you NOT? Or do you just listen to 30 second sound bites from liberal reporters?


25 posted on 11/11/2011 4:37:43 AM PST by RowdyFFC
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To: Diogenesis

Our hearts go out to you guys when you get Romney, another democrat.


27 posted on 11/11/2011 4:39:24 AM PST by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC
Yes, with in-state tuition vouchers for Texas citizens. You DO realize that they have to had applied for citizenship FIRST, do you NOT? Or do you just listen to 30 second sound bites from liberal reporters?

That is not true. They have to PROMISE to "pursue" citizenship. And the Houston Chronicle reported that Texas has not checked on even a SINGLE illegal to see if they have!

28 posted on 11/11/2011 4:40:33 AM PST by montag813
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To: Flintlock

I do. He just put three of my returning vet nephews on that border as Game Wardens. He’s putting every available boot on the ground he can find down there.

Shame the blind in this country are allowed to vote.


29 posted on 11/11/2011 4:42:03 AM PST by RowdyFFC
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Uh huh... sure he will... that is if he can remember to secure the border... maybe he can tie a string around his finger... if he can remember which string means what promise.

LLS

30 posted on 11/11/2011 4:43:30 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: montag813

Oh balogna. They can’t even start the process until they have temporary resident status approved on their citizenship application.

If The University of Houston is taking them and their money anyway, they are not following the law.


31 posted on 11/11/2011 4:44:33 AM PST by RowdyFFC
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To: montag813
Now he claims he supports a fence

Only in strategic places where it would work..like he always has.

32 posted on 11/11/2011 4:50:08 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Yo-Yo
With in-state tuition vouchers.

...and millions of taxpayer funded tuition assistance freebies to hand out. La Raza Rick's a generous man to foreign lawbreakers with our money.

33 posted on 11/11/2011 4:54:12 AM PST by TADSLOS (Rick Perry and Cronyism = Campaign Money Mother Lode)
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To: RowdyFFC
Or do you just listen to 30 second sound bites from liberal reporters?

I listen to his debates.

Perry anxious to change subject to taxes, immigration, EU debt crisis

Perry also apologized once again for comments he made during a debate in September when he termed critics of a Texas law that provides in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants "heartless." Not only did Perry call his own comments "arrogant," he also said his wife, Anita, called them "insulting."

"I want to tell the people of America that I do respect their opinions on the subject of illegal immigrants and the college tuition," Perry said. The subject of immigration plagued him in the first months of his presidential campaign, but has been less of an issue since his standing plummeted in the polls.


34 posted on 11/11/2011 4:55:47 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
PERRY: You do the border first.

Lol, just a regurgitation of the position concocted by Juan McCain after his real position on immigration and the border had sunk his Republican presidential primary hopes.

The last thing we need at this point is another pandering, border state politician in the White House.

35 posted on 11/11/2011 4:58:57 AM PST by Will88
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To: montag813

Oh REALLY? If it works so damned good, then why is ARIZONA complaining so damned much about their illegal alien problem?

The Texas border is 1200 miles. (The whole US border is not but 2900 miles.) It takes one day to build one mile of just four strand barbed wire fence. And that’s humping from dawn till dusk. It would take a minimum of four years to build a fancy DOUBLE fence with the technology to monitor it and a paved road down the middle of it, not to mention $BILLIONS of dollars. And then what’s to stop somebody from cutting through it, over it, or under it, in a 150 miles of wilderness between towns? Coyotes? Horned toads? A line of piss ants?

You OBVIOUSLY have never been to the Texas border or even looked at a freaking map. The Texas border is almost completely mountains, canyons, river bottom, and vast amounts of just NOTHING!

And the people crossing it today are not just your average happy migrant worker coming for a job. It’s gang criminals, narco and muslim terrorists. Are you naive enough to think they’re going to let a fence in the middle of the wilderness stop them?

Arizona’s border is 300 miles long. Why the hell can’t they get a grip on their border? Incompetence?


36 posted on 11/11/2011 5:09:58 AM PST by RowdyFFC
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To: Yo-Yo

Yeah, well once again, it is a shame that blind are able to vote.


37 posted on 11/11/2011 5:11:24 AM PST by RowdyFFC
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
VAN SUSTEREN: Would you -- if you were head the Justice Department as president of the United States, would you shut down the lawsuit the Justice Department has now with the state of Arizona, or do you agree the state of Arizona's law is one that should not be enforced as unconstitutional and discriminates against people?

PERRY: Texas has joined as an amicus with them in that brief. So I support states' rights. You know, the sad part about it is that we're having to come with immigration policy because of the failure of the federal government to secure our border. That's the real issue here.

And to have a conversation about any of these issues until that border is secure is nothing more than an intellectual discussion. I'm not going to engage in those. I'm going to stay focused on the most important things the president of the United States is going to do, dealing with that border, is to secure it.

I know how to do it. I've been dealing with this for 10 years. And you put the strategic fencing in place and the boots on the ground and the aviation assets in the air, and to the numbers that -- you can shut that border down and secure it.

Is that supposed to be a 'Yes'? Why not just say, 'Yes?' Weasel answer. When asked about what to do with the folks already here his response was that you seal the border first. Again, weasel answer.

38 posted on 11/11/2011 5:17:45 AM PST by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So why does Rick Perry want to do away with the National Weather Service? Has he said?


39 posted on 11/11/2011 5:22:28 AM PST by SoJoCo
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To: heiss

“Only” with a fence?


40 posted on 11/11/2011 5:28:43 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: samtheman

Even if, heaven forbid, Governor Perry loses his very first election, at least he’s taught Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain how to talk about securing the border. They are now using Perry’s plan in their points.


41 posted on 11/11/2011 5:31:27 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Does he remember which border is the one with the problem?


42 posted on 11/11/2011 5:33:29 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: montag813

The Rio Grande serves to slow invaders at least as much as the fence in Arizona - where there is no river (Herman Cain’s “moat”).


43 posted on 11/11/2011 5:33:58 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: Reagan69

i’m not one for debates- the end results are you get unqualified morons like obama voted in...that said perry’s done- a huge disappointment in my eyes...


44 posted on 11/11/2011 5:38:57 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Will88
Will, you do know that Perry's border security plan is tougher and more detailed than Cain,Newt and Mitt's right?

Perry is the only candidate running who has actually used state taxpayers money to secure the US international border with Mexico.

Why do you not even require a detailed border security plan from the other candidates?

They all have the same plan! Perry has the understanding and the will to implement it because he has seen the effects first hand.

Once the border is secure let's have Congress pass whatever they want but Perry is right, you have to secure the border.

i personally know of two guys who were illegal, deported and were back within a week or so. I saw one driving a delivery truck stopped at a light. He waved to me and told me he was back.

What most people see as illegals in other states more like what a hispanic buddy of mine calls "Mexicoans". I know a guy who was once hired by my buddy, he had all the paperwork and my friend didn't find out till later when the guy was deported for shooting deer on someone elses property. The illegal has kids born in Texas (and therefore citizens I guess) and the hospital named them. His son's name is Josh. He speaks fluent English, works hard, goes to school.

I'm not trying to appeal to your emotions I am trying to get you too see what we're up against here.

So you have an illegal who can get back in whenever he wants, his son is a citizen named Josh, named by the hospital who lives with his dad and goes to school and works here.

It's crazy what has happened since the 80's.

You have to secure the border from illegals riding in on a couple pounds of pot or packed into a truck.

Once that is done a plan can be passed by Congress to deal with them and force whomever is President to sign it.

The guys hanging around the 7-11 will be back in days and if you want e-verify understand this that that will include you too. I don't like this "we have a problem so let's put all American citizens under the same burden as non citizens"

If E-Verify could be used where you and I don't have to mess with it great, otherwise it's just another tool of government to track you.

45 posted on 11/11/2011 5:45:43 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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46 posted on 11/11/2011 5:46:44 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: tnlibertarian
My biggest problem with the criticism of Perry on his border stance is it's not hurled at any other candidate. There is not one candidate running who will do what you want them to do. Open your eyes.

You do know Herman Cain on Face the Nation already pretty much nixed the electric fence and is pretty much touting Perry's plan as his own, almost word for word.

Once you see their all the same yo have to ask "who has even put forth the most effort to seal our border?" and than man is Rick Perry, with money, guard, LEO's and pressure on the Federal government.

You have to look at the entire field on this not just smash Perry. I am sure Cain, Mitt and Newt are sitting back laughing at not having to face the same scrutiny as Perry on border security.

47 posted on 11/11/2011 5:50:50 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: hocndoc

The usual hecklers show up spewing their vile hate and misinformation. But look at it this way. At least now, most of the electorate expects Perry to do poorly in a debate. So out of curiosity, perhaps like those who flock around vehicle accidents, they tune in to interviews like FOX, Letterman and Gretta. Then, they find that Perry is very good at speaking and presenting his thoughts.

They are also finding out that his ideas are not as bad as all the rhetoric they have been hearing second hand has claimed. It also shows most good people who vote, that Perry is not only in touch with his humanity, he is very honest about it.

This could still play into Perry’s favor before it is all over. Time will tell.


48 posted on 11/11/2011 5:51:37 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: normy
Why do you not even require a detailed border security plan from the other candidates?

The most important part of any southern border security plan is double fencing in all areas of the border where illegals are known to cross. Perry rejects that and his notion that the border will ever be secured by "boots on the ground" and aerial surveillance is nonsense. No president will ever put enough personnel on the border - 24/7/365 - because that is the most expensive method of all.

And W already wasted a billion dollars on the idiotic "virtual fence" that was abandoned as a failure a year or two ago. He did that as a ruse to avoid complying with the Secure Fence Act which required 700 miles of double fencing (until Kay Bailey gutted that requirement). See what we get from border state politicians.

Sorry, this "secure the border first" babble is nothing but a second-hand ruse from one more politician who has no intention of enforcing immigration law And, as I said before, this is and hand-me-down from Juan McCain's 2008 and 2010 campaigns. That should really give folks confidence, Lol.

Why won't Perry give us a detailed plan of what he plans for the fifteen or more million illegals already in the US? Oh, yeah, he wants to give them all a work permit, amnesty by any other name.

49 posted on 11/11/2011 6:00:54 AM PST by Will88
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To: heiss
Border can be secured, but only with fence, and removing incentives like tuition discounts and easy ability to work.

I strongly disagree, and Perry is in good company asserting that a "Fence Only" solution is doomed to failure. It sounds like a simple fix but it just won't work; there is no way to effectively and secure the entire border with a manned, static fence. Such an enormous expenditure to build a viable fence along the entire border would be a monumental waste, only to be defeated by cheap ladders where no one is present to watch and respond to intruders.

Governor Perry, like most other border state leaders with first-hand experience with the problem, favors "strategic fencing" with elaborate barriers in populated, high-threat areas. But in unpopulated wilderness areas with little illegal activity, active and mobile deterrence is the only viable means of securing that vast and desolate remainder of the border. Aided by technology -- included ground sensors and both manned and unmanned aviation -- mobile forces can be brought to bear where needed to block infiltration or other illegal activity.

A simple fence is not the solution. The only viable to solution is a federal administration that WANTS to seal the border. That is what has been missing.

50 posted on 11/11/2011 6:04:35 AM PST by Always A Marine
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