Posted on 11/12/2011 1:07:35 PM PST by KantianBurke
A last-ditch drive ends in disappointment for Penn State, which loses to Nebraska, 17-14. Not having any timeouts crippled the offense, which completed two passes short of a first down, including one with seconds left, but couldn't stop the clock.
This is a different Saturday in State College. Immediately after McGloin's final pass fell incomplete, the Penn State crowd cheered the team's effort: the cheering grew to a roar as the two teams again met a midfield, such as they did right before the game.
Again, as occurred several times during the game, there were chants of "We love JoePa." Interviewed after the game, interim coach Tom Bradley said that what Penn State has gone through over the last week is "unprecedented in the history of college sports."
(Excerpt) Read more at thequad.blogs.nytimes.com ...
I agree that it appears that, in a moral sense, that's the case. What remains to be seen is what additional facts come out to mitigate or exacerbate those actions, good or bad.
And yet, as evidenced by the title of this thread, Penn Staters were chanting that they love him to say nothing of engaging in a full blown RIOT after he was fired!
The fact that you're unable to distinguish between their anger over how the administration and BoT handled the firing v actual support of Paterno is surprising. This appears to be a straightforward exercise in logic, but perhaps I'm expecting too much of other posters. So I'll try it one more time: the seemingly pro-Paterno chants are in reality criticism of the BoT and administration. In a sense, their actions foolishly made him into a martyr.
You people are coo coo for coco puffs.
You know, I can remember seeing your posts for many years, and always found you to be fairly logical and on point. Your tone and (il)logic here come as a real surprise.
Sure it was. They did what they could given the forum they had. But something tells me no possible actions taken would have satisfied the posters on this thread. In the end they would have found fault no matter what the crowd did.
A real “gesture” would have been Penn State canceling the game...sure they would have lost a lot of money....but it would have been more convincing.
*shrug* I could argue both sides of that, but that's the decision of a few people and not those who attended the game.
Unfair to the players...yes....but any injustice done to them pales in comparison to the injustice done to those boys.
A few questions: Would cancelling the game somehow change the victims' situation? At what point does the injustice done to the players no longer pale in comparison, and thus allow for games to resume? Who decides that? For that matter, does anyone know for a fact that the victims' group was (or was not) consulted about the appropriate course of action and asked that the game be played (their lawyer recently stated that his clients did not support the firing of Paterno in the manner it occurred)?
Believe whatever you want, but I'm telling you that after many conversations, what I'm telling you is fact.
“...when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed.
-Atlas Shrugged”
You might want to remove this quote from your profile page, lest you appear to be a hypocrite.
I don’t see any relationship between that quote and my Post #501. Feel free to enlighten me.
No. It’s not fact. You’re all are blinded by adulation for that disgusting crypt keeper. Those who have never wrapped our identities up with the college we attended can see clearly - PSU fans obviously can’t.
To lay everything out: he protected a rapist and thereby allowed other CHILD rapes to take place. For YEARS! He failed as a leader and as a coach. He is a disgrace and could quite possibly find himself behind bars in the near future. Why the hell anyone would get upset about his firing is nutso and needs to get a hobby!
But that's what manifested itself yesterday; I know this for a fact because I was there and got the viewpoint of many fellow attendees.
“despise others for what they did to Paterno”
ROTFLMAO! Yeah. Poor old Joe. Sorry if most of us on planet earth don’t shed any tears for the way the degenerate old coot was terminated. To be honest, the scumbag got off light with a mean widdle phone call. A perp walk would have been more appropriate. Once again, you PSU fans need to get a perspective more befitting to this solar system.
And how can you defend this?
At Penn State’s stadium, profanity, scorn greet one father’s protest
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/12/penn-state-stadium-profanity-scorn-joe-paterno/
Ohio U, not the state of Ohio.
Well, it was deleted so I can’t review what I didn’t like about your comment.
I’m not wasting my time responding to you.
Yep, people just keep making things up.
And let me add, the people yelling were not screaming “P-S-U.”
About five or ten people tried getting “We Are” chants going, but were either shushed or told to shut up.
Now that said, there are probably 25-30K people who enter the stadium from that side, and according to the article dozens made negative comments. They reflect poorly on Penn State, but are they an accurate representation?
Well, the key words were contained in my post to you, and that’s what I called the entire supportive chanting crowd.
Of course I may be just a little biased in my utter contempt of the trend which barely punishes child rapists, and my having virtually no enthusiasm for freaking football.
Well that's who I thought you were referring to, but I did not want to comment without being sure.
The problem with your post is that it is a flat-out vicious lie. That's all.
Even though the Attorney General disagrees.
See, this is a perfect example of the problem I have with posters like yourself. Paterno failed morally, and has even admitted it. He's been fired, disgraced, and he (or his estate) will be made to pay civilly. Few Penn Staters disagree with that set of facts, and in fact they endorse the notion that it should be that way.
You could make these legitimate points based on the facts, yet you just can't refrain from inserting untruths and bombastic comments into your postings as I just highlighted.
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