Posted on 11/12/2011 6:26:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Cain did very poorly tonight , confirming what we already knew that his weak point is foreign policy . Looked and sounded unsure of himself . Looks like Newt will become the new “ color of the week “ . Unfortunately , he can’t beat Obama - heck , maybe nobody can . Just think about all those dead people and illegals voting THIS time .
So would I.
In a minute.
I beg to differ.
Anyone who has nuke could deliver it to America.
Just put it on a boat and sail into any of America’s harbors and set it off.
Ballistic missiles are not the only carriers for Nuclear weapons.
The target they most want to nuke is Israel. The most effective way to do that is with a missile.
We could co exist with the Sovs cause we had MAD. How do we do MAD with the leaders of a suicidal death cult?
By doing everything we can to make sure IF they do try to suicide, their attempt effects only them
Well that makes an opinion of one who thinks this. All the press thinks differently.
But then your mind was made up before the very 1st word was spoken now wasn’t it.
What is the most pressing foreign policy issue of our day?
Iran’s attempt to get nukes and missiles to delver them.
So what do we do? Invade a 4th country? Ignore it? Start a covert war with Iran? Help the Gulf Arabs and the Israelis get nukes also?
OR Do we make forceful clear statement, as Cain would, that any attack on Israel will be viewed as an attack on the USA.
Then we do back up that statement, as Cain says, an build up our system of naval warships (i.e the Aegis ships Cain is talking about) that have the ability to knock down any Iranian missiles in flight thus giving our side an ability to neutralize the Iranian threat and protect our regional interests, without starting yet another war or adding to the destabilizing the region.
Cain is the only one who looked at the real problem with Iran and said “here are the solutions”
And we have spent the last 10 years specifically building up our defenses against that "nuke in a boat" threat. How about we start at least looking at some other possible delivery systems?
If we’d just drill our own damned oil we wouldn’t have any reason to give a crap about what goes on in the Persian Gulf.
Gingrich might be willing to go to war with Iran, if the situation were bad enough.
But there is no way, no how that Romney would go to war with anybody. You need to have a set of gonads to do that.
Or fly it within the confines of a jet liner.
I’m sure some country would be glad to act as an agent of Itan.
South Carolina is more of a threat to the US than Iran.
Do you really think they want to be instantly vaporized if they attacked the United States...or Israel for that matter. I think it’s been something like 1,500 years since Iran attacked any country. Even in the Iraq/Iran War it was Iraq who attacked them first. Iran is the just the latest boogie man in the Middle East. Got to keep the money flowing in for the defense contractors and bankers that are making a fortune off attacking Middle East countries. We need to get out of the Middle East and the sooner the better. “War is a Racket” ~ Gen Smedley Butler
My lifelong lesson is...tackle the most important issues first.
IMHO Pakistani nukes are much more dangerous for 2 reasons...1) it is much more unstable than Iran 2) they have 100 times more WORKING nukes already.
I think I see the winning ticket ROMNEY~GINGRICH those two together will slaughter Obama and Biden in a debate.... humiliate.
And all I thought when Romney spoke was ... I wonder what he’ll say tomorrow.
What a scum.
This whole discussion is a red herring.
In 2009 the Taliban was within 60 miles of Islamabad and ready to take down Pakistans government and grab the nukes.
The MUZZIE in Chief sent that evil degenerate bitch Clinton over there to tell Musharaff to man up for appearance sake, but the Taliban is biding their time. waiting for their brother in the WH to pull US forces out of Iraq.
Then they swoop in and grab the Pak nukes.
Iran is just trying to play catch up.
Nobody is going to war over muzzies with nukes, they already have them and they will be in Taliban hands within 3 years, and there's not a godammned thing anybody can do about it, especially those phony SOB's on the debate stage.
Ummmmm . . . . . it makes good rhetoric but, by the time the next POTUS is sworn in, Iran may have already created mushroom clouds in Israel.
I have a much cheaper and more efficent idea. Let Israel handle Iran. That would also have too mean the U.S. State Department would have to stop trying to control Israels moves and foreign as well as Israels defensive policy. Something the radicals in the state department have been against for decades now.. Israel could take Iran out in short order.
Taliban creating ‘safe haven’ in heart of Pakistan
A peace deal between Taliban militants and the Pakistani government could create a safe haven for al-Qaeda to plan attacks on British and American forces in Afghanistan, Western officials said on Thursday.
Taliban supporters march in Swat Valley, Pakistan Photo: AP
By Dean Nelson and Saeed Shah in Islamabad
6:54PM BST 23 Apr 2009
They voiced their fears after Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, told the Pakistani government that it had “no choice” but to challenge Taliban militants pushing closer to the capital Islamabad.
Her comments intensified pressure on the Pakistani government just 24 hours after she accused Islamabad of “abdicating to the Taliban” and said the situation there “poses a mortal threat to the security and safety of our country and the world”.
Washington and Islamabad are at loggerheads over the Pakistani government’s “peace deal” with Taliban militants in the Swat Valley, where it has agreed to introduce Sharia law in return for the Taliban ending its insurgency there. Its ministers insist they are still in control and that they need to bring “reconcilable Taliban” into the political process.
One Western diplomat said a safe haven in the Swat Valley, just 60 miles from Islamabad, would be potentially more dangerous than those in the tribal areas close to the Afghan border because it has better communications and infrastructure. “There’s a doomsday scenario where the real concern is that they establish a foothold in this part of northern Pakistan to launch attacks on Afghanistan, India and the West,” he said.
A spokesman for the Taliban in Swat said earlier this week that Osama bin Laden and other leading Taliban figures would be welcomed in Swat as “brothers”, as would militants fighting British and American forces in Afghanistan.
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Pakistan moves to halt advance of Taliban just 60 miles from capital
23 Apr 2009
According to Western diplomats in Islamabad, the Pakistani government has effectively ceded complete control of Swat and neighbouring Buner, where, they claim, the district administration, local police force and courts no longer function.
Pakistani officials deny the charge, but yesterday sent eight platoons of paramilitary troops to shore up its rule in the district. Local politicians said the area was already in the Taliban’s grip, while Amnesty International made a strongly worded attack on the Pakistani government over its failure to protect local people.
“The Pakistani government is fiddling as the North West Frontier Province burns,” said Sam Zarifi, its Asia-Pacific director.
He said just 500 militants were terrorising 650,000 people and had banned music, ordered men to grow beards and forced all girls over the age of seven to wear burkas. They had also looted houses and stolen cars belonging to local aid groups.
“The government has not given any sense of how it intends to protect the rights of hundreds of thousands of Pakistanis who are now subject to the repressive rule of the Taliban, just in the shadow of the capital,” he added.
Residents of Buner, which has a population of 500,000, said that the area was no longer in government control and many people had fled.
“The situation is terrible,” said Istiqbal Khan, the local member of parliament, who said he could not go to his constituency.
“They have overrun Buner. But if the army is deployed, I fear a conflict will begin. We must negotiate with the Taliban.”
Armed Taliban fighters are patrolling Buner, forcing police and the local administration to leave or remain inside their buildings. Courts and government offices have closed.
An anti-Taliban militia, which had been raised by the people of Buner and had managed to keep the extremists at bay for months, was dissolved after failing to get government backing, locals complained. The militia leaders recently fled for their lives.
“They have taken over my home and ransacked it. Other homes too,” said a local councillor from Buner, who escaped to Peshawar.
“The police are nowhere to be seen. People don’t dare come out of their homes. The whole of Buner is in their (Taliban) grip.
“I appeal to the government to do whatever is required to restore its writ.”
It doesn't take an ICBM or a submarine any more.
So will either of these guys go to war against Mexico, an enemy nation that is trying - succeeding - to invade and colonize the United States?
You are correct about it being an act of war, but retaliation in kind is totally unnecessary and probably more trouble than it is worth. A simple bounty on illegals, with heavy penalties for false arrest, would have them leaving in droves. We should then air drop weapons so that the Mexican people can keep the government very busy.
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