Iowa conservative group Family Leader won’t endorse Cain, Paul or Romney

WP ^ | Posted at 11:43 AM ET, 11/22/2011 | By Perry Bacon Jr.

[TalonDJ]

Wow, with language like that you CERTAINLy convinced me that they are an upstanding Christian organization. /sarc

Then again anyone that even considers endorsing Newt need to reconsider calling themselves 'Christian'.

[org.whodat]

Newt was in office how many years, could you give me a list of his so called pro life bills he attached to legislation. The number is zero, but he was big on the lip service end.

[magritte]

So you agree with org.dotdumass that this group is a bunch of crackers and reminds him of Jonestown?

[tnlibertarian]

You have been informed in other posts that your video selectively edits the interview to make it appear he says that about abortion when he does not. Why do you insist on promoting this distortion?

[jpsb]

This is a thread on the Family Leader quickly ruling out Cain. My take is Cain making pro abortion like noises in an interview on CNN. I submitted my evidence to support that supposition, ONLY after reading nothing but smear Newt posts up until then.

[org.whodat]

Wrong, knot head the post was, your comments were the same as jones town.

[org.whodat]

Are you going to answer #45???

[jpsb]

The video does not selectively edit out anything. The only selective editing going on here is in your brain.

[MNJohnnie]

Shame on you. Really sad to see you fall for the Cult of Personality being manufactured about Newt.

That you have fallen so far from intellectual rationality that you would be willing to knowingly lie about Cain in the vain hope it would help Newt is sad.

[jpsb]

There is a link and there is a google to a vid, hardly lying. But spin away spinmyster you are only fooling yourself and other koolaid drinkers.

I wonder why this family group ruled out Cain so quickly? Hmmmm, I think that is what this thread is about.

[Prokopton]

Very clever, just google Cain Abortion CNN and watch the video, I am not going to post CNNs’ John King here.

Well, you were given the benefit of the doubt that you were just ignorant and not a liar. You failed. You are a despicable liar.

[Apollo5600]

I don’t really understand it. Newt isn’t even very conservative. Sure, he’s been bashing the media lately, but go back 10 years or further and what you see is an Establishment type Pub with serious moral flaws. And no, I’m not talking about his marital problems. Tons of people get divorced. Tons of people “come to God” later on. I’m talking about his stances on the environment, his agreement with leftist manufactured problems (such as fossil fuels being baaad) and his solution to these make-believe problems. And then we’re expected to believe that somehow he’s had a “come to Jesus” moment in time for this election cycle, and somehow everything he wrote in his books, things he’s said to the media, his condemnation of “right wing” extremism, his rebuke of the tea party for trying to “purge” people, and people he’s sat down with, doesn’t count anymore? C’mon. Why vote Newt when you can even just go back to Perry or Santorum or Bachman or someone like that? It’s completely illogical. It’s almost as if people are making their decisions based on soundbytes and not the actual substance of an issue.

I’m for Cain all the way. And not just because he’s black or sounds good, but because I see tremendous potential in the 999 plan to change the culture of this country, and also I favor the Fair tax which the 999 plan is phase 1 of a two part plan to achieve.

[jpsb]

Yeah who am I going to believe Prokopton or my lying eyes? I have no doubt that Cain has reversed himself by now. He seems to reverse himself all the time or claim "gotta ya question" or "out of context".

To everyone that's call me a liar, why was Cain dropped so fast by this Family Group? Hint "life" was specifically mentioned as a reason, dud. But hey enjoy your hate fest.

[jpsb]

They probably keep Newt in the running because he is doing well in the polls and (as far as I know) been fairly consistent on pro-life issues and pro-family issues as well. Certainly Backmann and Santurom are.

[CharlesWayneCT]

You need to either stop lying or get with the program

Remember that. You can either STOP LYING, or you can get with the Cain Train Program. Either way. One of the other. Either stop lying, or join the Cain folks.

:-)

[CharlesWayneCT]

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. It’s not the excuse Cain gave for his answer, but apparently Cain’s excuse wasn’t good enough for you, so you had to make up your own.

[07Jack]

I think some folks simply fear Cain's bold and radical solutions and prefer the warm and cozy feeling of a professional politician who won't rock the boat too much. They try to justify their fear by making ridiculous assertions such as: Cain is pro-life or bad on family values. I understand why folks may question his readiness, but to use his positions on life and family values as a disqualifier is a telling stretch.

[BenKenobi]

If you watched the video, Cain was discussing the issue of rape, as to whether a woman raped should have to raise a child or to give it up for adoption So yes, in this case, the statement is a lie. Cain is prolife.

[Angry_White_Man_Syndrome]

Well, Cain is the only candidate that has pulled a company back from bankruptcy. While I like Newt, he has a lot of personal issues that can be used against him. Also, he has reversed himself on global warming after sitting on the couch with Nancy.

Cain is my first pick, Newt is second. A Cain/ Newt ticket is a home run.